Michelin to Include RFID Transmitter in Every Tire
An anonymous reader writes "According to the RFID Journal, Michelin (the tire manufacturer) has announced that it is planning on embedding RFID transmitters into every tire. The article states that 'the microchip stores the tire's unique ID, which can be associated with the vehicle identification number.' Let the privacy invasion begin!" If they're going to embed electronics in tires, I wish they'd start with tiny pressure gauges. (See also this story from a few days ago about the coming surge in RFID tags.)
If they can put those things in tires, they can
put them in condoms, too.
"Sir, I just don't understand how you could have recieved puncture damage in the exact same spot on all 4 tires."
or,
"Why does the rubber on this tire appear melted?"
Brings new meaning to the phrase burning rubber....
"You now have a lot more riding on your tires, so don't do anything stupid 'cause we're watchin' your ass, bitch."
Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate. Ex-O'Reilly/MIT employee, now a full-time Google employee.
They'll make you put an identification tag on your bumper
"A microprocessor... is a terrible thing to waste." --
GeneralEmergency
If Firestone does it, they'll be sure to include this code:
...
Tire leftFrontTire = new Tire(props);
if(leftFrontTire.pressure > randomVar) {
leftFrontTire.implode();
}
"I only speak the truth"
Karma: null(Mostly affected by an unassigned variable)
Don't swap your grocery store cards. Everyone can use the same grocery store card. At Safeway, all my friends punch in the same phone number: (510)THE-SCAM.
Please, join the club.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
Yeah but people just can't secretly scan your VIN every time you go through a tollbooth, stop at a traffic light (You KNOW that those wires in the road don't really make the light green), or drive through McDonalds.
You are definitely right, it's absolutely absurd that they're doing this. Next thing we're going to be given an identification number that we have to prominently display on our car that is linked to our VIN that _anybody_ can see and find out information about us!
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
Blame Congress, not the tire makers.
Oh don't worry, we already are. If there's an invasion of privacy going on, Congress is somehow involved.
Oh, and Hillary Rosen.
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Have sesnors that read the rfid tags of the the
car in each parking space. Then use the info collected to create a list of empty parking
spaces. Then transmit the gps cordinates of each
empty space on a predfined frequency. That way I
could have my cars navigation system direct me to
the nearest available parking spot.
That way I don't have to drive around for an hour to find a spot.
There is several flaws with this Idea, but atleast
it is not a nother there goes my privacy post.
>(here 'Ford' is used because it's the shortest car manufacturer's name) (typing that negated any benefit, didn't it?)?
;-)
GM? AMC? Fiat? Lada?
Oh, wait, I have the winner: Kia!
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
Oh, wait, I have the winner: Kia! ;-)
Oh, wait, the winner is GM.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
>A lot of people spent more and more time on the toilet for some reason and other people developed a habit of forgetting their cards and having to get security to release the doors remotely.
You're telling me nobody flushed 'em down the toilet? That would be fun for the tracking system!
Or, a favourite. Buy a sandwich at the sandwich machine. Put the card in the sandwich's place. Heh.
No, no, best idea: Plant the card on your boss. When he chews out your ass, tell him to check his.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
Walk places.
Take the fucking bus.
Ride around on your banned Segway.
"When pogo-sticks get outlawed, only outlaws will bounce around and not be tracked by the Feds."
Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachtani?
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TOP SECRET FACT:Most modern cars have tracking transponders!
Spy transmission chips embedded in tires that can be read REMOTELY while driving.
A secret initiative exists to track all funnel-points on interstates and US borders for car tire ID transponders (RFid chips embedded in the tire).
Yup. My brother works on them.
Your tires have a passive coil with 64 to 128 bit serial number emitter in them! (AIAG B-11 ADC v3.0) . A particular frequency energizes it enough so that a receiver can read its little ROM. A ROM which in essence is your GUID for your TIRE. Multiple tires do not confuse the readers. Its almost identical to all "FastPass" "SpeedPass" technologies you see on gasoline keychain dongles and commuter windshield sticker-chips. The US gov has secretly started using these chips to track people.
Its kind of like FBI "Taggants" in fertilizer and "Taggants" in Gasoline and Bullets, and Blackpowder. But these car tire transponder Ids are meant to actively track and trace movement of your car.
I am not making this up. Melt down a high end Firestone, or Bridgestone tire and go through the bits near the rim (sometimes at base of tread) and you will locate the transmitter (similar to 'grain of rice' pet ids and Mobile SpeedPass, but not as high tech as the tollbooth based units). Sokymat LOGI 160, and Sokymat LOGI 120 transponder buttons are just SOME of the transponders found in modern high end car tires. The AIAG B-11 Tire tracking standard is now implemented for all 3rd party transponder manufactures [covered below].
It is for QA and to prevent fraud and "car theft", but the US Customs service uses it in Canada to detect people who swap license plates on cars when doing a transport of contraband on a mule vehicle that normally has not logged enough hours across the border. The customs service and FBI do not yet talk about this, and are starting using it soon.
Photos of chips before molded into tires:
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:TAQIKjBI01
(slashdot ruins links, so you will have to remove the ASCII space it insertess usually into the url above to get to the shocking info and photos on the enbedded LOGI 160 chips that the us gov scans when you cross mexican and canadian borders.)
You never heard of it either because nobody moderates on slashdot anymore and this is probably +0 still. It has also never appeared in print before and is very secret.
Californias Fastpass is being upgraded to scan ALL responding car tires in future years upcoming. I-75 may get them next in rural funnel points in Ohio.
http://www.tadiran-telematics.com/products6.htm
but the fact is... YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE A RADIO TRANSPONDER not counting your digital cell phone which is routinely silently pulsed in CA bay area each rush hour morning unless turned off (consult Wired Magazine Expose article). Those data point pulses are used by NSA on occasions.
The us FBI with NRO/NSA blessings, has requested us gov make this tire scanning information as secret as the information regarding all us inkjet printers sold in usa in the last 3 years using "yellow" GUID barcode under dark ink regions to serialize printouts to thwart counterfeiting of 20 dollar bills. (30 to 40 percent of ALL California counterfeiting is done using cheap Epson inkjet printers, most purchased with credit cards foolishly). Luckily court dockets divulge the existence of the Epson serial numbers on your printouts... but nobody except a handful of people know about this Tire scanning upgrade to big brother's arsenal.
YOU MUST BUY NEUTRALIZED OR FOREIGN TIRES!!!!! Soon such tires will become illegal to import or manufacture, just as Gasoline must have "Taggants" added or gasoline is illegal, as are non-self-aging 9 mm bullets.
It is currently VERY illegal to buy or disable the "911 help" GPS emitter in digital cell phones in the US or ship a modified phone across state borders, but it is still legal to turn off your cell phone in your car while travelling. As you should. And you should be wary of your tires now too. : http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:TAQIKjBI01gC
Alternatively you could illegally build jamming devices at : 13.56 MHz, + 1,356 MHz +- many freqs (TI-RFid) and a few others. If microwave is ever employed you might not be able to effectively jam but your brain would possibly cook over time, as it now known as of this year that the three harmonic resonances of water are not the only chemical actions harming human tissue at gigaherz frequencies. Jammers would be illegal and violators easy to locate. Tire removal is the only option.
RFIDs have been covertly used and sold by TI for over ten years are in many many products... and now your tires are being read by the us gov as you drive at speeds of up to 100 Mph on primary US interstate corridors. (Actually 160 km/h).
Those same US interstate corridors have radiation detectors too, but a small layer of stacks of interlocked graphite blocks those from detecting stealthy deliveries. Graphite blocks are IDEAL for shipping "dirty bomb" components, I believe.
Anyway, regarding tire radio transmitters: the sokymat LOGI 160, and sokymat LOGI 120) are just SOME of the transponders found in modern tires. The earliest tire radio spy chips had only 64 bit serial numbers but they have rapidly evolved post Sept 11 bombings: LOGI 160 LOGI 120 has 224 bit R/W memory (sokymat.ch) to be marked using external hand help injectors with "salt" info when the fbi tags your parked car.
Basically the FBI "marks your car" without touching it physically, thus eliminating a "warrant" to put a locater on your vehicle. Just as the FBI can listen to you while you are at home by LEGALLY bouncing an infrared beam off your vibrating window pane and modulating the signal, the US Gov can LEGALLY inject (program) a saltable read-write sokymat LOGI eeprom tire chip (and other brands of tire transponders)
Using these chips to track people while they drive is actually the idea of the us gov, and current chips CANNOT BE DISABLED or removed. They hope ALL tires will have these chips in 5 years and hope people have a very hard time finding non-chipped tires. Removing the chips is near impossible without destroying the tire as the chips were designed with that DARPA design goal.
They are hardened against removal or heat damage or easy eye detection and can be almost ANYWHERE in the new "big brother" tires. In fact in current models they are integrated early and deep into the substrate of the tire as per US FBI request.
Our freedom of travel are going away in 2003, because now there is an international STANDARD for all tire transponder RFID chips and in 2004 nearly ALL USA cars will have them. Refer to AIAG B-11 ADC, (B-11 is coincidentally Post Sept 11 fastrack initiative by US Gov to speed up tire chip standardization to one read-back standard for highway usage).
The AIAG is "The Automotive Industry Action Group"
The non proprietary (non-sokymat controlled) standard is the AIAG B-11 standard is the "Tire Label and Radio Frequency Identification" standard
"ADC" stands for "Automatic Data Collection"
The "AIDCW" is the US gov manipulated "Automatic Identification Data Collection Work Group"
The standard was started and finished rapidly in less than a year as a direct consequence of the Sep 11 attacks by Saudi nationals.
I believe detection of the AIAG B-11 radio chips (RFIS serial number transponders) in the upgraded car tracking http://www.tadiran-telematics.com/products6.html is currently secret knowledge. Another reason to leave "finger print on Driver license" California, but Ohio gets it next, as will every other state eventually.
The AIAG is claiming the chips reduce car theft, assist in tracking defects, and assists error-proofing the tire assembly process. But the real secret is that these 5 cent devices are a us government backed initiative to track citizens travel without their consent or ability to disable the transponders in any way.
All tire manufacturers are forced to comply AIAG B-11 3.0 Radio Tire tracking standard by the 2004 model year.
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:-qJPsZjkMA
Viewing b11 synopsis is free, downloads from that are $10 and tracked by the FBI. Use the google cache to avoid leaving breadcrumbs.
A huge (28 megabyte compressed zip) video of a tire being scanned remotely is at http://mows.aiag.org/ScriptContent/videos/ (the file is "video Aiagb-11.zip"). I would use a proxie when touching it. The FBI is monitoring the "curious" hackers.
And just as showerheads are now illegal to import into the USA from Canada or mexico, as are drums of industrial Freon, and standard size toilets are illegal to import for home use, soon car tires without radio transponders will be illegal to bring across state borders.
The US gov is getting away with this. You read it here first.
Learn and read.
I broke this story 5 months ago here and a few times after that. Each time, the FBI or Gov employees modded me down to -1. But if moderation WORKED, then you would have known all this 4 or 5 months ago instead of in 2003, when all tires have us gov mandated chips in them to track you on the highway (after they learn your GUID of course).
If they're going to embed electronics in tires, I wish they'd start with tiny pressure gauges.
Hey, Timothy, you fucktard, read the article:
Philips and Texas Instruments have also developed pressure and temperature sensors that use battery-powered RFID tags to communicate with a reader in the dashboard. That enables the driver to know when the pressure of one particular tire drops below a certain level (see RFID Chip To Monitor Tire Pressure).
So, are we going to start seeing people swap tires with each other?
They already do.
Park your car in a garage in New York City. See if you have the same tires when you get it back.
B-)
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I worked for Michelin for seventeen years, so I might be a resource on this. Michelin management is basically a bunch of Nazi's disguised as french. And that is just the little Napoleon's running around (You know who you are Camille), American management is worse than the french, basically bloodsucking leaches that will steal any idea for their own personal gain (Hi Jim!). These aren't pointy heads, but pointy horned bosses. I use to say buy Michelin for the quality, but if you buy Michelin, you are supporting human rights abuses.
I'm assuming you've never walked out to a parking lot and found your car on blocks...
I'd leave the RFIDs if it meant I could catch that bitch.
Not to ignore the significant privacy issues to the commoner, but once these things are in tires, they can be used by criminals to watch for police... or discover if an undercover cop is driving up...
Here's how:
1) Acquire a reader.
2) Go to a location where there's lots of cop or cop-related vehicles (police station parking lot, police academy parking lot, streets right in front of cop shops, favorite cop hangouts, donut shops, etc.) and scan the tires... Capture the IDs.
To allay suspicion - have some 10-12 year old kids play hide-n-seek around the vehicles while they wear goofy looking backpacks... Inside the backpacks are the readers... If the kids are caught it's "ummm...sorry officer... we're just playing hide n seek!"...
3) Install readers in the street around your "compound"...
4) When cars pass over that match the ID's you've captured, trigger a camera, an alert, heavy duty bolts to lock the doors and windows, whatever...
5) If you're doin' a buy on the sly, you can set up a portable reader with a wi-fi link on it to see if the car pulling up is a cop car or not... If it is, take appropriate action...
And for those of you who think that the cops just won't use it - that's OK too... If the consumers are mandated to use it and the cops aren't, then there's information in the lack of information ya know... (gotta love inference controls eh?)
Yep... this is great... hope the feds like it...