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Bush Names New Cyber Security Czar

goombah99 writes "The Washington Post reports that Cybersecurity "czar" Richard Clarke has confirmed widespread reports that he is leaving the White House, to be replaced by former microsoft security chief Howard Schmidt. He was also part of the Air Force's 'Computer Crime and Information Warfare division'. In related news, the National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace has received Bush's signature and will be released to the public in the next few weeks. Clark's blunt staements on the to the need to avoid erosion of privacy rights is rumored to have rubbed the administration the wrong way, prompting his exit. Anyone know how Schmitt will view the relative security of closed versus open source?" Nothing says "Security" better to me than "Former Microsoft Security Chief".

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  1. red, white and blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    screen of death

  2. And tonight... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Our top story - Previous cyberspace advisor sacked after coming worringly near to sticking up for rights of normal Americans. Now replaced by Microsoft "security" manager in amusing henhouse/fox style situation. Corporations breathe freely again. Film at 11.

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    1. Re:And tonight... by ichimunki · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those of you not reading the article, it is important to note that Schmidt is already Clarke's deputy. It's not like he's being drafted straight out of Microsoft and into this top post. Besides, do we really think they'd accidentally get someone who was independent thinker in there if they could help it?

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  3. Can anyone say Fox watching the Henhouse??? by path_man · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mod me as a troll, I don't care... this is absurd. Microsoft corporation has proven time and time again that they can't grasp fundamental security practices or concepts. Now, instead of having a boss (BillG) whose motivation is profit, we've got a security chief whose boss (GBush / JAshcroft) who wants to rob us of our civil liberties.

    Bruce Schneier for Security Chief!!!!

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  4. Lol by KDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next, RIAA advisor appointed as judge in IP case, Disney spokeperson heads the new congressional committee for copyright term balance, and Pakistan appoints Hans Blix's replacement at the head of the UN Arms Inspectors Committee.

    Daniel

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    1. Re:Lol by sita · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Libya gets to head the UN commission on human rights.

      Oh, wait.

  5. Not surprising by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nothing says "Security" better to me than "Former Microsoft Security Chief".

    Look, do you want extensive experience or not? I trust this guy to have run into more security problems than just about anyone else out there.

    I wonder if he leaned more toward engineering (and the godawful CryptoAPI) or policy (and the signing procedures that let Nimda get out)?

    On a more realistic note, in terms of practical security benefit, the recent spending of taxpayer dollars on a set of minimum Windows security standards (the "Gold Standard") is probably one of the most cost-effective things that could have been done for nationwide security. Even if it grates those Linux/Mac OS/etc people among us the wrong way... It beats blowing more money on facial recognition at Super Bowls.

    1. Re:Not surprising by dhuv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What you are not look at is this. This person had the same chance to make good security decisions with Microsoft and HE DIDN'T. Thats the point. Taxpayers should have to spend money on something that Microsoft should be paying for. It is their responsibility to make their product secure, why should tax payers pay for that?

  6. Um... He's already in the govt. by Big+Sean+O · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to his biography here. From his bio, it doesn't sound like he's a dyed in the wool microsoftie.

    Instead of making jokes or clamoring about how this is a bad (or good) thing, let's try to figure out what this guy is about.

    Any signal out there?

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    1. Re:Um... He's already in the govt. by notaspy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Instead of making jokes or clamoring about how this is a bad (or good) thing, let's try to figure out what this guy is about."

      It doesn't matter what HE is about. He'll toe the Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft line or he is GONE. And the Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft line is all about maintaining big business' (particularly oil) stranglehold on power.

      Anyone surprised by Bush's proposal to research hydrogen as a fuel source? Many scientists have suggested that the move to a hydrogen-based economy (replacing the current petroleum-based economy) is inevitable and necessary. So why would Bush propose funding hydrogen research? You can (and will) bet your last dollar that the plan is not to develop a new hydrogen-based industry that would compete with or even replace the oil companies. It's for the oil companies to take over the future hydrogen industry. Completely and irrevocably.

      It's ALL about maintaining power, so don't start thinking that Bush will allow anything contrary thinking (like protecting civil liberties).

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  7. Interesting. because by Sh0t · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've worked for the Dept of the Navy for 6 years now,4 years as an active marine and 2 for a navy contractor and I've seen a trend in the Navy/MC away from microsoft products and their consultation.

    But then again, it doesn't mean that everything will be MS because he's a former MS officer, but it is more than possible. If anything he may have a VERY humble attitude toward things because I'm sure he's been the brunt of many criticisms from his past post.

    It's no secret MS has had problems with security.

    But I wonder what this will mean for upcoming copyright and piracy issues involving computer software and the like. Since he comes from a company where the doctrine is pretty strict in terms of copyrighting and such, we will see a severe change in the laws?

    "Clark's blunt staements on the to the need to avoid erosion of privacy rights is rumored to have rubbed the administration the wrong way, prompting his exit"

    Well if the previous guy was removed because he was in favor of keeping privacy rights a concern, this may indeed be the case.

    Overall, I can't say this is a good sign.

    Excuse my above ramblings, I have strep throat and it's driving me crazy.

  8. bureaucrat by ToastedBagel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Day by day, MS is becoming more like one of those boring typical corporations in US. Start-up -> make money -> lobbying -> get people inside Washington and build business around bureaucracy. I don't dare call MS an innovator, but come on, it's not even 20 years since MS started their business, and they are already joining the club of boring bureaucrats.

  9. Reminds you of the old joke... by bigmouth_strikes · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In heaven, the Italians do the cooking, the Swiss do the accounting, the German fix the cars, the French are the lovers, and the British are the police.

    In hell, the English do the cooking, the Italians do the accounting, the French fix the cars, the Swiss are the are the lovers, and the Germans are the police".


    I guess we can add something about who's in charge of cyber security in either places... and I'm pretty sure where Microsoft has a bigger footprint.

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  10. When was the last time microsoft.com was cracked? by Temporal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just to point out... According to the article, this guy was in charge of Microsoft's network's security, not Microsoft's software's security. The fact that he has been able to keep that web site, which runs on NT, from being cracked for so many years must qualify him as some sort of security god.

    (If I am misinformed, and microsoft.com has actually been cracked and defaced at some point in the past, do tell...)

  11. United States Upgrade (USSP1) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    United States SP1

    This service pack addresses the following security holes and bugs found in the current public release of United State version 2003:

    - free speech buffer overruns
    - memory leaks of useless patents
    - higher intelectual property security
    - copyright roll-over
    - civil rights run away processes
    - stronger backdoors for stronger crypto
    - cpu race conditions
    - elimination of privacy APIs

  12. Alarming related news by mysticgoat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Quoting the last five (short) paragraphs of the story:

    The White House has so far been unable to fill top leadership posts at the Homeland Security department's division charged with protecting the Internet and other communications systems from attacks.

    The administration's first choice to run the Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection Division was former Defense Intelligence Agency Director James Clapper.

    Clapper, a retired Air Force lieutenant and the head of the National Imagery and Mapping Center, unexpectedly pulled his name from consideration.

    John Tritak, former director of the Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office and pegged as the administration's pick for deputy undersecretary for infrastructure protection at the Homeland Security Department, is still a name under consideration, though he recently left the government.

    Another noted name in online security, Ron Dick, director of the FBI's cyber threat and warning bureau, has also resigned from government service.

    Is anyone else disturbed by the way first choice candidates seem to be running away from any involvement with government internet security?

  13. This may be nitpicking but... by Badanov · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What makes you think corporations aren't concerned about their own IT security? Why is it that private companies are singled out as a group whose social concerns apparently runs so counter to the ones discussed here?

    Seems to me that this new IT security person appeals to MS and that is it. So, why lump the rest of us into that paradigm?

    Don't get me wrong: I help run a company's IT and whatever pronouncements this new guy will make will have all the impact of a stale cocktail.

    I find jokes like these as funny as the concepts they profess to support.

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    1. Re:This may be nitpicking but... by dbrutus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here are a few legitimate concerns in order of importance (in my mind of course).

      1. Blackmail: If this security chief assisted in any of Microsoft's prior bad acts (DR-DOS episode is just one example) and is vulnerable to a criminal charge, he's vulnerable to blackmail. That makes him singularly inappropriate to head a sensitive position such as this one.

      2. Incompetence: He's a former head of MS security. His performance is part of the reason that MS had the trusted computing initiative after he left because security was so screwed up.

      3. Unwillingness to choose honest dealing with the public over self-interest: He never blew the whistle on MS even though security people generally know where all the bodies are buried. A lot of insecure systems are out there on the Internet in part because he didn't want to make waves. That is not necessarily what you want in a govt. job.

    2. Re:This may be nitpicking but... by GreyPoopon · · Score: 3, Insightful
      1. Blackmail: If this security chief assisted in any of Microsoft's prior bad acts (DR-DOS episode is just one example) and is vulnerable to a criminal charge, he's vulnerable to blackmail. That makes him singularly inappropriate to head a sensitive position such as this one.

      I think EVERY politician is in some way vulnerable to blackmail. Based on what we now know about Mr. Clinton's weakness for pretty much anything in a skirt, I'd say he was a bad choice for president. In fact, being revealed to the public was probably the BEST thing that could have happened to him, as it eliminates many chances at blackmail. Just because the public is aware of several cases someone may have been involved in doesn't really make blackmail any more likely. It's the stuff you DON'T know about that you should worry most about.

      2. Incompetence: He's a former head of MS security. His performance is part of the reason that MS had the trusted computing initiative after he left because security was so screwed up.

      I'm not sure if you can pin this one on him either. The truth is, Windows needs to be pretty much re-written from the ground up with a focus on security. Would you like to be the one to announce that to the CEO? I missed the article that detailed his departure from Microsoft, but until somebody points me in the right direction, I'd assume it was just as likely he stepped down due to a difference of opinion in how to handle the security problems.

      3. Unwillingness to choose honest dealing with the public over self-interest: He never blew the whistle on MS even though security people generally know where all the bodies are buried. A lot of insecure systems are out there on the Internet in part because he didn't want to make waves. That is not necessarily what you want in a govt. job.

      He wasn't working for the public when he was at Microsoft. It was his job to avoid whistle-blowing on their security holes. Instead, he was expected to focus on quietly plugging those holes before somebody else found out.

      I'm not sure we can truly judge anybody by their performance at another company. Many an underling has been let go because they disagreed with the top brass, and it's really hard to distinguish who the "bad guy" really is. I'd say we should focus more on his track record in his current position to see how he'll pan out. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much information to go on. That in itself may be a better argument against his appointment.

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    3. Re:This may be nitpicking but... by arkanes · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If you don't think it's reasonable to evaluate his past performance, what do you think IS a reasonable way to evaluate him? To be perfectly fair, we'd need to see his job description at Microsoft and compare that to what Microsoft did in the years he was there.

      On the other hand, his job title was "Security Chief". To me, that means that security issues stop at his door, and blaming the windows codebase or the CEO is a smokescreen - it's his job to make the product secure. If he can't convince the CEO that's important, then what makes you think the can convince Bush about anything important?

      I read the article about his departure from MS, it was full of the normal corporate bullshit. So if he was leaving over security issues, he didn't feel strongly enough to go public with them - which is probably politically wise, but still something I'd check off against him.

    4. Re:This may be nitpicking but... by GreyPoopon · · Score: 3, Informative
      If you don't think it's reasonable to evaluate his past performance, what do you think IS a reasonable way to evaluate him?

      That was my last point -- we don't have a reasonable way to evaluate him.

      To be perfectly fair, we'd need to see his job description at Microsoft and compare that to what Microsoft did in the years he was there.

      Agreed. We'd also need to see all of the decisions he made, whether they were carried out or not.

      To me, that means that security issues stop at his door, and blaming the windows codebase or the CEO is a smokescreen - it's his job to make the product secure.

      Agreed, but I'm sure you're also aware that in a corporation, it rarely works this way. I guess you could say that it may shed some light on his inability to build a compelling argument for the CEO, but my guess is that the financial aspect is alwas speaking in a louder voice.

      If he can't convince the CEO that's important, then what makes you think the can convince Bush about anything important?

      Absolutely nothing. I think there's hardly anyone who would be able to convince Bush of something he didn't want to hear anyway.

      I read the article about his departure from MS, it was full of the normal corporate bullshit.

      Just as a suspected.

      which is probably politically wise, but still something I'd check off against him.

      Isn't it funny how traits that are politically good and are what allow people to obtain and keep positions are the same traits that prevent someone from truly being of good character? It's a real shame. I often wonder what our government would be like it only the most honest and forthright were involved. Afterwards, I usually wake up from falling out of bed. :-)

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  14. On the other hand... by AdeBaumann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...that will make it easier for us (well, those of us in the States at least) to scream "Biased!" when he comes up with any closed-source/Microsoft advocacy. This could actually help.

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  15. Slashdot Interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps one of the editors could get a Slashdot interview ... i mean .. i think a large number of technical people read this site .. and it would be in his best interest perhaps to have a little Q&A with us

  16. Old guy canned beacuse of citizen rights? ? by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He was canned because he wanted to protect individual rights, and had limits on how far he'd go against the citizen?

    That alone should scare the hell out of people. Who is taking his place is minor compared to that.

    Or did I mis-read it thru the awful grammar?

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  17. Nope he was In charge of trsuted computing by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Informative
    After reading what I thought was an insightful clarification I did some more digging, and now I have to disagree with you.

    According to the schmitt bio: Prior to joining..., Mr. Schmidt was the Chief Security Officer for Microsoft Corporation, Redmond, WA. While there, he oversaw the Security Strategies group, insuring the development of a trusted computing environment via auditing, policy, best practices and incubation of security products and practices.

    this does not sound like network security per se to me

    We all tend to guilty of going-with-what-we-know. So his past is a relevant to gussing his future policy. Thus his involvement with microsoft and aspects of trusted computing are troubling. Another statement from his bio that i'd like to know more about is

    Mr. Schmitt ....has been instrumental in the creation of public/private partnerships and information sharing iniatives

    what sort of information sharing? Sharing as in the TIA's notion of it? or sharing as government databses need better integration? Given his FBI and Airforce 'crime information warfare' background it is probably safe to assume that he would see lack of integration as an impediment to law enfocement would like better sharing of confidential data amongst law inforcement. Not an entirely bad idea if safe gaurded and until it reaches the TIA sort of level.

    Other than second guessing what I exepct will be the promotion of policy I wont like, the remainder of his Bio plainly says he is technically qualified for both the techincal, policial, manegerial, and policy aspects of cyber security. Few people would be as qualified to adminsitrate the office. I think I would just feel better if he were the deputy and someone else was setting policy.

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  18. Howard Schmidt's Biography by Reziac · · Score: 4, Informative
    excerpted from Howard Schmidt's Biography

    *****
    Before joining Microsoft, he was a Supervisory Special Agent, Director of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Computer Forensic Lab and Computer Crime and Information Warfare. (HQ AFOSI/CCI). Under his direction he established the first dedicated computer forensic lab in the government. The AF specialized in conducting investigations into intrusions in government/military systems by unauthorized persons in counter intelligence and criminal investigations.

    Before AFOSI he was with the FBI at the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) where he headed the Computer Exploitation Team as a Computer Forensic Specialist. As one of the early pioneers in the field of computer forensics and computer evidence collection, he continues to provide training support to an international audience dealing with the new challenges around computer evidence collection and processing.

    He was a City police officer from 1983-1994 with the city of Chandler Police Dept. Arizona. He served on the SWAT team, organized crime and narcotics investigations and field sergeant. While there he was detailed to the FBI academy teaching classes in the use of computers in criminal investigations for approximately 2 years.

    Howard has over 31 years public service having served with the US Air Force in various roles from 1967-1983 both active duty and in the civil service. He has served in the military reserves since 1989 and currently serves as a Credentialed Special Agent, US Army Reserves, Criminal Investigation Division (CID). He has testified as an expert witness in federal and military courts in the areas of computer crime, computer forensics and Internet activity.

    He holds a Bachelors Degree in Business Administration, (BSBA) and a Master of Arts in Organizational Management (MAOM). He also has a Technician class Ham Radio License, and a Single Engine Land pilots license.
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    Hey folks, remember before you kneejerk -- there are more types of security than what programmers think of when they hear the term.

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  19. Hey, he LEFT Microsoft - - what else do you want? by LazloToth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For all the people whose blood boils at the mere mention of Microsoft's name: give this man some credit for leaving the company. And, as others here have pointed out, what better laboratory for the study of cyber warfare than MS? Could YOU have handled that heat as long as he did?

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  20. Yeah, yeah. . . by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 3, Funny
    And the beat moves on.

    It's all about Fear.

    What? People thinking and exchanging news and information on the web? Horrors! They might all be saying bad things about us, (the Powers That Be)! We must put a stop to this!

    The best part is that, after all is said and done, after all the fire works and torture and human carnage, the bastards will lose. You cannot channel that much destructive force without being destroyed. Such minds deteriorate as they cling to their nice comfy illusions of grandeur, (and they are illusions. Everybody knows that Bush is a coke-snorting moron, no matter how hard he tries to pretend otherwise, no matter what sly tricks he participates in, his brain remains a piece of cheese. And he continues to rot.)

    In the end, the darkness is self-consuming. It's like a black hole; that's the perfect metaphor, actually. The perfect symbol. Selfishness wants and takes and takes until it collapses under its own weight. Selfishness is the frightened child which wants to cling to (and control) its mother, and damn it, climb back into the womb if at all possible. Because the bright and beautiful world is just too damned frightening. (Beware the clingy child.)

    Beauty and the Unknown are for the strong and bright-eyed children, who grow accordingly, and seek outwards; never to control, but to test themselves against the world and grow stronger and more capable of participating in the wonders they seek.

    Selfishness and Fearfulness, by contrast, seek ultimately, to return to the dark warmth of sleep, and there disintegrate into dream and into nothingness. --And that's fine, (Let 'em vanish!). The only problem being that they can't bear to think there is a bright and beautiful world out there populated with heros and the brave. --Simply, because the contrast between the worms and the brave is a painful one! Nobody wants to be a fearful worm; especially not the worms; especially not the worms! --They have the least ability of all in dealing with hard truths. They are not about growing or changing; they are about warm illusions and control. A brave man winces at his faults but then sets about the task of fixing them. While, a coward cringes in horror at his faults, and seeks to tell himself stories where really, he, is the hero, and then he goes about trying to enforce this image upon all those around him; to maintain the illusion. And all the while, in reality, he degenerates further while the Brave Man grows ever stronger.

    Like I have said many times before, Good Guys Always Win. Always. Always. (Despite the millions of messages to the opposite we are bombarded with daily by the Fear-controlled media! Despite the deep cultural programming which begs women to seek 'bad' boys while in the same stroke, casts a homosexual in the role of Smallville's 'Superman') But you watch. You'll see. It all pans out in the end. There will be carnage and there will be blood, but in the end, the worms will turn to mud and vanish, and the heros and the brave will remain. --I firmly believe in reincarnation and in many lives, and that the Heros and the Brave will continue; that Death is just a train station platform. I also believe that the worms will return as well, although in a reduced form, (thanks to Karma). The only way to destroy a soul is for it to continually participate in debauchery and petty fear, until it regresses, finally, into primal matter. Let 'em regress. Let 'em go. Let the little worm people try to control the world and the internet, let them try to control thought itself. (And if it's an MS clone who'll be running things over at the White House, then you can bet they'll keep a thumb on the pulse of such net indicators as Slashdot; Are you listening, you chumps? I am talking about YOU.)

    The forces of Fear will cause friction for a time, and they can influence thought, even to a large degree. But only for a time. And not the minds of the strong, who will only shake their heads. And then, finally, they will pass. Good riddance.

    Chumps.


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  21. Two things by Derkec · · Score: 4, Insightful
    First, just because the guy once worked for Microsoft does not mean that he is stilled owned by Microsoft and only sees their side of things. He may or may not be a fan of open source and he may or may not be a fan of his former employer. I have former employers I would probably be prejudice against if in a gov't position.


    Second, if he was ever head of MS security, he is used to dealing with extremely difficult situations and has handled his share of disasters. Overall, that job would provide great experiance understanding the tradeoffs made between functionality, ease of use and security. Also, a good understanding of how some software companies resolve security issues and how to lead an effort to address security flaws in software. Probably an ideal background overall.

  22. That's too bad by drix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had the opportunity to meet and interview Clarke when he came to my school last year to give a speech as part of a post-9/11 outreach program to CS faculties around the nation. (In fact, I wrote an article about it for our school newspaper, if you're interested.) He really handled himself well. The crowd was more or less 100% engineering and CS faculty, grad students, and the type of smart undergrads that would actually care about such a thing, in other words a tough crowd to play to. And I think everyone was a pretty skeptical at the outset that any government official would know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to IT policy, so-called "cybersecurity" (blech), and such. But he did! After he spoke he gave about a 40 minute Q&A where people asked him all sorts of tough and sometimes really esoteric questions concerning software patents, the DMCA, network security, hell, something about quantum computing even came up. His knowledge was impressive and, even more heartening, when he didn't know the answer he just said so rather than bullshitting. All in all I left with a good feeling that this guy was the White House's go-to man for IT policy and would be protecting our computers from the terrorists. Now it sounds like he got fired because he wasn't quite fascist enough for the Bushies, which is really depressing. Guess I should have seen it coming all along.

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  23. Nothing new here by jc42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    About 15 years ago, I was working on for a consulting firm (which shall remain nameless here ;-) that does mostly government contract work. I was one of a small group that was assigned the task of analyzing and reporting on security issues with the growing collection of commercial networked small computers. My task was mostly collecting and/or writing security-test software.

    After a couple of months, the security guys discovered some of the things that I'd collected (or written). I was summarily fired.

    During the discussions, my boss observed that I was perhaps lucky that they didn't decide to prosecute me. He thought that there were two reasons they merely fired me: 1) I was doing the job that I'd been assigned, and 2) They were afraid that my lawyer would merely demand that all the evidence against me be presented in court.

    Within six months, all the rest of the group had quietly resigned. I'm still in occasional contact with some of them. None of us has ever accepted another security-related job.

    Computer security is of growing importance. But nobody with much experience in it is likely to accept a government job. I wouldn't avise anyone to take such a job, unless you know that you have the power and money to defend yourself when the inevitable happens.

    (It might be interesting to hear from others with similar experiences. Of course, the poster boy for this whole topic is Randal Shwartz. Google him and read all about it.)

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  24. We don't need an "anything" Czar. by Maul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I hear about a the "Drug Czar" I am reminded about the "war on drugs" that has already cost us plenty of civil liberties and caused a violent and expensive black market for drugs.

    The idea of a "Cyber Security Czar" frightens me even more, especially given the fact that the Bush Administration doesn't seem to care jack squat for the rights and privacy of American citizens.

    The fact that it seems they dismissed the old Cyber Security Czar because he was actually sticking up for the privacy of citizens (and thus not working towards Bush's vision of a facist-style government in which citizens are reduced to flag-waving serfs with no actual rights) scares me quite a bit.

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