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Wireless Internet Launched on Lufthansa FRA - IAD

JpMaxMan writes "On flight LH 418 from Frankfurt, Germany, to Washington, DC, Lufthansa AG began on Wednesday a three-month trial for a new onboard wireless broadband service that allows travelers to connect to the Internet some 10,000 meters in the sky."

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  1. The thing about airlines that scares me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is that they go through all this trouble to prevent bombs getting on board, yet they act like the plane will crash if I have my CD player on during take-off. Heck, if it could, and I wanted to crash the plane, I'd just turn it on and leave it out of sight!

    1. Re:The thing about airlines that scares me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You, as well as most of the public, knows nothing about airplane systems or operations. Electronic devices are *MOST LIKELY* not going to cause the airplane to crash. What they may do is interfere with various navigation systems causing the airplane to go off course. This increases the time of the flight, which increases the cost, which increases the ticket price.

      Going off course also creates a safety hazard, in that the airplane may drift into the path of another one. HOWEVER, it is still unlikely that a crash will result as there is both a controller watching the airplanes on a radar (usually), and TCAS on the airplane (often airplaneS) in question which will alert crews to the danger. But you probably don't want to be a passanger when TCAS suddenly commands a descent.

      So you're probably not going to crash an airplane with your electronic device, you'll just piss a lot of people off, and the pilot could quite easily have you arrested, as it is a federal offense.

    2. Re:The thing about airlines that scares me by fiftyfly · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "You, as well as most of the public, knows nothing about airplane systems or operations. Electronic devices are *MOST LIKELY* not going to cause the airplane to crash. What they may do is interfere with various navigation systems causing the airplane to go off course. This increases the time of the flight, which increases the cost, which increases the ticket price."

      Riiight, so we're told that environmental radiation on these flights is high enough to be an "occupational hazard" but rather heavily regulated devices in my pocket are going to be a problem for the plane's (hopefully) hardend systems?

      Bullshit.

      Yeah, I gues I could some items like cell phones/radios maybe eletric motors & other such devices that are very rf "leaky" but there's no way in hell I'm buying that story for, say, a cd player.

      I suppose there could be other reasons like "our insurance carrier will kill us if we don't take reasonable precautions to ensure that you at least pretend to pay attention to the (generally usesless - I mean wtf cares what you do if your plane smokes some field at 700km/hr?) safety notices, so please kindly turn the walkman"off". yeah I suppose I could buy that, but that's not what they tell you - they say some babble (and it's never really the same on each flight) about "being found to interfere with electrical systems" or "navigation systions" or "the plane's systems" and never once say anything meaningfull or cite a regulation, or give contact info for those with inquiries or complaints.

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      "Sanity is not statistical", George Orwell, "1984"
  2. pr0n and the very friendly skies by sugardaddyano · · Score: 5, Funny

    does this mean i can finally join the solo mile high club?

    1. Re:pr0n and the very friendly skies by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sort of a high jack?

  3. risks and advantages? by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Interesting


    It will be interesting to see how different countried react to this availability onboard - many countried are VERY paranoid about RF gear operating on an airliner due to fear of interferance with the onboard systems...

    Personally I'm quite suprised that this is a wireless solution, and not wired onboard, as that would seem a much more 'acceptable' solution worldwide, and quite probably more secure for individuals.

    I wonder how well seperated the network streams are between users? network sniffing count suddenly before very interesting ;)

  4. Some day... by seanadams.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Eventually the Internet will become an essential service in any business that's open to the public: malls, airports, schools, bus stops... just like drinking fountains, walkways, and bathrooms.

    For the near future though, everyone is going to be trying to figure out how they can charge a few bucks a minute to let people with important business acces their $50/mo DSL line. I hope people just decide not to pay for these services. There's no reason why an airport/airplane/whatever can't afford to give access to a wireless AP just as a courtesy.I would definitely enjoy flying a lot more, and they'd get way more business from me by throwing stuff like this in for free.

  5. In related news by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Funny

    The RIAA and MPAA, building upon their already close relationship with law enforcement agencies, are lobbying to give armed air marshalls the power to shoot on sight anyone caught engaging in "terrorist activities" such as file sharing and unauthorised humming.

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    Boffoonery - downloadable Comedy Benefit for Bletchley Park
  6. PRICELESS by hckrdave · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ticket: $200
    Cab to the airport: $12
    Drinks at then lounge: $30
    Watching porn @ 600mph feet all wasted: $PRICELESS

  7. Warchalking (Warflying) Bums in Lear jets by cyber_rigger · · Score: 5, Funny


    Now we will see bums in their lear jets
    warflying in close formation to the airliners
    just to get the free internet access.

    :^)

  8. Re:shared connection? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most people aren't going to download large quantities of mp3's or movies while sitting on a plane. They'll do that before they leave.

    The service is intended for websurfing. Think about what percentage of time you spend loading pages vs reading them on your high speed connection. Even with 50 people sharing the connection, only a few will be downloading pages at a time, and the rest will be reading what they've already downloaded.

    Jason
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  9. Sample Terrorist IM Log by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Akmad469GoodTime: R U RDY 4 KILLING????

    SexyGirl17Muslim: no meal service yet :(

    Akmad469GoodTime: I H8 NUTS!!!

    SexyGirl17Muslim: u r nuts!!! LOL!

    Akmad469GoodTime: ROFLOLOFLOLFO!!!!!!

  10. Question by Maxwell'sSilverLART · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a pilot, and an American, I just have to ask one question:

    What the hell is a meter?

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    Moderate drunk! It's more fun that way!
    1. Re:Question by fiftyfly · · Score: 5, Funny

      it's, roughly, the distance from your head to your ass. Oh wait, sorry - my bad, that would be an _inch_

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      "Sanity is not statistical", George Orwell, "1984"
  11. A Flying Webserver by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Eventually someone will take their webserver along on the plane and then posts a Slashdot article about it. What happens when we slashdot an airplane?

    Jason
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  12. RF Concerns a Non-Issue by Foxxz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Researchers have already bombarded commercial jets with all types of RF of many frequencies and varying power and found no flight threatening effects. This is due to heavely sheilded cables. The electronic device usage fear stems from cellular phone companies advising airlines not to use the phones in flight as they would have difficulting tracking the signal and the signal would reach many towers simultaneously. For the most part, RF is a non-issue. But still comply to keep the paranoid at bay.

    Private aircraft on the other hand is more effected by RF than their commercial counter parts. Cell phones and ham radios have been known to crash private aircraft.

    A recent story. A local car stereo business installed a TV and sound system in a private aircraft. The FAA was on that like stink on a hog. The equipment was not certified and threw out quite a mess of RF. Not to mention non of the cables were sheilded. Both the pilot and the company who installed the equipment were fined.

    I recently received the device that creates the high voltage needed to strobe the lights on an aircraft along with its timer circuit. The device oscilated 24v at high frequency through a transformer and was rectified into two capacitors at 600v. this was creating noise in the radio and the part was promptly removed.

    My father is a mechanic and supervisor for a private aircraft repair business. Thats how I get my info on the personal airecraft. I saw the commercial aircraft RF bombardement on Disconvery i beleive.

    -Foxxz

  13. Re:Cost and Speed by mni12 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beginning in 2004, the service will cost between 30 (US$32) and 35 per flight. Not bad compared to for example what T-mobile charges at the airports.

  14. So now electronics wont crash planes..... by originalhack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This finally proves the assertion that the reason for the ban on in-flight electronics was to protect Airfone and in-flight movies from competition and had nothing to do with RF interference. Now that the airlines found a way to extract revenue from this, suddenly spread-spectrum RF signals are perfectly safe.

    Turn off your cellphone please. And put away that gameboy.

    It's hard to feel sorry for the struggling airlines when lie as much as they do.

  15. Reminds me of ... by belbo · · Score: 4, Funny
    this cartoon

    (For all you German challenged people out there, it reads: 'New device found. Device: Airbus A310. Start automatic configuration?')

    b.

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    "Just believe everything I tell you, and it will all be very, very simple."