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Up-to-date TCPA Member List

Michael Ritter writes "This night, the AgainstTCPA project released an up-to-date version of the TCPA memberlist. Instead of the already known 184, it lists 200 companies, including newly joined VIA and Sony. Three companies that were listed on the old one are missing on the new list. See the full list..."

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  1. Old hardware becomes valuable.... by brianjcain · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Start gathering old (or at least current) hardware now. If you're good at soldering, you might be able to wait a bit longer -- modchips will probably work on the first generation TCPA products.

    Yeah, TCPA is pure evil. Make no mistake, I can't stand the fact that everyone's on board with this. But at least some good things might come about -- not having to remember 1000 passwords would be kinda cool. (Especially on your computer at work, where those Nazis are conspiring to control your every move anyways.)

    1. Re:Old hardware becomes valuable.... by infolib · · Score: 2, Informative

      Start gathering old (or at least current) hardware now.

      Not necessary. You can simply switch off TCPA. Then of course you won't be allowed to download movies from MPAA-approved-moviesite.com, but that's no different from using old hardware.

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    2. Re:Old hardware becomes valuable.... by Alsee · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You can simply switch off TCPA.

      Actually there's a good chance programs will be able to "cheat" and access TCPA even when you disable it. This question was covered in the interview with the AMI BIOS representitive. He acknowledged the issue but gave an inadaquate analysis of the implications.

      He said that there were three possible ways to "switch TCPA off". (1) in software (2) as a BIOS setting or (3) a hardware jumper on the motherboard. In case (1) software can obviously switch it back on. In (2) things are more complicated, but software may still be able to switch it on. The only way to be sure TCPA is off is if the motherboard manufactures CHOOSE to make it a hardware switch AND they do it in a way that LOCKS the hardware in a totally inert state.

      IMO motherboard manufacturers are unlikely to choose method (3). It's easier to manage things in software and dealing with motherboard jumper settings is a nightmare for tech support.

      The AMI representitive sort of dismissed it by saying that it would take a reboot to establish a proper boot sequene root of trust. Two problems. Either the software can demand a reboot as part of the instalation process or the software can activate TCPA and make do without the proper bootup root of trust. It wouldn't be fully according to spec, but it would still work. And if they are going to "cheat" by activating your disabled TCPA then there's no reason they wont cheat be working around the missing boot sequence as well.

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  2. 4 of top 5 PC vendors by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Four out of the Top 5 PC Vendors are on the list (HP, Dell, Gateway, IBM).

    Only Apple is missing. I guess they'll stick to "Don't Steal Music".

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