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E.U. Commission Suggests Permissive Copyright Rule

An anonymous reader submits "ITworld.com is reporting: 'The European Commission on Thursday presented a draft directive that punishes copyright infringement for commercial purposes, but leaves the home music downloader untouched, infuriating the entertainment industry.'"

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  1. What about the EUCD? by nich37ways · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Is this meant to be a replacement for the EUCD or an additional law.

    It appears as though they would be mutualy exclusive, which is definetly a good thing. Any Europeans who follow these things know for sure.

    At any right sweet if it passes, but it is still only a draft and the Media Groups will be lobying hard for changes so one can only hope it remains unscathed.

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  2. Its good that someone gets it. by sjgman9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great! The Europeans are sensible about all of this. Downloading music off of the internet is no different than recording music off of the radio and digitizing it. All music is just sound waves anyway.

    I think that anyone that resells copyrighted material deserves whatever the content mafia deems possible.

    If the content cartel would just ease up about suing all of their potential customers, they wouldnt have a problem with piracy. Each industry has its own issues to deal with.

    Software. Makes $80 billion dollars, loses $12 billion on piracy.
    Software activation and antipiracy stuff (MICROSOFT AND QUICKEN) are a hassle to customers. They have to justify their existence in the face of open sourced competition.

    Movies. Makes a couple of billion dollars (I'm guessing maybe more), loses millions to crappy divx screeners and stuff. People are buying $20 DVDs buy the handful, renting DVD's for $4, and going to movies for $7 a whole hell of a lot! I find it hard to belive their claims about piracy when they are making money hand over fist. Given to head in the sand syndrome when they didnt allow Linux Users to have a version of DVD viewing software. If a bunch of programmers can make their own OS, then decoding DVDs must be trivially easy (Especially when Xing leaves a key around in plain sight--- geniuses). Region Coding is just a sham. Stop now and youll sell more movies. Go digital in projection screens and stop whining about costs to get movies out to justify delayed releases. Global simultaneous releases will do a lot to squashing piracy. Keep those DVD prices at $20 or less.

    Music Industry. Must move away from selling CD's a lot. Must sell DRM-less digital download in the MP3, Mp4, or SHN format. Must convince stores like best buy to install kiosks that allow users to hook up iPods or Nomads to swipe credit cards and get albums for $2 (this reduces payoffs to teamsters and costs to get cds pressed and stuff), and singles for $0.10. It;d be a gold mine and I'd buy like crazy. In the meantime, stop suing your customers, stop peddling locked cds WITHOUT LABELING THEM, YOU DECEITFUL BASTARDS, and ease up on piracy. Lastly, dont pay broadcasters to play songs. Thats got you in a bigger bind than this. Oh, and get much more responsive to consumer tastes and demands. And never again sell a Britney Spears to the american public. Spears will be a porn star within 5 years, as if Christina Aguilera isnt one.

    If the music industry doesnt serve its customers, it will become irrelevant. Why do you think that your devoted mouthpiece and IT whipping bitch Hilary Rosen left your sorry excuse for an industry? You guys suck, and we are taking our money elsewhere.

  3. Terrorism by JamesDotCom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems it's almost obligatory that any crime gets linked to terrorism now days

  4. Finally some sense! by RomikQ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whew! At least some politicians are showing intelligence.

    US always tries to do the "Good Thing" but goes all backwards about it - ie during the War On Drugs they didn't focus enough on the source of the drugs, and too much on the "end-user", during the War On Terrorism, they are overthrowing political regimes(I'm not saying they shouldn't but thats the wrong way to go about it), while they should be cutting off the money supply to terrorism that flows from America itself. Now they do do some of the right stuff too, but primarily US politians loose focus too quickly.

    Lets hope that EU will set a good example, by targeting the source of the disease instead of the symptoms.

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  5. Re:Civil vs Criminal laws by buggy_throwback · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > This is quite reasonable.

    I cant help but agree, and its probably the first time that I can think of the European Union doing something reasonable. Since commercial copyright theft is believed to fund organized criminals who also control drugs and prostitution, then the EU has said catagroically that these people are a lot worse than those who infringe copyright at home. Hooray!

    I'd still like to see the copyright laws returned to 14 years after publication, but you cant win them all.

  6. Re:Sounds good but... by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I find it interesting that you refer to the EU taking a stand against American protectionism. As an example, check out French farm subsidies. Pretty interesting comparison.

    I think there's a world (no pun intended :-) of difference between an internal market and an external market. The EU is doing more or less what EU-people expect if they "protect" EU-people from external states.

    The (horrendously large) french farm subsidies are an internal matter for the EU to sort out, and mainly came from the way in which the EU was set up, with Britain excluded from the EU until "appropriate" safeguards had been made for French farmers.

    [History, as far as I recall]
    Britain had a far more efficient farming style, wanted to join the EU => France was scared, so as anEU member France lobbied for EU subsidies as a condition for UK entrance. The UK eventually agreed that there were still sufficiently large advantages to be had by membership, and reduced its' original proposed EU payments as well. Britain entered the EU, and France kept their farmers employed.
    [/History]

    The ideal would be to wean people off subsidies, but I still see the above as the EU "protecting" member states (in this case, France) from external interests (in this case, the UK) . Whether I agree with the subsidies or not isn't really relevant...

    As for poverty being the root cause of India & China's resurgence, I don't doubt it's an economic argument that's the cause of the dilemma. I was trying to point out that a practice is being established... Any innate industry feeds from its market, and if the market disappears, so does the industry...

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  7. Re:Can't buy off the EU? by dakkar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Italy? Campaign contibutions? Ah!
    We passed that stage long ago, now we directly elect people who have money and power, not their cronies!
    (Yes, I'm Italian, and looking for a way out!)

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  8. Re:Sounds good but... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Don't think Europe doesn't have it's own power elite that runs the show.

    Honestly, though, it's hard over here getting support for a war in Iraq. The ignorant patriot has become sort of a humorous stereotye in other countries, but in actuality there is just no way the RIAA could force America to wage war.

    Still, you do have a good point. Analysis of the Telecommunications Act of 1997 (I believe it was 1997, but I'm not sure) is proof of the massive media conglomerates power in Congress (the Act actually helped perpetuate this).

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  9. drugs and prostitution.... by oliverthered · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I always find that funny, Robbie wiliams who said P2P networks were great, got hammered for promoting "Drugs and Prostitution". WTF/

    Anyhow, there are four systems,
    1: The controled market (that the goverment loves)
    2: The free market (the odd job on the side etc.. not taxed)
    3: The black market (selling things that are illeagal)
    4: and fraud.

    So yeh, I like drugs... , I never quite understood pating for sex? maybe if it was a bit more kinky than your partner would do...
    Do I give a fuck about the government.... umm..... nope.

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