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Real DRM

Cinematique writes "C|Net is reporting that RealNetworks has released a format-independent Digital Rights Management software called Helix DRM. Real states that MP3, AAC, and even OGG can now be released with a DRM wrapper. And this is groundbreaking how? More importantly, do they expect content producers and consumers alike to really adopt this?"

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  1. parallel concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Real states that MP3, AAC, and even OGG can now be released with a DRM wrapper." Candy-bars have wrappers too, and they are typically removed, then the candy-bar is consumed.

    1. Re:parallel concept by medscaper · · Score: 5, Funny
      Candy-bars have wrappers too, and they are typically removed, then the candy-bar is consumed.

      Yeah, but most of the time when I unwrap a candy bar, I expect (and usually get) some _real_ content. In this case, it's just more Real(tm) crap.

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    2. Re:parallel concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The music industry has rappers, and they end up getting shot by other rappers.

    3. Re:parallel concept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ok, everyone, pregame briefing:

      if someone is poking around and accidentally cracks RealMedia's DRM, do not, i repeat, do not post it to slashdot, do not brag about in in IRC, and, for chrissake, do not incorporate into mplayer.

      let it look secure for a year or two so they can get corporate buy-in, and maybe base an internet movie rental service on it... ...then crack it.

  2. Real's business model. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    1. give out free player and charge for server
    2. lose market share to every other game in town
    3. come up with proprietary protection that no one will use.
    4. ???
    5. no profit
    6. bankruptcy!

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  3. Re:Real... by TheReckoning · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least they don't verify that the email address that they make you fill in is real. :)

    Hee hee hee...

    I always use "Bob@bob.com" for my emails when I have to enter an address and I'm pretty sure I won't actually need to receive important email about it. I feel sorry for that poor guy if he exists, because I suspect he gets a LOT of my SPAM. Sorry, Bob.

  4. Re:Consumer demand ? by gzur · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real grasping for straws I guess, no wonder either, I haven't let any thing Real get within 2 meters of my system for the last two years either. I mean, their windows and Linux clients sucks(AnnoyWareOfDeath) and their compression standards suck, no wonder they're trying to jump onto the DRM bandwagon, I would too, and barring that I'd become a plumper. :P

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  5. well, something tells me that by frenetic3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    it'll easy for them to enforce their DRM, since they've made a couple million computers their bitches after having installed RealPlayer...

    i guess we now know what those 94 "helper" processes that Real products always run on startup were, and what all those hidden registry keys were for :P

    and you figure that they've collected your e-mail address at least 66 times on installation.

    i wish they'd at least be honest with me and change their tray icon to a picture of Satan ramming me in the ass.

    (AND NO, I DON'T WANT TO AUTOMATICALLY FUCKING CHECK FOR UPDATES! CHRIST!) :P

    -fren

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  6. The conversation by Ogrez · · Score: 3, Funny

    Real salesman: Okay, we are going to sell you the software to produce secure content using our digital rights management for 2 hoojillion dollars, BUT!, you will make 3 hoojillion dollars more knowing that nobodoy is pirating your content. AND! We will provide the consumers with a free player to make things easier for you.

    Content Producer: But what happens when all the consumers give you the finger and nobody looks at my content..what happens when you try to sell me "patches" and "upgrades" to realproducer once im stuck using the format..what happens when people get tired of your crappy "client"...

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  7. Re:Obnoxious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    they make it _really_ hard to download the free player.

    Yeah, and it's a pain in the ass to get rid of once it has been installed.

    I can always tell when my brother's friends have touched my laptop. Real Player has been installed, and there's a pr0n website for the IE homepage.

    c:\>format c:

  8. Well now this just makes it Real easy! by ahknight · · Score: 3, Funny

    Think about it: one DRM for a ton of formats (indeed, this sounds like any file). Tons of people putting this on MP3, Real, WMA, AC3, etc.

    This is a GOOD THING.

    Break one scheme and get tons of formats for free! ;)

  9. Re:Can DRM ever work? by Ponty · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hush, you.

    Everyone knows that the only safe media is media that can't be played or watched. And eventually the Companies who know what's Best for us will find a way to make that an appealing thing to purchase. And we'll all be Happy.

  10. Real DRM by The+Gline · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...as opposed to that nasty fake artificial DRM.

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  11. Re:Real... by GlassUser · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always use support@ or postmaster@ the domain in the URI asking for my info, unless they have another one conveniently displayed on the page, then I might make use of that.

  12. Wrapper? I think not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    more like a strap-on. Bend over.

  13. DRM in OGG???? by coupland · · Score: 3, Funny

    >Real states that MP3, AAC, and even OGG can now be released with a DRM wrapper.

    Filthy, tricksy hobbitses!

  14. Re:Obnoxious by shepd · · Score: 5, Funny

    >but if you take the time to go into the config menus you can turn almost all of it off (otherwise I would have uninstalled it).

    So, you went through these steps then?

    - Tell it you don't want to register
    - Tell it you don't want it to eat your screen up with ads and such
    - Tell it you don't want to it take over your file associations
    - Tell it you don't want it to send your personal data to real
    - Stop the automatic stuff from playing
    - Tell it not to play the automatic stuff again
    - Tell it you don't want start center enabled
    - Tell it you really wanted to do the above
    - Tell it you don't want the "latest" version
    - Tell it you don't want to register
    - Tell it you don't want it to eat your screen up with ads and such
    - Tell it you don't want to it take over your file associations
    - Tell it you don't want it to send your personal data to real
    - Tell it you don't want to register
    - Tell it you don't want it to eat your screen up with ads and such
    - Tell it you don't want to it take over your file associations
    - Tell it you don't want it to send your personal data to real

    Yup, that's right, you have to redo a lot of the steps if you want to keep your realplayer private.

    Anyways, I'm sorry, but I get paid too much per hour to go through that trouble again. And on one job I'm only a dollar an hour away from minimum wage! They can keep their trash.

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