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Australia May Adopt DMCA-Style Copyright Regime

beaver1024 writes "Australia, desperate to garner more U.S. trade, has indicated that it is willing to follow a more stringent regime for protecting copyright. This follows attempts by MediaForce to force Australian ISPs to comply with U.S. DMCA provisions. I fear that due to the current Australian government's weak spineless nature, the harsh provisions of the DMCA will soon arrive in the land down under."

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  1. This is just great by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since America, Europe and Australia all have trade agreements I can expect that the dmca like laws will never go away.

    If the dmca is appealed then the RIAA will bust you under the UUCD( Europe's dmca) and if that is appealed then you will be tried under Australia's laws. Why? Your committing a world corporate espionage which is protected under trade treaties.

    So no matter what your fucked.

    Dont believe me? Look at Jon Johnson. Through world internation commerce espionage laws he was tried by an American law. These trade laws were written to catch crooked while collar crooks and corrupt ceo's but lawyers who love to twist things now interpret it as an international law. What is scary about the EU is that its not a democracy and there are no checks or balances unlike Australia or the United States. It will stay forever and will the world under one master law.

    1. Re:This is just great by LarsG · · Score: 2, Informative

      If the dmca is appealed then the RIAA will bust you under the UUCD( Europe's dmca)

      EUCD, also known as Infosoc or 2001/29/EC.

      Dont believe me? Look at Jon Johnson. Through world internation commerce espionage laws he was tried by an American law.

      I assume you're talking about Mr. Johansen? If so, he was tried by Norwegian law. Pre-EUCD Norwegian law.

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  2. PM's Email Address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I guess now would be a good time to have his email address, so I can tell him just how I feel on this matter. Oh well, the form at http://www.pm.gov.au/your_feedback/feedback.htm will have to do.

  3. Re:Aus Govenment weak willed by DanUltra · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree with you entirely, except for the DVD bit.

    Region-free DVD players are perfectly legal anywhere, so long as the person distributing them region-free hasn't signed the CSS license.

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  4. This sucks... by chriskenrick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Australia already has an equivalent of the DMCA, in terms of circumventing access controls and so on. In Australia, there are no fair use clauses for duplicating your own CDs (except software), or even for videotaping from TV. And now this, which will just hamper ISPs and make it cost more for them to do their job. Typical weak Aussie government bending to the slightest hint of international pressure. On these rare occasions, I wish I lived in a country that valued individual freedom a bit more highly compared to corporate interests.

  5. Australia's equivalent to EFF... by harikiri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out Electronic Frontiers Australia, our equivalent to the EFF.

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  6. Australian "fair dealing" is more narrow than US's by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    opyright.org.au doesn't seem to even consider fair use at all, so I don't see how you can immediately conclude that there aren't any

    TV programs: home taping (PDF)

    I cannot reproduce the text here, but suffice it to say that Australian copyright law's "fair dealing" exemption is limited primarily to "research or study" and does not apply to home video taping of a copyrighted work of the sort commonplace in the United States of America after Sony v. Universal established the "Betamax Doctrine".

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  7. Re:DAMN! by more+fool+you · · Score: 3, Informative
  8. DMCA takedown letters going beyond law... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    The DMCA letters being sent to ISPs go too far. They are not just demanding that the ISP stop the customer from sharing, but they are demanding that the ISP sever all business relationship with the customer.

    This became apparent when one of the ISPs in Australia refused to comply, and went public. They showed the contents of the letter, which included the demand of immediate halt of the customer's sharing, but also the immediate cessation and severing of all business relationship with the account (identified by ip address/date/time/files/etc.)

    Here's the exact quote:

    Since you own this IP address, we request that you immediately do the following:
    1) Disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct described above; and 2) Terminate any and all accounts that this individual has through you.


    This goes far beyond so called "copyright infringement". This is a punitive action made by a very embittered (and according to their own sales figures, very greedy) RIAA/MPAA.

    As someone who's had their dsl plug pulled on three days notice, and have been waiting more than three weeks for a new dsl provider to get permission and get switched on from the local telco, I can tell you from first hand experience the problem this causes.

    If one of my children downloads and installs a p2p program, and keeps the defaults as installed, I get to have my plug pulled? All of my web sites taken down? My email server cut off? My remote users cut off? My dns server that other networks rely on as a second dns server shut down?

    A careful review of the users of the p2p programs would show that the majority of the users are children. As defined in the US, children are under the age of 18. As defined by many of the "save the children" advocacy groups, children are under 19, under 21, under 25.

    I've been working on getting a CD burner working on my computer, but have had problems because of the unusual ide/scsi multiple hard drive setup I have. So it is not working under gnu/linux, and I've been making coasters under windows. I have a large collection of music which I own. Does the fact that I can download the same music that I own so I can listen on my computer/car cd player disallow me from downloading this music? I have the originals, just need them in a different medium. This is known as fair use. Will a default/misconfiguration of a p2p application cost me my entire net connection? Is this what was envisioned by the senators and congressmen when they signed the DMCA bill? Was this the intent of the law?

    An internet connection is viewed in the US as a necessity now. Schools are handing out assignments that include mandatory internet research. Those that don't have a connection are expected to go to the library or make arrangements with the teacher. But now the MPAA/RIAA are allowed to demand that the ISP pull the plug? On no or short notice? Library hours are being curtailed due to budget constraints everywhere. Libraries open on Sunday are unusual, and becomming more so. Saturday hours and night hours are being curtailed as well. Getting your children to the library is not an easy thing for a single parent or two parent family where both parents work. So the MPAA/RIAA get to pull my plug because their automated computer thinks I'm sharing copyrighted works?

    Who reimburses me when my child's school project named after a copyrighted title shows up as a dmca violation, my plug gets pulled, and I lose customers for web sites/co-location hosting/email services/voicemail services/backup services because I can't get another dsl connection running right away? Or the downtime with ip propagation through the dns servers to the root servers with the new ip addresses of the new isp account because the old isp complied with the sever all business demand by the mpaa/riaa?

    As I read the DMCA act, it says that the isp must stop the sharing. I haven't read that it says that all business must be severed with the customer. Yet the mpaa/riaa are demanding this of isps. If you were a small time isp, would you comply or fight their lawyers? So you keep the connection and face mpaa/riaa lawyers, and more enforcement action/attention by them and the bsa, or you pull the plug and face a remote possibility of a lawsuit from a user. Which would you choose?

    Any changes to the DMCA law must include a prohibition on allowing the mpaa/riaa to demand that all business relationship be severed. It must only include the means necessary of stopping the "infringing" use, and the customer must be given the opportunity to respond prior to the plug getting pulled.

    My plug was pulled. I suspect it was a DMCA demand that caused the plug to be pulled. But a different, unrelated excuse was used to pull the plug. In the meantime, I had three days notice. What would you do, fight it out with an isp that wants to disconnect you? Or hurry up and find another isp so that you could get your revenue producing content back online? Are all of your internet travels really within your isp's tos? Including your posts to slashdot? ISPs, if necessary, have enough loopholes to disconnect you within their terms of service so that if they get a takedown letter, they simply pull the plug rather than deal with any legal issues.

    Since my local telco doesn't allow servers on their dsl connection, and since they require that the service be disconnected before another dsl reseller can place an order for service, and since the order for service takes anywhere from one to three weeks, there is no way of avoiding a several week downtime. And my local telco is the local telco for most of the northeast, and most of the east coast of the US.

    It's easy to say don't allow the p2p use. But when you have pre-teen and teen children on your connection, you'll think differently. And if I "share" a number of files, yet firewall off the files so that they can be seen as being shared, yet can't be uploaded from my server, that does not violate the dmca, yet would result in a dmca takedown letter. No files were uploaded from my server to anyone else's computer, they can't be. Yet the way that the mpaa/riaa is scanning for shared files, they "see" the files as being shared, and that results in a takedown letter. So I'm not violating any law, yet the riaa/mpaa get to pull my plug and cause me economic harm?

    I have some limited technical knowledge. Try explaining this to a small business owner, or someone who relies on email, internet access, and some reason (web server, vpn, mail server, etc) for a dsl connection for work. They get their plug pulled and are disconnected for 2-3 weeks or longer while they scramble to find a new dsl provider because the mpaa/riaa is looking for revenge and twisting the dmca law to their benefit? Cable isn't an option as a backup, as they don't allow vpn, and don't allow servers. A second dsl provider involves extra cost, and a separate additional phone line, or line drop, and it still involves ip number/dns interruption.

    Changes to the dmca law need to be made to prohibit this vindictive behavior by the entertainment cartel. A net connection is no longer viewed in our society as a luxury. It is a necessity. No one should have the right to completely pull the plug on someone's connection. There are steps that can be taken to prevent copyrighted file sharing. Pulling the plug is an unconscionable action on behalf of a very bitter, vindictive cartel, and exposes them for who they really are.

    The Verizon court case, where the entertainment cartel are attempting to ascertain the identity of a file sharer is a case in point. They state that they want to find out the identity of the person so that they can "tell them what they are doing is illegal". Really? Wanna bet they want that plug pulled and want the isp to "sever all business relationship" with that person?

    Those outside the US, those in Australia, take this lesson to heart. When the laws in your country are being fought out, make sure the above situation is not allowed to happen as a matter of law. The entertainment cartels will look for any advantage they can get. You need to be equally vigilant that your legislators protect your rights. And speak up. Or you will also lose in the end.

    Here is the full information on the DMCA takedown letter, and I believe the story above is linking to it also, although the story link may be a higher level link. My link goes direct to the letter and background.

    This is a re-posting of an original post I made. I don't like to do this, but it is more relevant here, than at the original location several days ago. Here's the story location of the previous post for full disclosure, and here's the original post. Please don't mod this down, as this is a real world example of someone hurt by the DMCA, and is very relevant to the current topic. If you agree and have a mod point to spare, I would appreciate it. Thank you.

    The entertainment cartel have declared war on us. We are all on the firing line right now and are taking casualties. Good luck to us all. We are going to need it.
  9. Re:Aus Govenment weak willed by LarsG · · Score: 2, Informative

    Region-free DVD players are perfectly legal anywhere, so long as the person distributing them region-free hasn't signed the CSS license.

    Once a significant percentage of the EU countries have implemented the EUCD, I expect the movie barons to try to shut down region free players.

    Oh, and don't try to import DVD movies from outside EU after the EUCD goes operative. Article 4.2, community exhaustion.

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  10. Re:DAMN! by mikerich · · Score: 2, Informative
    *cries* oh it's true... it's so true... boooohoooo we're nothing but arse kissers!

    Hey come on! Us Brits have precious little to be proud of (whole of Australia nods in unison), but Tony Blair's sensational record of kissing the USAian arse has been unchallenged.

    Until now.

    Please don't take this last achievement away from Britain - aren't The Ashes enough for you?

    Best wishes,
    Mike.

  11. Have you tried? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Have you actually tried obtaining one through US distribution channels?

    1. Go to buy.com.

    2. Buy Sampo DVE112

    3. Power on

    4. Press open button

    5. Key in 330880

    6. Power off

    7. Enjoy player that now plays DVDs from any region.

    [...]

    8. Profit!!!

  12. This isn't a surprise by mjj12 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sadly, we have known this was on the cards for a while, and one or two people who work in government in Canberra have mentioned it to me. Australia wants a free trade deal with the US, and particularly in agriculture. In return for this, we have to go along with what US trade negotiators want on issues like intellectual property, and the US government is in Hollywood's pocket on this.

  13. The Actual Problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The actual problem with unjust laws in the US is that Americans are too lax about knowing their rights. The Jury in any trial or Grand Jury has rights and abilites far beyond the judge or prosecutor. We would not have so many unjust laws if citizens knew their power to disregard the instructions of the court and the resulting FULL and FINAL veto power over acts of legislature (laws). The government is here to service us, not the other way around and we have the final say in which laws are upheld in the courts.

    If you get a summons for duty, don't aviod it... you may be passing up the ability to reject and unjust law... perhaps it will be a DMCA case itself! Just don't let the judge or prosecutor know you are aware of your veto/nullification power becuase they will strike you every time, it's your moral duty and perogative to lie when they ask the question. "Have you read anything about jury nullification?"

    If you are unaware of your rights as a Juror then see this page:
    http://www.fija.org/juror-handbook.htm

    Phoenix

  14. Re:Like most garbage... by praksys · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd like to think so too - but NZ politicians like the idea of NZ turning into a "knowledge economy", and they almost certainly think that stricter ip laws will be required for that to happen.

    Take a look here for a look at the bright future offered by the "knowledge economy":

    http://www.med.govt.nz/pbt/infotech/knowledge_ec on omy/

    Take a look here to see what that might require:

    http://www.med.govt.nz/buslt/int_prop/digital/po si tion/position-11.html#P563_140517

    Where you will find this little tidbit:

    H. WIPO Internet Treaties

    36. The Ministry recommends making any changes to the Act as a result of the current review in a way that benefits New Zealand, whilst enabling our compliance with relevant aspects of the WIPO Internet Treaties. Views are sought on New Zealand's possible accession to these treaties.