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Jack Valenti's Views On The Digital Age

ditogi writes "The Harvard Political Review did a quick interview with the lord of darkness himself, Jack Valenti. He gives his thoughts on government mandated copy prevention, fair use, and lobbying. In response to his famous 'VCR is [to the movie industry]...as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.' quote, he responds, 'I wasn't opposed to the VCR.' And what does he think of his current job? 'I think lobbying is really an honest profession.'" My favorite quote: "In the digital world, we don't need back-ups, because a digital copy never wears out. It is timeless." Update: 02/05 20:05 GMT by T : Derek Slater writes "I'm the author of the Valenti article you guys linked to. I've made some brief comments about it on my site, and figured I'd send them along."

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  1. a shed by Spicy+Bisquit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Jack Valenti had his way back in 1982 (he almost did as the Sony BetaMax case went all the way to the Supreme Court) we wouldn't have VCRs today, Blockbuster wouldn't exist and 50% of Hollywoods income wouldn't exist.

    The guy is a knob.

    1. Re:a shed by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Blockbuster, and ONLY blockbuster would exist. (We have that now through special deals with BB/Hollywood video, the mom & pops are dead)

      They werent opposed to selling you movies to watch in your own home, they were opposed to a free market distributing those movies.

      Thats where the whole crap about they sell 'liscenses' to the movies come about. Legally you can lend, trade, give away, or sell a videotape, but since the movie it contains is only liscensed to you for a particular purpose (personal viewing or rental) you cant.

      But in the digital age, apparently he feels we should not be able to protect those 'liscenses' we bought. Or he maybe thinks our liscense is only valid so long as the medium the movie came on is in working order?

      Is anyone stupid enough to believe a DVD is indestructable? My 8 year old single-handedly destroyed 2 of them this weekend alone. Does she no longer posess the liscense to view 'Shrek' because she stepped on the DVD, or can she watch the backup I made of it?

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  2. Why? I don't know. by Dugsmyname · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We're breeding a new group of young students who wouldn't dream of going into a Blockbuster and putting a DVD under their coat. But they have no compunction about bringing down a movie on the Internet. That isn't wrong to them. Why? I don't know.

    Nowhere in this article did I find any mention of turning "Bringing down a movie on the Internet" into a viable business model.

    People download movies becasue it is easy, convenient, and fast.

    Attach a cost.

    Keep it easy.

    Keep it convenient

    Make it fast.

    and it could become a viable business model for the future...
    The music industry still hasn't gotten the clue, maybe the movie industry still has a chance before it eaten alive by Kazaa, IRC(for the moment), and other file sharing applications.

  3. So what? by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's his point here?

    "What is not fair use is making a copy of an encrypted DVD, because once you're able to break the encryption, you've undermined the encryption itself."

    So what if I've 'undermined the encryption'?

    I do know what the DMCA says about it. But it's absurd and wrong that they can wrap a patent around something that copyright law won't let them accomplish.

    Through their own legal battles against used sales and mom & pop rental places, they've made the point that I'm purchasing a liscense to the content. Where is the liscense (if there is a standard one)? Is there a term anywhere that says the liscense is tied to the medium and the encryption somehow?

    Also I take issue to this quote:

    "We're breeding a new group of young students who wouldn't dream of going into a Blockbuster and putting a DVD under their coat. But they have no compunction about bringing down a movie on the Internet. That isn't wrong to them. Why? I don't know."

    This is bullshit. 'Young students' surely do know right from wrong. They know getting a movie (or video game or album) they haven't paid for is wrong. They also know it isn't theft, but a copyright infringement. I just hate his insinuation that we're not only criminals, but stupid.

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    1. Re:So what? by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You must not understand the difference between civil law and criminal law. Let me summarize.

      Copyright infringement is a TORT. A tort is a civil wrong. You can be SUED by the person/persons on the other end of the tort. The other party brings the lawsuit, the goverment merely acts as an arbitrator to settle the lawsuit.

      Theft is a crime. You are charged with a crime, and prosecuted by the state or federal government.

      Theft, more accurately, is the act of depriving someone of real physical property. If you take a DVD from blockbuster, blockbuster has 1 less DVD to sell/rent.

      If you rent the dvd and copy it and return it, no real property has been lost. But you have broken the rental agreement, and committed a civil wrong. Both blockbuster and the copyright holder could sue you. You may be liable for damages, but you have not comitted a crime, and are not a criminal.

      So, the MPAA is in the position of having to sue everyone they think might have copied a movie. This isn't feasible.

      Lo and behold, the DMCA makes it a CRIME to circumvent a technological measure put in place to limit your access to digital media. Copying a DVD is still perfectly legal, but decrypting the CSS to be able to do so is a crime.

      So no more wasting their own money to protect their copyrights. They get to waste taxpayer money sending the feds out doing their dirty work for them.

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  4. Re:"Fair use is not a law" by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    JV understands, like GWB, that if you repeat a lie often enough, the sheep eventually swallow it.

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  5. An Answer for Valenti on CD's by jimsum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was surprised to discover that Valenti is also concerned about the music industry:

    "The music industry now is suffering nine, ten, fifteen percent losses in revenue. When you compound that over the next three or four years, the music industry is dead. I don't see a future for it. After awhile, who's going to produce it?"

    I think I can answer his question. I suspect that the same producers will still be available if the music industry dies; I doubt that all the producers will be killed.

    I think the question he really wanted to ask was "who's going to PAY to produce it?" The answer right now is that the musicians themselves pay to produce; the record companies just front them the money. If the musicians become about as popular as Britney Spears, they can earn enough to pay back the production costs out of their royalties.

    So the question really is, who is going to front the musicians production money when record companies can no longer make obscene profits from their control of music distribution?

    There are some possible answers to that, which I'll illustrate from experiments done by one of my favorite groups, King Crimson. The band owns its own record label, and they make 10 times as much money per copy on the CD's on their own label, compared to the CD's that they license the Record companies to distribute. Even if the current music distribution system collapses along with Valenti's predicted collapse of record companies, then independent record companies can still use their distribution methods.

    Although King Crimson is a popular enough band to be able to provide their own production money, only their new releases are sure to make back the money. They also have a scheme for paying the cost of producing CD's from old concert recordings. They ask their fans to front them the money by contributing to an account, from which they buy for the CD's that they want from the ones that are produced.

    Musicians and producers will survive the death of the current music industry. More and more musicians are bypassing the current record companies because of how badly they are being ripped off. I am confident that music will still be produced because either the artists or their fans will be able to front the production costs. If the big multi-national record companies no longer monopolize the distribution and promotion systems, I think you will find that the artists themselves will be able to take over. After all, the current system is really only helping the small number of hugely popular acts that dominate MTV. All other acts are simply getting screwed by the current system, which charges them for all the costs, but gives them only a tiny percentage of the earnings.

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