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Final KDevelop 3.0 Alpha Released

Posted by michael on from the developing-a-development-tool dept.

e8johan writes "The KDevelop team has released the final alpha of KDevelop 3.0 (a.k.a. Gideon) has been released. This third generation of KDevelop looks really promising as it features plug-in editors, many wizards (even for Kicker apps, KControl modules and KIOSlaves). Some of the features that I like best are the support for cross compilation and support for more languages than C/C++. Screenshots are here, more info here, dot.kde article here!"

23 comments

  1. What a ruthless bunch of... by curious.corn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean, publishing a link to a multiple screenshot page (8)... You must hate their servers ;-)

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    1. Re:What a ruthless bunch of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not front page news and/because it doesn't concern anybody but Linux developers. If they were linking to screenshots of the latest Windows game, that would be cruel server maltreatment.

    2. Re:What a ruthless bunch of... by (startx) · · Score: 2

      ahh, but it only hit the developers section rather than the front page, so it won't get /.'ed nearly as hard. That is until the next 2 or 3 times this story gets submitted until it finally does reach the front page :-)

  2. alphas all done, that leaves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...3 betas and at least 6 release candidates. That is how KDE release engineering works, right?

    1. Re:alphas all done, that leaves... by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Would you prefer they release a "final" that's not ready? A final that's buggy/crashy/etc?

      Have patience. You won't die if it takes them X more months to produce a final.

      As a full time user of kdevelop 2, which is a solid, powerful ide, I'm glad they're working on 3 but I'll happily wait until final to move over my projects.

      (The alphas have crashed on me way too much to get any useful work done. Not that I'm griping, gideon is amazing -- and I've done my duty by submitting many bug reports and backtraces.)

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    2. Re:alphas all done, that leaves... by Arandir · · Score: 2

      Yes, that's how it works. You should be happy that they're not making you perform unpaid QA duty.

      The first alpha of Windows was called Windows 95. Then they released a beta called Windows 95 OSR2. First release candidate was Windows 98, followed by a second release candidate called Windows 98SE. Their final release was Windows ME, which sucked so bad that Microsoft is starting the process all over from the beginning with another alpha release called Windows XP.

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    3. Re:alphas all done, that leaves... by larry+bagina · · Score: 1
      Would you prefer they release a "final" that's not ready? A final that's buggy/crashy/etc?

      So you're familiar with the Linux release paradigm.

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  3. I'm still not quite sure... by crapulent · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    Final KDevelop 3.0 Alpha Released
    Posted by michael [...] "The KDevelop team has released the final alpha of KDevelop [...] has been released.

    But I'm still not sure, has it been released or not?

    Is it too much to ask to read your submission at least once before submitting? Really now, come on.

  4. confusing XP buttons deliberate? by DrSkwid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know QT is cross platform so do you tink that by using XP style screen grabs they have it running in XP?

    If not I would suggest they are trying to mislead.

    Even with a 10 minute search on http://www.kdevelop.org I couldn't find any "supported platforms" information

    I'm not into having Windows look & feel. It's bad enough I have to use it occasionally. Those candy coloured buttons, uggh!

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    1. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      No. KDE does not run under Windows and probably never will. QT is cross-platform, but KDE is Unix-specific. The Unix/X11-specific things are everywhere, and not segregated into easy-to-replace components, so it would be difficult to get it to run on Windows.

      You might be able to get KDE running under cygwin + XFree86 with the Unix version of QT, but that's not really running under Windows and that's not really very useful. It certainly wouldn't be using MFC or GDI or whatever it is on Windows that draws the XP-style widgets.

      This is well-known. They are not trying to mislead, and you're probably the first person I hear saying "Windows" and "KDE" in the same sentence.

      There is no "supported platforms" page for kdevelop, as it's a KDE program and I imagine it's not doing system-specific things, so it would probably work on any Unix platform where KDE works. You figure out if your platform is supported by downloading and compiling and submitting patches if something breaks. Hint: it will work on any Unix platform you'll be using soon, since I'm guessing from your post that you don't admin AIX/HPUX/Irix/other esoteric Unices.

      The theme is gaudy and in poor taste, yes.

    2. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bzzt, wrong answer Mcfly!

      KDE can be run under cygwin.

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    3. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by CoolVibe · · Score: 2
      ...but KDE is Unix-specific...

      Aaaah... aaaaa... aaaa... *chBULLSHIToooooo*

      KDE seems to run on Cygwin. Search around on slashdot. Not that I run it on windows, I run it here on FreeBSD just dandy. Love to see Gideon in the ports tree.

    4. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

      I'm not into having Windows look & feel. It's bad enough I have to use it occasionally. Those candy coloured buttons, uggh!

      So change the theme of KDE/Gnome/Windowmaker/whatever you're using. How #$%^#&^ hard is that?

      Sheesh...

    5. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, you guys need to settle down. Cygwin is a Unix implementation. KDE does not run on Win32 ("Windows").

      The guy even said it ran on Cygwin and you guys are still having a spaz attack.

    6. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by e8johan · · Score: 2

      "Some of the features that I like best are the support for cross compilation..."

      GCC can cross compile to win32, just buy the full Qt version and hack away!

    7. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by giel · · Score: 2

      I guess I didn't get that, but if I did it was really scary...
      Er, what exactly did you say?

      Qt compiled to win32?
      HOW, WHAT, WHY, WHEN, tell me us about it!

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    8. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by e8johan · · Score: 2

      The commersial Qt version can run on Win32. If you have the dll you would (perhaps, maybe, haven't tried) be able to compile your exes using gcc in cross compilation mode from kdevelop, thus develop win32 apps in a linux environment...

      I guess that this means that there are very few excuses for running win32 as a developer (besides propretary tools and evil managers...)

    9. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by giel · · Score: 2

      Evil managers... Had to think about a manager I once had who came to us and asked what he had to do with this 'plain/text' mail attachment.

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    10. Re:confusing XP buttons deliberate? by e8johan · · Score: 1

      Mine said something like: "Well, it does indeed look like this php is better than asp, but as we use Office, we'll stick to what we know." so I'm stuck with Microsoft up mine... so to speak.

  5. Learn to read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's right at the bottom of the info list. The only thing REQUIRED (besides KDE, of course) is gdb.

  6. lol, you idiot by DrSkwid · · Score: 2

    unbunch your knickers mate

    enlightenment btw.

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    1. Re:lol, you idiot by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 1

      You're the one complaining about something that takes seconds to change....Who's the real idiot here, "mate"? :)

      No big deal, really, seeing baseless complaints about the (changeable) Windows look and feel of some Linux apps gets annoying after a while, though.

      That's all :)

  7. it's not all fool by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

    learn to read

    I'll summarise

    1. I don't think it's right selling your development tool for Linux using the Windows XP window decorations.

    2. The Windows XP decorations are ugly

    now shush

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