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Helix Server Source Released

Rob Lanphier writes "RealNetworks just released the Helix DNA Server source code, the main engine powering the RealNetworks' Helix Universal Server (nee RealServer). Additionally, the RealNetworks' Public Source License (RPSL) just became approved as an Open Source Initiative (OSI) certified license. Speaking of which, the Helix DNA Server is available under RPSL (which wasn't originally our stated intention). Ask questions via IRC during our live webcast at 11am PST (19:00 GMT) or just read the press release."

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  1. Unlimited streaming now? by liebesgruss · · Score: 5, Informative

    So we can use more than 1MBit/s for streaming now?
    The 1year-testing-version is limited to this bandwith.

    cheers,
    liebesgruss

  2. Re:What will this do for us? by Koos+Baster · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess the're just doing "the descent thing" (releasing the source) because they know that the OSS community will copy & improve it anyway if they don't. Also, it will help them gain market share, mainly as a result of the community porting their stuff to other (hardware) platforms.

  3. Retard Fight 2003 by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, most commodity PC's ship with the same software but you're saying that this will never change and I am telling you that you're wrong. If MS were to suddenly take up Ogg vorbis and begin throwing their weight behind it, you should realize that it would quickly become a standard. You are basically saying that "Ogg vorbis will never become mainstream because it isn't mainstream." I am telling you that the possibility exists for a market shift and ogg vorbis becoming a standard. Yes, websites will cater to their clientele, obviously. You're not saying anything revolutionary with that statement. You're missing the point though. I'm not saying a shift would come from the websites now am I? In fact, I merely said that conditions within the market COULD lead to a shift. You're denying this possibility because you're being short-sighted. Your last sentence used a rather ambiguous "this" and "their" so I won't bother with that. I'm right and you're wrong.

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  4. Re:So by davetrainer · · Score: 3, Informative
    borderline spyware reporting of usage metrics back to their home base


    There's nothing borderline about it.


    Back in 1999, it was discovered that Real were assigning unique IDs to RealJukebox users and profiling them without their knowledge. Real were subjected to a federal probe and slapped with two lawsuits. Even then, were Real compelled to stop what they were doing? Nah, they just issued a patch that maybe 10% of all users even knew existed.


    Real have cleaned up their act since then, but clearly their past arrogance has left a bad taste in the mouths of many users.

  5. Re:Really Free? Read the article for codec info. by Havokmon · · Score: 4, Informative
    They are shooting themselves in the foot if they don't supply a codec for free.

    And according to the news release, that apparently nobody read, you can stream Real and MP3 for free, non-commerically.

    "Helix DNA Server streams MP3, RealAudio® and RealVideo®. RealNetworks intends to add support for MPEG-4 after the MPEG-4 systems license terms have been released by the MPEG-4 licensing body, MPEG LA. Developers can create extensions for other media types such as Windows Media and QuickTime, or they can license these extensions from RealNetworks through the Helix Community. "

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  6. Re:Benchmarks? by glitchvern · · Score: 3, Informative
    Are the RSPL and ASPL compatible? I mean, can we take code from Darwin and code from Helix and legally put it into the same app?

    Yes, details here
  7. Re:Really Free? by Sinistar2k · · Score: 2, Informative

    WinAmp 2.8 handles OGG streaming, but it is hopelessly broken in 3.0 and has been so for half a year now.

    So when you tell your friends to download WinAmp, make sure they get the old one.

  8. Re:That's nice. Call me when the client works by waxed · · Score: 2, Informative
  9. Re:That's nice. Call me when the client works by waxed · · Score: 2, Informative
  10. Re:If anyone has trouble installing this on FreeBS by RealDean · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thanks for pointing this out. It builds on my FreeBSD 4.3 box, but from what you describe, a slightly cleaner fix for FreeBSD 4.7 is probably to change this (line 1129 of common/lang/xml/xmlesc.cpp):

    "://", ulLen);

    To be:

    (const char*)"://", ulLen);

    Does this fix the problem as well?

    Above all, I encourage you to take this up at dev@server.helixcommunity.org where it will be easier to get assistance.

    Dean Collins
    Server Core Technical Lead / SDE
    RealNetworks, Inc.
    Seattle, WA