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Robin Gross and IP Justice

ethereal writes "According to this news.com article, former EFF attorney Robin Gross is starting up a new group called IP Justice in order to 'promote balance in global intellectual property law.' Her greatest fear? 'That we're too late.'"

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  1. Re:FORST PIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    still no fp's? you trolls are slackin!

  2. Re:FORST PIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    get a job. and, uh Fahrvegneugen or something

  3. moron the massturds of FUDgePacking(tm) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that's right, long before va lairIE became a propertIE, we were watching .asp the wrest of the wwworld was being MiSlead on the NYT/everywhere, now here.

    billwg - 10:16pm Feb 26, 2001 EST (#19074 of 19931)

    rowpet 2/26/01 10:02pm

    There are a couple of issues here. You have a valid point to some extent, but you are wrong when you think that you have a right to install the OEM supplied OS on a second computer, however you treat the first one. The license terms provided to the OEM and passed to the OEM's customer stipulate that the copy of Windows that comes preloaded on the new computer is restricted to that computer. The OEM pays less for that license than the OEM would pay for a less restricted license. You didn't get a full retail copy of Windows with the computer, you got the restricted version. But, if you are only intending to use it on the computer you bought it with, that's a bargain because it suits your plan at the minimum price.

    If you are planning to legally or illegally move the copy onto additional computers, you should have bought a computer that comes with a full version license and an installation CD. The low price OEM versions only come with a repair disk now.

    If you do have a hard drive failure, you are at the mercy of the OEM to restore the OS on a new hard drive. If the computer is under warranty, that is no problem. If not, you are extra screwed because, depending on the OEM, you may have to buy an OS pack in addition to the replacement hard drive. It may be cheaper to just buy a new computer with a new license. Or maybe that is when you will want to switch to Linux if you are mad enough about it.

    I think that the repair disks are pretty unpopular over all and may cause a lot of unwanted backlash for Microsoft.

    yikes, that's a mouthful, even for a professionull FUDgePacker.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF -8&q=microsoft+%22bill+weisgerber%22&btnG=Google+S earch

  4. Scared to death by John_Renne · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Mod me down for being off-topic but the subject allmost scared me to death. For a little moment I thought she was going to defend IP for big companies. Reading a complete news.com article has seldom been such a comfort :-)

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  5. Will someone tell the Pope to just fuck off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Pope wants EU to call itself Christian

    By Roland Flamini
    UPI International Editor
    From the International Desk
    Published 1/23/2003 5:51 PM

    WASHINGTON, Jan. 23 (UPI) -- Pope John Paul II is lobbying European governments to officially recognize the European Union's Christian roots, but diplomatic sources said Thursday that secular opposition is likely to block his efforts.

    Vatican diplomats, and the pope himself in meetings with European officials, want to see a strong reference to Christianity included in the preamble to the European Union's Constitution, now being drafted by the Convention on the Future of Europe chaired by former French President Valery Giscard d'Estaing.

    Working through the Catholic delegates among the more than 100 European parliamentarians attending the convention, the Vatican hopes to have a statement written into the text identifying the EU with the Christian faith, a senior European official in Washington told United Press International Thursday.

    The Vatican argument is that Christianity's fundamental role in shaping European culture should be acknowledged in what is destined to become the EU's key document.

    "It's something that is apparently close to Pope John Paul's heart," the official said. "But it won't survive the process."

    A reference to the EU as a Christian institution would further complicate the debate in Europe over whether Turkey is eligible for admission, some analysts said. Turkey, officially a secular state, is seeing a revival of its Muslim origins. A party with Muslim roots, the Islamic Justice and Development Party, emerged with a majority in last November's elections. But the main objection of some member countries has less to do with the Islamic upsurge and more with their belief that Turkey is not a European country.

    European sources said the Turkey issue is only a secondary point. Although the picture was mixed, few of the 15 EU member states, and of the new members scheduled to join in the next two years, include a reference to religion in their respective constitutions. These sources report a widespread reluctance among convention delegates to oblige the pope and involve religion in the process of shaping the new Europe.

    Even predominantly Catholic Italy and Spain are not officially described as Catholic countries. The Italians removed the religious designation from their post-war constitution in 1945. France's tradition of secularism goes back to the French Revolution.

    Greece is still officially an Orthodox country, but the Greek government, under pressure from the EU, recently removed the bearer's religious affiliation from Greek passports. Britain recognizes the Anglican Church as the country's official religion, and the British monarch is the head of the church.

    The timing of such a statement would be difficult for European member states in another respect, the sources argue. Putting an emphasis on Christian values now could alienate the large immigrant populations of Muslims that now reside in virtually every member country.

    The convention expects to complete its work on determining the shape of the EU by the autumn, after which its proposals will be sent to member governments for approval and finally adopted at a special conference in 2004.

    "If anything, the statement the Vatican wants should more correctly refer to the Judeo-Christian culture, but that would really set the cat among the Islamic pigeons," the European official pointed out. "But any reference to Christianity would create additional problems, and the EU has enough of them already."

    But another official said that in seeking a strong mention of Christianity, the Vatican was facing its own reality. Pope John Paul has often expressed concern at the decline of religion in Europe. "The Vatican must now look on Europe as missionary territory," the official said. "They need to conquer lost ground."
    Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International

  6. IT IS FUCKING COLD HERE. BRRRRR!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  7. IP Justice.. by arpit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I say this has been a long time coming. Who knows, this might even lead to greater adoption of IPv6 and we'll finally solve that IP shortage that everyone is talking about.