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P2P File Sharing Could Cost You A Bundle
geekee writes "CNET posted an article claiming you could be liable for $250,000 in fines and up to 3 years in prison for p2p file sharing. This is due to an obscure law called the No Electronic Theft (NET) act passed in 1997 (signed by Bill Clinton). Although the Justice Department has not prosecuted anyone under this new law, some members of congress have asked John Ashcroft to begin prosecuting. In response to the request, John Malcolm, a deputy assistant attorney general, said to expect some NET Act prosecutions."
Just don't take my porn!!!
Long live heather brooke.
woot.
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
(signed by Bill Clinton)
Under the new version of the bill, signed by George Bush, violaters will be declared "enemy combatants", will be stripped of all rights and will be held for life on the Guantanamo Bay military base.
I'm moving to Russia where it's more free.
Everytime there is any mention of peer-to-peer, the same old arguements get trotted out 'it's stealing', 'the RIAA deserves it', 'musicians are getting screwed', 'yeah, by the RIAA'.
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Maybe just read the Kaaza article from last week, and if a viewpoint is not mentioned there, then post. But there is only so many times the same arguements can...
Oh, right I'm on
Nevermind.
I'll go to jail for what I believe in. .. said the anonymous coward.
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
Did you put "loose" in quotes because you couldn't spell it, or you weren't sure what it meant? Kiddo, you need to spend less time on Kazaa, and more with a good book.
" It doesn't matter if you've forsworn Napster, uninstalled Kazaa and now are eagerly padding the record industry's bottom line by snapping up $15.99 CDs by the cartload. Be warned--you're what prosecutors like to think of as an unindicted federal felon."
So in essence, theres no reason for me to stop, now that I've already started.
"CNET posted an article claiming you could be liable for $250,000 in fines and up to 3 years in prison for p2p file sharing"
Good thing I'm a leecher!
Bill Gates appeared before Congress today to propose the .NET Act of 2003, which would impose a fine of up to $250,000 for running a pirated version of Windows.
Of course the Swiss don't have this problem. Their government REQUIRES them each to have a machine gun (or some other piece of large-scale military nastiness) handy. B-)
...
Well, a little red knife, anyway.
Or the big red knife:
- Tiny little scisors
- Tiny little screwdriver
- Tiny little tommygun
- Tiny little satelite uplink
- Tiny little antitank missile
- Tiny little tactical nuke
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
In the case of <ahem> some people I know, it'd be cheaper to pay the $250,000 fine.
OK. You're right. So you and the other person sharing only uncopyrighted works have nothing to worry about!
Yeah. The news story would be covering your free side trip to Guantanimo Bay. Or maybe not.
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Well if you're going to be that pushy about it, we're also a theocracy. :P
"One nation, under God..."
Please mod parent way up. According to the link he posted, the whole Internet Privacy act is a JOKE, yet a crapload of arguably-legal sites appear to be using it. If i was a law enforcement agent, i would search google for "431.322.12" and go on a shopping spree.
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I'm looking forward to blowing this bullshit law off the books with my 1337 lawyer team that I will pay with the book/movie royalties that I'll buy when I sell my story to...
D'oh.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
That's it! I'm moving to Canada.
Volunteer Mozilla developer, RPI Student.
So in essence, theres no reason for me to stop, now that I've already started.
No, there is. IIRC, there's a three year statute of limiations on copyright violations, criminal or civl. (IANAL, duh)
Stop _right now_, and the chances of you getting smacked for P2P start decreasing by 0.09% every day.
Price of a empty CD: 1.5$
Price of a CD: 18$
Buy a CD writer: 150$
Buy a PC to do P2P: 1000$
illegal P2P usage: 250.000$
Living outside the US: PRICELESS!
(disclaimer: this is humor and does not mean I am a illegal P2P user
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
Any real geek would be at his workstation until dawn. He would hear the FBI bust down the door and have more than enough time to scramble a fdisk command into the console.
In 2001, a 21-year-old Michigan man named Brian Baltutat was successfully prosecuted under the NET Act for posting a mere 142 software programs on the "Hacker Hurricane" Web site.
'Mere'?
I didn't even know that there were 142 software programs out there worth stealing...
~Idarubicin
First, in re: the NET Act, what is the "retail value" of an out-of-print title? My assumption is that it is zero, otherwise the record co., in this case CBS/Sony, would market it.
I think you've really got something there. It wouldn't take much to convince a jury and a judge that the value of those mp3s is $0.00 simply because it's out of print.
Cross examining the label, "Why is this CD out of print?" "Because it wouldn't be financially benefitial to print it" "Are you saying that it would cost more to print the CD than it would make?" "Yes"
Then while questioning you, "I understood you burned these mp3s to a CD?" "Yes" "How much did that cost you?" "50 cents" "It cost you 50 cents to create this CD?" "Yes"
In summation, "You've heard testimony that it would cost more to print the CD than they'd make selling it. My client printed this CD for 50 cents. These mp3s are worth less than 50 cents.. I'd say my client is guilty! Guilty of stealing 50 cents. I implore the jury to right this injustice, and demand that my client pay back that 50 cents to the record label"
The precedent set would be wonderful.
Yes, the Swiss had a public referendum on joining the UN. It won in a squeaker: 12 cantons (like US states) for, 11 cantons against.
Yeah, but that last canton had a huge number of disputed votes mistakenly cast for Pat Buchanan!
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I watched it happen before -- the Scientologists use this technical extensively. The idea of a lawsuit, according to Hubbard, was not to win, but to harrass, to intimidate, to bankrupt, to exhaust, to ruin. In advanced cases, the broken victim can even be brought on board the attacker's cause, as a requirement for cessation of legal attacks. Oh, and gag clauses for the poor schmuck is standard as well.
You've just slandered the Church! We'll see you in court. Have a nice day.
-- I bent my Wookie
Recall Sun's case against Kevin Mitnick. Steal something that is either $100 or free, depending on the customer, and get charged with $8,000,000 in damages. Lawyer math, man. It's a secret class colleges only let you into after you fail every single mathematics course they offer.
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WinXP does support encrypted file systems. How secure is it though?
Damn, wish I had mod points. That definitely rates a +1 funny!
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
A surefire way [no guarantees etc.] to avaid prosecution: Change your Kazaa Username to "Bobby-Sue," "Stargurl," or "Spiceworld47893."
Basically anything that suggests you're a blonde, pretty teenage girl. There's no fucking way the RIAA et al. are going to sue someone like that; the publicity would decimate them.
Oh... you might have to stop sharing all those German Leather Dungeon mpegs, though, just to keep up the facade.
Although, who the fuck knows what teenage girls are into these days...
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
---Speaking about DDOS and IRC, either IRC will adapt and stand DDOS easily or new generation (decetralized one) will be based on something else. Perhaps Jabber? Or Gnutella?
Or how about RBL's? It goes something like this:
Admin 1: "What's this weird netblock doing in the OC-9 cisco table? And why's it getting bit-bucketed???"
Admin 2: "It's the new IP's for the weekly RIAA netflood"
Admin 1: "Then why arent we switching the dest/src fields? heh heh"
Admin 2: "Yeah, give it back at-em"
I'm curious how it works in other countries
in our red china, they lift your hands, and say: "Hey, this guy vote yes!"
Oh, yes we do.
The owls are not what they seem
It's not slander if it's true (be ready to prove it). The facts are never slander, it's reporting.
Saying your mother wears army boots when she doesn't is slander.
Saying your mother wears army boots when she does is not slander, it's fact.
The truth shall set you free!