LinuxWorld Report, Day 2

greechneb writes "Roblimo is reporting again on LWCE's second day. Check out his reports on break dancers, hp, suse, gentoo, linux on laptops, and most important, free booze." See yesterday's story if you missed it. Some other LWCE notes: United Linux is sucking in more partners, and even Microsoft won one of the show awards. And yes, Robin is going around asking the interview questions. :)

Comments

Re:MS wins at Linux?

[hawkbug]

For those us that don't know what services for unix 3.0 is, could you enlighten us? I'm now very curious what type of product M$ has produced that works with, or on unix.

Re:MS wins at Linux?

[Suicyco]

Yeah they won the Open Source Excellence award for Best System Ingegration Software (Services for Unix 3.0)

I didn't know SFU was Open Source. I dont think it is as a matter of fact. Plus it sucks. Hmmm..

SCO Involved with UnitedLinux?

[zmalone]

The article on UnitedLinux's new partners has a number of interesting tidbits. First of all, I was completly unaware that SCO was such a major contendor in the group, has anyone thought about how this fits into their supposed lawsuits against Linux vendors? If they are really intending to sue, it could be a way to harm Redhat, and the other non-UnitedLinux distributions.

As for the new partners mentioned in the article, none of them seem that major. All that UnitedLinux seems to get out of it is the ability to use a name, and all the companies (HP, Intel, IBM, and AMD) get out of it is prerelease code.

Microsoft win

[Anonymous Coward]

for services for UNIX.

Sounds like they've started to take us seriously. Now the cry is, "If you use Linux servers you should use Windows desktops!" and, "If you use Linux desktops you should use Windows servers!" and, "You can easily migrate from Linux to Windows!"

I wonder how successful they will be. I always saw Linux and Microsft as allies in the war against overpriced UNIX system vendors like Sun and SGI. Interesting to see what will happen now that they are fighting each other.

Re:Microsoft win

[harlows_monkeys]

Sounds like they've started to take us seriously

I've read a good explanation for what they are doing. Gates is no dummy. In fact, he's one of the brightest businessmen around. He has first hand experience how rapidly technology can change, and is very aware that almost of Microsoft is built on technology that didn't even exist 10 years before Microsoft started.

He is quite aware that things will continue to change, and everything that is important to Microsoft now might be just a small technology niche in ten years, and he has no intention of letting Microsoft go the way of, say, Data General or Digital. That's why Microsoft is trying to get involved in pretty much everything they can involving computers--cell phones, game consoles, PDAs, entertainment centers, servers, embedded systems, online services, streaming media. The only way to be sure that they remain successful is to try to get in early in everything.

In other words, Microsoft intends to be the next Microsoft.

It's their new strategy

[core plexus]

As I wrote yesterday M$ new strategy?, it's their new strategy. And today I read this:

Why Microsoft was right about Linux

" Linux on Intel-based computers is now likely to become the dominant platform in corporate data centers, according to a recent report from investment bank Goldman Sachs. That puts even more pressure on Microsoft to persuade Unix users to stick with its Windows operating system on Intel systems rather than move to Linux. (That's no easy feat these days.) Indeed, if it fails to stop the groundswell, Microsoft may be forced to radically rethink its strategy as none of the company's server platform products now run on Linux. One scenario offered by analysts at First Boston has Microsoft switching gears and supporting Linux on key subsystems like Exchange and SQL Server and the .Net framework. And then there's the IBM factor to consider." Not much new there, but some details in the article ARE new and interesting.

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Re:MS wins at Linux?

[slutdot]

It's basically tools that allow a Windows server to access UNIX servers or vice versa. It contains a Telnet server, an NFS client and server, better support for lpr printing and so on.

We had it installed on one of our servers in order to talk to an AIX box via NFS. We got rid of it in favor of Hummingbird's product.

services for unix

[Anonymous Coward]

OK, a serious question about Services for Unix, that got a definite "maybe" on an Interix newsgroup:

Now that Services for Unix includes the formerly separate "Interix" product (which as I understand it is a POSIX-compliant sub-system for win2k), is it possible to run X Windows and a window manager and *still* run native Win32 apps from the window manager (and have them behave reasonably)?

I was trying to get a demo of Interix to try it, but I couldn't...

Services for Unix is not Open Source

[truthsearch]

I'm confused. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/howtobuy/defa ult.asp. How can a non-open source product win an open source excellence award? Some of the basic utilities are GPL. The product requires per-seat and/or per-server licensing and licenses for each person who connects. That's a proprietary license.

Re:Services for Unix is not Open Source

[stratjakt]

Because it's a LinuxWorld expo, not an Open Source expo.

Many of the most compelling products for linux are proprietary.

Wasn't XF86V4.3 supposed to be out?

[wowbagger]

Weren't XFree supposed to release V4.3 of XFree86 at this show?

Re:Microsoft wins

[justins]

You've got to be fucking kidding.

Services for Unix is a sorry joke, pretty much the only thing it's got going for it is an NFS implementation for win32. In every other way, Cygwin and Uwin are superior.

It raises an interesting question though: how come nobody has done an open-source implementation of NFS for win32?

HP Laotop w/Linux

[civad]

>> Please, HP people, can we have Linux laptops? In case HP people dont know: HP Pavillion ze4200 is what I could call a "Linux-ready" laptop (I intionally put it in qoutes). One thing though: so far only Mandrake 9.0 works perfectly. Theonly thingI havent been able to check so far is the modem (though I doubt it will work)