Cryptome Log Subpoenaed

PaulBu writes "Stopped by on Cryptome tonight... It seems that their logs have been subpoenaed by Massachusetts Assistant Attorney General Chief, Corruption, Fruad (sic) & Computer Crime Division. Cryptome's answer was that "logs of Cryptome are deleted daily, or more often during heavy traffic, to protect the privacy of visitors to the site." (Good job!) See here"

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"or more often during heavy traffic"

[Qzukk]

Looks like they're going to be doing a lot of deleting now ;)

Re:"or more often during heavy traffic"

[gazbo]

No, they have to backspace through all of the server logs one character at a time.

Re:"or more often during heavy traffic"

[ReelOddeeo]

Is it be possible to just write a quick script to delete all of the logs automatically?

At present, the answer would be NO.

In the future, with advances in technology, it may become possible to do this.

There is hope. According to Moore's law, cpu power doubles every 18 months. Software becomes more sophisticated by the day. New languages tend to have higher and higher levels of abstraction away from the hardware. It should become possible in the forseeable future.

Check back next year. You might be pleasantly surprised at how much innovation Microsoft will have accomplished by then. You might even find such tools as cron and bash.

Re:"or more often during heavy traffic"

[Wylfing]

This is OT, but what the hell. Years ago when an 8088 was a nice machine I caught my mom "deleting" a WordPerfect document from her computer by backspacing through the entire thing. When I caught her she said she'd been at it for about 30 minutes when I showed up. Now the real kicker is that I showed her how to actually delete a file (in those days you used your word processor like a file manager), but after waiting for about 15 seconds (remember, 8088; it was probably a 30 second operation) she grumbled that the speed of the delete operation was too slow and would I please cancel this operation and let her return to backspacing so she could get done "deleting" her file without further delay. I think in the cartoon bubble over her head she imagined the computer was backspacing for her.

Logs subpoenaed?

[Anand_S]

How does one subpoena a log file? I imagine the conversation went something like this:

"We have a summons for your log file."

"Uh, would you like us to send an admin to court with the log files?"

"No, just tell the log file to show up in court on the date indicated on the summons."

Endless cycle

[dark-nl]

Young padawan, one day you will bring balance to the force.

Huh!?

[giel]

... bring with him/her all logs recording the I.P. addresses and/or users who visited "http://cryptome.org/sec-con.htm" between 11/7/02 00:00:00 GMT and 11/14/02 23:59:59 GMT. If no such log exists for the specific page in question, please provide any logs that would cover the domain together with an explanation of what the log covers.

vi /var/log/httpd/smokinggun.log[ENTER]
256iwww.ago.state.ma.us[ENTER]
[ESC]
[SHIFT+z]z[SHIFT+z]

Ahh, Sir! Here I've got it, see? '/var/log/httpd/smokinggun.log'!
Eh, ahum...

Send them the logs one line at a time...

[smack_attack]

CustomLog | /bin/mail subpoena@ago.state.ma.us

this could take a while :)

Re:And round we go, again

[ReelOddeeo]

When will people learn, that good does not exist w/o evil. Evil can not exist w/o good.

I therefore propose that we eliminate all evil. How? By eliminating good.

We can start by having the government establish a system whereby everyone is constantly monitored for any evil. People guilty of wrong-thinking should be sent to re-education camps. Failing that, they should be eliminated. By taking these measured, reasoned steps, we can eliminate crime and all other forms of evil.

Only good will remain. (Or will it? Would such a "good" society be worth living in?)

No problem Sir!

[jhines]

We store our logs on /dev/null, about 2Gb per day. You interested in how many days worth?

What if...

[Zep1a]

The logs were wanted to Clear someone of a crime?

Hey! I didn't commit that breakin/rape/murder/etc..I was at home during that time browsing Cryptome! Check their logs!

WHAT! They were deleted??? Thanks for screwing me, Cryptome!

Zep--

Re:DON'T SLASHDOT CRYPTOME

[/dev/trash]

oh well. If you don't wanna pay don't be on the web. I'm sick of hearing about the poor webmaster paying out of his pocket.

Re:Isn't deleting logs an obstruction of justice?

[salesgeek]

BTW 9/11 was not the result of a lack of information problem. They had all the information they needed to stop it.

This is way off topic... but I'll bite:

9/11 was the result of an act of cowardice by religous kooks bent on trying to impose thier faith on the rest of the world. Fortunately, they will not get to fly an airplane again.

$G

Re:Ridiculous

[Happy Monkey]

I hate to respond to any article involving Soviet Russia, but I feel I must. Russians refer to the home country as the Rodinia, or Motherland. The Nazis, wanting to sound superior to their advesary, called their homeland the "Fatherland".

And the US, feeling that "Parentland" was too unweildy, but still wanting to be politically correct...

Re:Just a thought..

[spikedvodka]

"You cant have the freedoms granted by the government (laughable as they may be at times) without also following whatever rules make those freedoms a reality.

Hrmmm... I thought that the way the US gubbernment ran, it was, "We give them these rights, everything else (freedoms etc) we keep for ourselves"

Remind me of a good joke...
An American, A Soviet Russian, and an Austrian (No kangaroos) were talking at a bar... The Russian says, "Where I come from, we have a good law system, If it isn't allowed, it is forbidden" To which the american Responds, "No no no, That's backwards, where I come from it's much better, If it isn't forbidden, it's allowed" but the Austrian, after putting down his beer, shakes his head, "No, Where I com from it is even better, If it is forbidden, it is allowed"

Re:DON'T SLASHDOT CRYPTOME

[Anonymous Coward]

Cool, does that mean I can spam you then?