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Apple and Linux Beneficial to Each Other?
viewstyle writes "There is an interesting commentary on eWEEK discussing the 'synergies' between Apple and Linux after visiting LinuxWorld. It makes a good point that advancement of Linux is good for Mac OS X and vice versa, because of the ease of porting across the platforms (soon to get easier with the X11 on Mac OS X)." Next thing you know, most of the Slashdot editors and programmers will be using Macs ...
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Who gives a fuck about APPLE --- enough with the shitty stories you child rapists!
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Yonder lies the promise land, O dearly beloved, AMD, Intel, Windows XP! Uncle Steve has kept you captive long enough with his illusions and delusions!
Read "the writing on the wall" and like "where is the beef"? Go to Motorola's web site you will find no beef! If it causes you worry just accept it! peruse the Apple web sites, no beef, just dreams and wishful thinking!
Where is the proof of a G5, in reality it does not exit!
In the world of Intel, AMD, WINDOWS progress is a fast pace fact of life you have what is called tangible, Apple you have dreams and wishful thinking, and there is also bitterness and pc envy! PC s ridiculed and scoffed at by the mac community, now becoming a source of envy!
Beloved be no longer captive to delusions of the most modern, fastest supercomputers ever invented, but at least capitalize off of Apple's demise with some options trading! Turn those sour Apples into a hefty wad of cash! Do a little research. That hundred million bushels of sour rotting Apples can make you a fortune and real goose that lays the golden egg! Do some research on options trading, get your accounts open and rake in those bucks! Thank you AAPL for becoming a penny stock!!!
Repeal the DMCA!
I already have a reason to never own a windows machine again. I call it "Mr. iBook." Hell- this "Mr. iBook" of which I speak has also given me a reason to never waste my time with Linux again. Imagine that! Two birds with one beautiful white stone!
Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
Apple laptops are effectively unusable for unix users.
I am a long-time Unix user. That means I need to have the Ctrl key to the left of the A key. This is a genuine need, not merely a want; it is based upon ergonomics. The Ctrl key is heavily used in unix, and it must be easily accessable. It cannot be off in the lower left corner of the keyboard where it is difficult to get at, and where it distorts the position of your left hand such that you can't easily type other keys while holding the Ctrl key down.
Apple desktop keyboards are now all USB. They are all OK. The CapsLock key can be re-mapped into a Ctrl key.
Unfortunately, even in this modern age, all Apple laptops have built-in ADB keyboards. The ADB keyboard is broken-by-design. It is, in general, not possible to remap the CapsLock key into a Ctrl key.
There are some exceptions, but they are horrible kludges. They are horrible kludges because the original design of the ADB keyboard was a horrible kludge. The correct solution would be for Apple to re-design their laptop motherboards to use built-in USB keyboards. This hasn't happened yet. If you run Linux, use Debian's solution. For Mac OS X users, uControl works. There are no solutions (that I know of) for either NetBSD or OpenBSD. Please note once again that the "solutions" above are in fact kludges, because of the original bad design of the ADB keyboard.
Apple provides a technical note on how to remap the keyboard, but provides no solution to the hardware problems caused by the design of the ADB keyboard. This tech note helps foreign language users, but does nothing for the CapsLock/Ctrl problem.
Apple is (currently) ignoring Unix users! This is not merely speculation on my part. In an on-going email exchange I am having with an Apple employee (whom I won't name) in their marketing department, the Apple marketing person directly stated to me that Apple was catering to their historic Mac customers, and is purposely ignoring the Unix market. He also claimed that Apple would soon start paying more attention to the Unix market. I won't hold my breath. Apple has been ignoring Unix users for more than 12 years. I expect that trend to continue.
Apple has now lost two opportunities to sell me hardware. I really wanted an Apple laptop for their superior battery life, and for the PowerPC with Altivec CPU. (The Altivec is vastly superior to the x86 line for DSP.) Because I can't live with the broken-by-design built-in ADB keyboard in all Apple laptops, Sony and IBM sold me laptops instead. If Apple fixes this problem, they will sell me a PowerBook next year; if they don't, I'll still be running OpenBSD on x86 hardware, and wishing I could use a Mac.
In no particular order:
/ 190248&mode=thread -- Apple SUED Macromedia to keep them from releasing a properly functional Linux player. Also don't bother me with 'but you can buy blah blah blah' or 'you can use unauthorized codec clone blah' -- I don't want nor should have to buy anything or break the law to watch what Mac and Windows users see legally for free.
1. Harrassing Aqua-ish theme makers. As Apple should know, you can't patent "look and feel" -- as their failed case against MS demonstrated.
2. Refusing to release a Sorenson codec enabled player or library for Linux, effectively locking Linux users out of an increasing majority of all Internet video content and thus making Linux unviable to end users. Don't bother me with 'it isn't Apple's' fault -- as was covered here months ago, IT IS! See http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/19
3. Undercutting development of established Open Source projects, like Mozilla and XFree86, by pushing less open alternatives and thus both cutting their mindshare and draining developer talent. And before someone replies 'but now it supports X11', the point is that they aren't the 'default' systems under MacOS -- which means "native" GUI MacOS X applications are useless to Linux, and pages coded for Safari will probably becoming increasing incompatible with Mozilla.
Apple is a parasite sucking the blood of the Open Source movement, and is actively working to destroy Linux as a viable solution. The "open" solutions Apple endorses (Quicktime, Safari) do not work on Linux and serve only to spur sales of MacOS X.
In short: Apple is not Linux's friend, and these articles that claim otherwise are stupid and tiresome. Jobs may be fooling the moronic majority, but that isn't everyone. FUCK YOU, JOBS.
Obviously, you give a fuck, you fucking fuck. Seeing as you posted your big "who cares" whine to the rest of us who Do give a fuck, you fat fucking fuck.
Fuck you, and have a nice day. Fucker. (You should care, you cock sucking fuck, it makes you a better fucking human...because fucking apathy is a sad fucking thing.)
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Apple is dumb if they don't bond well with the linux community. But then again I never underestimate Apple's ability to shoot itself in the foot.
(ethernet, CD-ROMs, firewire and USB, IDE hard drives, etc ... can't count video cards, I guess)
... even if no one else can produce Macs per se, Apple knows that they are not alone in the world, and the ability to switch hardware platforms without switching OS has got to affect their pricing. (Not that Apple laptops are badly priced, all things considered ... go price some non-Apple 17", super-thin, aluminum-clad notebooks;)) Even though it's not direct, it's definitely competition. And that's just for people willing / anxious to run Free software; even for Mac OS-only users, Windows laptops (which cannot run OS X) are obviously competition; people need computers, not necessarily Apple computers
This is FAR from being good enough. And this is far from resolving my initial comment. I challenge you to BUILD a mac. I have owned, purchased, or otherwise consumed over 25 computers in the past 10 years. Of those, only 1 of those were a name brand PC (my very first one). Since then, I have built every single one of those from parts. I have found that by building my pc's I am able to build them cheaper (than purchasing a package deal or name brand pc) and more custom to my needs. This is the point I was trying to make about macs.
when just exchanging floppies between Windows and Mac OS was a big pain
I'm not sure where this came from. This is completely irrelevant to my point. My point is based solely on mac hardware. I was not even suggesting that the hardware had to be compatible with PC's let alon software/storage mediums. Again, I won't own a mac until they open their standards and create competition for hardware.
Now sure Macs support usb and/or firewire, but who gives a crap. Quite frankly, I find USB's ONLY use to be for standard peripherals (mice, keyboards, etc) and for portable devices. Any other device (such as hard drives, cdrom drives, etc) I'd rather have internal devices as that crap tends to clutter up my already cluttered desktop(real). And considering how cheap mice and keyboards are... forget about it.
there are non-Apple OSes that run on Apple's hardware (a few varieties of Linux, and at least the three biggest *BSDs). Now I'll admit this is a roundabout argument, but
I don't think you quite understand. Macs don't have any homogenius competetion. Macs are typically overpriced and underperforming. The latest macs use hardware that is outdated and several months closer to obsolecense than the latest PC's. And yet the top of the line macs can cost as much or more than top of the line PC's. And mac hardware is typically inferior to PC hardware... (unless you purchase shitty motherboards and such). And when your onboard Video card craps out, or your built-in display (crt or flatscreen) shoots poop, your only fix is to take it to an authorized service center and then wait 6 or more weeks while they fix it. Whereas if my monitor shoots its load, or my video card craps out, I'm back up and running in about 5 minutes.
THESE are the issues that will prevent me from buying a mac. If you want to buy a mac, its your money... but unless you need a specialized pc for doing multimedia editing, you are a fool for wasting your money on this crap.