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Who Really Invented The Telegraph?

Fat Boy unslim writes "It's been 250 years since the publication of a paper describing the theory behind sending messages down a wire using electricity. Unfortunately, no one knows who wrote it." If you thought the answer was as simple as "Morse," this article may come as a surprise.

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  1. Had to be Al Gores great great great grandfather. by Typingsux · · Score: 4, Funny
    Who else?

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  2. Uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How long before this site is slash-dot-dot-dot-dash-dot-dash-dotted?

  3. From the article.... by Chester+K · · Score: 4, Funny

    ground-breaking paper was simply signed with the initials "CM, Renfrew"

    CM obviously stands for CowboyMeal, which is CowboyNeal's pen name.

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  4. The Victorian Internet by Hanashi · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you really want the reference for the technical and social history of the telegraph, check out Tom Standage's The Victorian Internet: The Remarkable Story of the Telegraph and Nineteenth Century's On-Line Pioneers.

    I read this book shortly after it came out in paperback, and I have to say that it's fascinating. It discusses various early telegraph systems in detail, including those not using electricity at al. More importantly, it draws startling parallels between the telegraph's influence on 19th century society and the Internet's influence today, especially during the dotcom boom. This is a must-read for the true geek.

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  5. I think I found him by long_john_stewart_mi · · Score: 4, Funny

    EXACTLY 250 years ago today, a Scottish inventor penned a theory that led to the electric telegraph and the mobile phone.

    I have a neighbor that looks about that age, maybe it was him.

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    1. Re:I think I found him by Snowbeam · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or could it have been Connor Mcleod of the clan Mcleod?

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  6. Morse invented the serial port :) by hpa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Morse certainly didn't invent the first electrical telegraph; he just invented the most practical one. Most of the previous electrical telegraphs had been either analog and highly unreliable or required multiple wires; some were even both.

    The Morse telegraph required only one wire (the return went through the Earth), which was a huge cost savings in the time before cheap insulation, and yet was a binary on/off transmission with the associated reliability advantages. The original Morse code (sometimes called "railway Morse") used four symbol lengths; once the Morse telegraph spread and eventually went wireless the "international Morse code" simplified this to only two symbol lengths; this is the code which is invariably used even today.

    1. Re:Morse invented the serial port :) by rgmoore · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Morse certainly didn't invent the first electrical telegraph; he just invented the most practical one.

      This is, of course, true of a lot of classic inventions. The person who is given popular credit for inventing them isn't necessarily somebody who built the thing from scratch, or even the first person who made one that really worked. It's usually the person who made the final few tweaks that pushed an invention from being an interesting curiosity or a minor but useful device into something that had widespread applicability. In many cases there's something of a tipping point. Until a key technological hurdle is crossed, the device is so impractical that nobody is willing to invest a lot of time, effort, and money into improving it. But when it crosses some threshold of practicality, it starts attracting capital investment that causes it to improve and spread into more and more applications, which draws more investment, and so on.

      A classic case is James Watt and the steam engine. Steam engines had been in use long before Watt came along, but they were fuel hogs that were limited to use at coal mines where there was plenty of fuel just sitting around. Watt figured out a way of radically improving their efficiency (by using an external condenser) and thus pushed them from being an isolated curiosity to being a major industrial workhorse.

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  7. Re:Had to be Al Gores great great great grandfathe by loknor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not sure who invented it but I think I know what one of the first messages was:

    Dear Sir

    I am calling to help you lower your long distance calling rates

    Please respond

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  8. Give societies their due by Autonymous+Toaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect the question of "who invented this first" is often the wrong one to ask. It's natural to seek a simple, contained explanation for these things, but in reality almost anything that's more than trivial has a longer history to follow than just the inspiration of one person (or intelligence).

    For instance just as another example, the question of who invented the toaster seems like it might have a short answer, but the truth is that this pinnacle of culinary automation is the result of thousands of years of refinement.

    I certainly don't want to play down the importance of any one individual in inventing toasters or telegraphs, but that also means we can't play down all the others before them. So instead we might ask "what process was involved in creating X". The answer will probably be more interesting too.

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  9. Other information on CM's identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pasted From: http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Telegraph/00000011.h tm

    The identity of 'C. M.,' who dated his letter from Renfrew, has not been established beyond a doubt. There is a tradition of a clever man living in Renfrew at that time, and afterwards in Paisley, who could 'licht a room wi' coal reek (smoke), and mak' lichtnin' speak and write upon the wa'.' By some he was thought to be a certain Charles Marshall, from Aberdeen; but it seems likelier that he was a Charles Morrison, of Greenock, who was trained as a surgeon, and became connected with the tobacco trade of Glasgow. In Renfrew he was regarded as a kind of wizard, and he is said to have emigrated to Virginia, where he died.

  10. The answer is obvious by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    It was Scotty. That's right: Captain Montgomery Scott. First he came back in time and invented transparent aluminum. Then, going further back in time and visiting the ancestral manse, he decided to invent the telephone/telegraph.

    But what of the signature "CM Renfrew"? Captain Montgomery from Renfrew. Why no S for Scott? Unnecessary. Everyone from Renfrew (in those days) was a Scott. It was the ancestral home. It's so obvious, it's silly.

  11. Re:And while were at it by gpinzone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Edison wasn't a thief, but he certaintly wasn't a "creator." He was an "adaptor." He took other people's ideas that were half-baked and unfinished and actually made them work. The ancient Greeks created lots of stuff, but the Romans perfected many of them.

  12. Reminds me of a dumb joke by Ugmo · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are two (English|Scottish) Lords bragging about who's family was more important.

    The first Lord says that while doing renovations on their family castle they found a buried copper cable 2 miles long put down in the 1500's. This, he says, proves his family invented the telegraph hundreds of years before any one else.

    The second Lord says that while doing renovations on HIS castle they found NO cable. THIS proves, he says, that his family was using WIRELESS, hundreds of years before the first Lord's family was using telegraph.

  13. Nikoli Tesla's grandfather by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After seeing so many of these "who's on first" discussions break down into unresolvable claims and counter claims, usually along nationalistic lines, we start to see that many 'inventions' actually look like state of the art 'waves' involving MANY, MANY people working in varying degress of interinvolvment, and that any one particular person just bob's up and down on the wave crest - if that one person wasn't there at the right place at the right time any one of the others could have easily taken his or her place. You might as well be saying someting like "Neil Armstrong invented moon walking!" which overlooks the talents and dedicated efforts of a huge number of people over a very long time, from the ancient Chinese to Robert Goddard to Werner Von Braun and a large cast of others who helped put him there.

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  14. Re:Another example by rgmoore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is such a thing as multiple discovery. The reason that Columbus is given credit for discovering the New World is because his discovery was the historically significant one. The response to previous discoveries of America was minor and historically unimportant; none of those other travelers started significant, long lasting communication between the New and Old World. That's why Columbus was able to re-discover it independently. The previous discoverers' knowledge quickly died out. Columbus's voyage, OTOH, quickly lead to large scale trips between Europe and America, so that the two of them became socially, politically, and economically tied together. After Columbus, you couldn't discover America again because knowledge of it was too widespread for it to count as a discovery.

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  15. who really invented the wireless ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the same light "who invented wireless ?"

    The most common answer would be Marconi.
    This is completely incorrect.
    The first wireless communication was invented by an Indian scientist named Jagadish Chandra Bose in 1899 (recognised now by IEEE). Of course he wasn't savvy enough to get patents and all and as in those times it was easy to suppress a scientific achievement from a thirld world colonial rules state. He is very respected in part of the country who studied science as a gift to mankind.

    see some information here
    http://www.minhas.net/culture/indianpeople/j cbose. htm
    http://www.tuc.nrao.edu/~demerson/bose/bose.h tml

    or otherwise google on "jagadish chandra bose".

    As a further information he was the first scientist to discover and prove that plants have life.

  16. Could the telegraph be invented today? by ThinkingGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    A random thought that occurred to me while reading the article: If the telegraph were invented for the first time today, would it have a chance of being successful?
    Naturally there would be the big patent fight, with various people and corporations suing back and forth, claiming credit for the invention. But even if that were settled, think of the resistance that there would be to the (new) idea of setting poles with wires strung between them:

    Environmental groups: "Birds will be tangled in the wires.. and what about the effects of EMF on children?"

    Religous groups: "God didn't mean for man to be able to communicate with other men in an instant fashion. The telegraph is an instrument of the devil!"

    Rich people: "I don't want those ugly poles and wires in my neighborhood. They'll lower my property values!"

    Poor people: "It's only rich people who can afford to send telegraphs, but they run all the wires through our neighborhoods. It's discrimination!"

  17. As a Morse... by jmorse · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I resent all this talk about my ancestor not being the innovative pioneer that he was. And I resent all those royalties that...oh, wait, I've never actually received a royalty. Nevermind.

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  18. Re:Had to be Al Gores great great great grandfathe by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Funny
    The real first message ever sent using Morse, by Charles Morse, is actually interesting by itself: "What hath God wrought?"

    Afterwards, his older brother, Samuel, beat the living daylights out of him for playing with his stuff.

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