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Parsec To Be Released As Open Source

Mark Bainter writes "The Parsec creators have announced today that they are going to release the Parsec project source code early next month. From the site: 'The source release will include platform support for Win32, MacOS X, and Linux, and contain both OpenGL and Glide rendering code. It will include almost everything that has been part of the earlier LAN-Test releases, as well as our new client/server code that is already far along in development. However, it is our hope that this release will be picked up by the Parsec community for further development, supported by members of the original Parsec Project. This release will be the last official release of the original Parsec Project. It had been our intention to achieve a full-featured release including Internet game play in 2002. However, we were always doing this in our spare time, and since it is taking us too long to reach our original goal, we do not want to keep the Parsec community waiting any longer and have thus decided that it is time to change Parsec's development model to an open source approach.'"

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  1. woah! by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's next? A Duke Nukem Forever release? I remember checking out this site back before I ever got the 3D acceleration working on FreeBSD. I'd always figured they were going the same route as Stars! Supernova Genesis. It's great to see that it's going to be Open Source as well. It'll be great to play something beyond the ancient LAN demo.

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    1. Re:woah! by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Funny
      Speaking of DNF: That one should be open sourced too, if only to get rid of all the whining and old jokes about it.

      So, what about it, 3D Realms? Open the code, we'll finish the game for you ;)

      *ducks and runs away*

    2. Re:woah! by RichardX · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Speaking of DNF"

      Somewhat ironic.. I read that as "Did Not Finish" (as in failed to reach the end of a race).. then a moment later realised it's Duke Nukem Forever.

      Perhaps a little too convenient of a coincidence?

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  2. Glide? by ruiner13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone still use Voodoo cards? Do they work with win2k or XP?

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  3. This isn't Parsec by 1984 · · Score: 5, Funny

    There I go, getting all excited that the classic TI99/4a sideways scrolling shoot-em up is going to made open source. So I'd have a chance to see the workings of one the games that perverted my early development. Alas it's some fancy-schmancy 3D number. New fangled nonsense...

    1. Re:This isn't Parsec by PsychoKiller · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think my parents still have mine in their basement. Ahh, those were the days, programming in basic and praying that the tape (a regular audio tape) recorded your information properly. I even had the speech synthesizer, and there was a mountain climber game that used it a lot, Alpine was the name I think, that was fun.

      You can get emulators here (there is even a Linux version):

      http://www.ricks-graphics.co.uk/area99/links.htm

  4. finally! by blaine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been watching this project with anticipation for years, but it's always been "almost ready". That, and the guys running it had what seemed an unnatural fear of open source. Their argument against in in the past was basically "we don't want outside help, so no open source". As if opening the source meant they had to accept changes. It was very strange.

    So yeah. Yay! Maybe we'll see a finished game finally. It definately has the potential to be a kickass game.

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    1. Re:finally! by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Interesting
      They had no unnatural fear of open source. If they really feared open source, they wouldn't have made linux binaries available at all. If I remember correctly, they wanted to make a solid base for the game first, and later decide if they were going open source (for whatever reason).

      Clearly, they both haven't got the time to maintain it, and they don't want to see the project die. Open sourcing it is the natural choice to let it live forever.

      We should thank these guys, they gave us (the OSS community) a very cool and spiffy looking 3D space engine to muck with. I'll sure be mucking with it.

  5. Announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Parsec Goes Open Source!

    January 28, 2003 -- We are currently preparing the entire code base of Parsec for a full source release in early May 2003, which will mark a major change in the structure of the Parsec Project.
    The source release will include platform support for Win32, MacOS X, and Linux, and contain both OpenGL and Glide rendering code. It will include almost everything that has been part of the earlier LAN-Test releases, as well as our new client/server code that is already far along in development. However, it is our hope that this release will be picked up by the Parsec community for further development, supported by members of the original Parsec Project.

    This release will be the last official release of the original Parsec Project. It had been our intention to achieve a full-featured release including Internet game play in 2002. However, we were always doing this in our spare time, and since it is taking us too long to reach our original goal, we do not want to keep the Parsec community waiting any longer and have thus decided that it is time to change Parsec's development model to an open source approach.

    We intend the official Parsec webpage to become the central hub for playing Parsec and continuing Parsec development. We would like to dedicate the upcoming release to the Parsec community, and hope that Parsec will live on and prosper as an open community project. Enjoy!

    The Parsec Project

    Parsec is a fast-paced non-commercial network space-shooter that has been in development for several years. It started out in 1996 as a lab project at the Vienna University of Technology, but has transcended its original roots to become what we would like to refer to as commercial-quality freeware (CQF).
    The major releases of Parsec up to now were several versions of the Parsec LAN-Test, which were intended to enable players to get a glimpse of the current state of Parsec's development. These releases support Win32, MacOS, MacOS X, and Linux platforms, and 3D hardware acceleration through OpenGL and Glide (for the old 3dfx boards).

    The Parsec Project, a term we also use to refer to the people behind Parsec, is the team of game developers that has been working on Parsec since 1996. However, the impending change of Parsec's development model to an open source approach will be closing the original Parsec Project in early May 2003.

    Beginning in May 2003, Parsec will be an open community project striving toward a Parsec release that also includes Internet game play. The members of the original Parsec Project would like to dedicate their work to the Parsec community, and hope that the open source version of Parsec will bring lots of fun to even more people around the globe!

  6. Now I just need to Remake Elite by szyzyg · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Parsec game engine should prove a nice basis to re-create the 8/16 bit classic elite in noughties style.

    Then again maybe Christian will get around to releasing his dark-kind source sooner.

  7. Gripe... by YellowElectricRat · · Score: 5, Informative

    I mean really - how hard would it be to put a one line description about what the Parsec project is in the article body?

    Parsec project: Fast-paced multiplayer cross-platform 3D Internet space combat

    There... That didn't hurt too much, did it?

    1. Re: Gripe... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful


      > I mean really - how hard would it be to put a one line description about what the Parsec project is in the article body?

      One of the things that really irks me at Sourceforge is when you pull a list of all the games under development they tend to tell you what language they're programming in and what gee-whiz rendering technology they're going to use, but don't say the first word about what the game is.

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  8. There is no safe distance! by imac.usr · · Score: 5, Funny
    I downloaded one of the tests for the Mac a long, long time ago. Gameplay seemed intriguing, but what really hooked me was the music by Stefan Poiss (I play the three tracks on my MP3 player over and over). Anybody know if there's other tracks available by him? I haven't checked the site in a while and it seems to be well and truly slashdotted now.

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  9. Which ship made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs. by duckpoopy · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, not the Enterprise.

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  10. The obvious question by vlad_petric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why did they wait so much to release it as open source? I'm just wondering if their initial plan wasn't to change from Freeware to Commercial at some point. They've most likely realised that they won't be able to make money out of it, and decided to opensource it so it doesn't die (a site that wasn't updated for almost a year can be considered a near-death experience). Anyway, they did do a great job and I'm glad that the opensource gaming is enriched with a free-as-in-beer space shooter.

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  11. First thing to be changed now that it's open... by ksheka · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is those pesky .mp3 sound files will be replaced by remastered .ogg files. :-)

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  12. Re:So there you have it by feed_me_cereal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I kinda agree with you about opensource games, at least, open-source games that tons of people are working on. A large group seems to suck all the creativity out of a game, but why are you bashing Parsec so soon? They JUST made their game opensource today. It hasn't failed yet. I'm kind of skeptical, but I'm willing to give it a chance. Hell, I'm considering joining the project.

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  13. VegaStrike by sweeze · · Score: 5, Informative

    but how does this compare to VegaStrike, which is already open sourced ( and written by a friend of mine , shameless plug )

  14. Re:Parsec for TI cartridge computer by Zirnike · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, to get you started, http://www.ricks-graphics.co.uk/area99/emulate.htm , which gives details on an emulator, and http://www.ticomputer.net/tisi.html which seems to be an emulator itself (haven't tried yet, and the english is either somewhat broken (or at least really oddly phrased) or I'm _way_ the heck too tired)

    I can't find anyplace to download the ROM, and even if I grab my old TI, I'm not sure how to grab the ROM image, anyway.

    FOr the curious:

    PARSEC: PHM 3112 - Released 3Q/1982 - MSRP $39.95 -- A game cartridge programmed by James E. Dramis with help from TI Summer employee Paul Urbanus (Urbanus also authored or co-authored Jumpy, Jungle Hunt, Pole Position, Disko, PLATO Interpreter, Grand RAM and Line-by-Line Assembler for Mini Memory). Released in August 1982 at a retail price of $39.95. Featured a synthesized voice patterned after that of college student Aubree Anderson. Game consisted of a Space ship traveling through asteroid belts, attacks by Alien ships and other hazards. Perhaps the most popular game ever to come out of the Texas Instruments Consumer Products Division for the 99/4A. Fully bit mapped graphics, excellent joystick control, clear speech synthesis and very challenging.

    User Comments: Fly into combat with the starship Parsec. Destroy rebel alien fighters and cruisers by out maneuvering them and laying down withering fire from you laser. Then try to survive the deadly asteroid belt. Parsec is made to work with or without the speech synthesizer. With it, it enhances the game by simulating an onboard computer in your starship. It warns you of oncoming alien craft and refueling tunnels, and it congratulates you for good performance. There are increasing levels of difficulty to challenge your strategy and skills as a starfighter. With great graphics, color, and action this is one of the best modules for the TI. Try it and you're hooked.

    (ref: http://timeline.99er.net/id22.htm)

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  15. Re:Now, now... by Osty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and yet, here you are.

    You seem to have no other response, lately.


    Could you maybe once address your users' concerns? It may be a little difficult for you to grasp, but the real world is not black and white. Liking a site does not mean that a person doesn't have opinions on what's good or bad about how a site is run, just as a person may dislike a site yet still believe it is doing some things right (for example, Kuro5hin -- I dislike the site because of the extreme leftist/socialist viewpoint espoused by both the staff and the readers/contributors, but I think it's a very well-done site and is run much better than Slashdot). Here's a thought -- run a poll along the lines of, "Do you have any gripes with the way we run Slashdot? Yes/No" and see what happens. Now, take the number of "Yes" answers and assume those are users that would leave Slashdot if they followed your implicit advice. Where does that leave your userbase? What about the comments (ie, the lifeblood of Slashdot -- without comments, Slashdot would never have become popular in the first place), since the people who are likely to answer a poll are also likely to post a comment? Can you afford to lose such a large chunk of users (and make no mistake, you will get a large number of "yes" answers so long as the question is worded fairly)?


    We're not necessarily asking that you change anything (although I'm sure most of us wouldn't mind if the Slashdot editors would periodically read their own site to avoid duplicates, or run their stories through a spelling checker before posting). Simply acknowledge that you've heard our problems, and explain to us why you're not planning on changing anything if the concerns are valid (and no side-stepping, saying something along the lines of, "Slashdot is just Rob's personal site that happens to enjoy some popularity"). Is that so hard to do? Apparently, because all we get are one-liner comments that insult ("you must be an idiot if you have problems with the management and yet are still here") or ignore the problems.

  16. But What Licence by BadlandZ · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I read it, and I must be missing something. I re-read it. I still missed it. What licence will it use? Unless it's a clear licence, viewing the source may not be helpful.

    What if they don't allow people to submit patches? What if they won't let you use the source to fork off your own project because they retain some rights to it? What good is seeing the source then?

    Open source just means you can see thier code, and CQF doesn't really mean anything to me. Can someone point me to some info that may make the meaning of this announcement a little clearer to me?

  17. Re:So there you have it by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Another observation: a large group might suck, but many small groups might make something cool. Perhaps not as cool as StarCraft, but cool nonetheless...
    You can separate the game engine from the graphics, sound, and everything is modular. I've seen a couple interesting open-source 3D engines, and I think it's VERy possible that a good game or several will come out eventually.
    The bad part: it takes forever, because virtually nobody has the time to create a Doom 3 in their free time. Or even a Commander Keen. As one guy says,
    Software development is one hundred percent design
    You need vision to create a great game, and large open source projects tend not to have that vision. Is that why there aren't any great games built by large open source collaboration? Maybe. I think it's more likely attributable to the clone problem .. nothing truly new is being created by the commons. Would you rather read a sci-fi novel written by forty people, or one written by somebody with a burning vision (Asimov, Heinlein, etc)?

    Also check out http://home.t-online.de/home/BuschnicK/
  18. You know it's been in development too long when... by bgeer · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know you've been in the development cycle too long when you release a game in 2003 and the spec blurb talks about GLIDE support.

  19. Yay! First Golgotha, now THIS!!! by eGabriel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Soon my hard drive will be chock full of source code from half done games! As soon as I am up to speed on the state of the art of gaming 5 years ago, I plan to finish these suckers!

    Or play nethack. I still have never ascended.

  20. Your offer is... by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Funny
    You can have my Parsec when you unwrap my cold, dead fingers from around it...

    ...acceptable...

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  21. correction by cbx · · Score: 5, Informative

    We are going to do a full source release in early May 2003 NOT next month as stated in the article.
    This is mainly due to some preperation work.

  22. Space combat by Harald74 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone else tired of the "battleship model" of space combat, with heavily armed and armoured ships duking it out, taking multiple hits before finally succumbing to accumulated damage?

    I figure space combat will be more similar to submarine combat. Space is huge, the ships will be fragile, weapons will pack a massive punch. These factors will force ships to rely on sensors, hiding and avoidance to achieve their aims.

    I imagine that we will have ships hiding in asteriod belts, on moons and near planets, patiently waiting for their prey, unleashing a barrage of missiles and then try to disappear again while the target is busy applying countermeasures to the incoming missile swarm.

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