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Blacker Than Black

An anonymous reader writes "British scientists at the National Physical Laboratory in London have invented the darkest material on Earth. 'It could revolutionise optical instruments because it reflects 10 to 20 times less light than the black paint currently used to reduce unwanted reflections. The key to the nickel and phosphorous coating's blackness is that its surface is pitted with microscopic craters.' Wonder how effective it would be as a solar heating surface ?"

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  1. fuligin? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Informative


    OK, now we know what fuligin is made of.

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  2. Absorb or absorb not, there is no reflect by nusuth · · Score: 5, Informative

    The light that is neither transmitted nor reflected is absorbed. If it is totally opaque too it has to be also a good solar heating surface. That said, one might be a very good absorber at particular wavelengths, but transparent or reflective at others. The cavities should act as a blackbody and operate at a wide range of frequencies though.

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  3. amature astronomy by Njerd · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would love to see this used to coat the vanes that support the secondary mirrors of reflector type telescopes. Diffraction spikes (the little spikes on relatively bright stars) are really the reflection of light on these little supports. If you are into photographing nebulae, having a bright star in view can be a real photo killer.

    1. Re:amature astronomy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Diffraction spikes are caused by just that, diffraction, not reflections - you'd have the same diffraction spikes whether the vanes were chromed or 100% absorbent. If it were actually simple reflection, you'd only have three spikes on stars seen through a reflector with a 3-vane secondary, instead of the six spikes that you'll actually see. Also, you'd still have visual artifacts with curved vanes. Curved vanes only reduce the contrast slightly, and don't otherwise visibly affect the image to any great degree.

  4. Martin Black by mikeselectricstuff · · Score: 5, Informative

    The book 'The Hubble Wars' mentions a coating called 'Martin Black' developed by Lockheed-Martin for use in spy satellites - I wonder how this stuff compares. I found some info Here : The 'Martin Black' is not a paint at all, but a specially etched aluminum surface that acts like an anechoic chamber on a microscopic scale. The surface looks like an array of very steep pyramids a few wavelengths of light apart. It's extremely fragile & expensive to produce, but was never a classified process. Mostly used in aerospace optical hardware such as star trackers & imaging systems that have to work in direct sunlight. Ball Aerospace has a version of this process. It's considered to be a 'proprietary' process, ie they won't tell you how it's done for commercial reasons.

  5. A Tad more detail by dmontreuil · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a little more detail and a few pictures at http://www.npl.co.uk/optical_radiation/superblack. html

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  6. Well... by caveat · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...this is a Good Thing for production instruments, but it won't matter much for research/labwork/prototypes; right now I'm working on laser detection of single atmospheric particles; we needed a *black* coating for the inside of the chamber, but it didn't need to be particularly robust, just dark - so we smoked it with a flame. Carbon black is the least reflective substance known, IIRC it absorbs something like 99.996% of incident radiation...anybody who's seen the inside of an old kerosene lamp chimney knows exactly what they mean in the article when they talk about the 'black velvet' appearance. We did have some problems with it 'popcorning' as we pumped the chamber down, but a staged evacuation with good degassing periods took care of that.

    Oh, this would make a great solar heating material - somebody mentioned the specific heat of the material, but as long as you have a thin layer backed by a heatsink, the specific heat doesn't matter (it's just the amount of heat a material can contain per gram; if you have just just a tiny bit of black substance, it doesn't matter how much heat it stores); it's all about the absorbtion.

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  7. Re:Unwanted shoes by hplasm · · Score: 1, Informative

    Don't use your own shoes..

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  8. Solar heating by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 2, Informative
    This will be (almost) no better for absorbing heat than conventional matt black.

    Say conventional black paint reflects 1% of the radiation. This stuff reflects, say, 0.1%. If you are building optical instruments then that is a 90% decrease in ambient reflections from internal surfaces, which is really useful.

    But if you are interested in harvesting energy then the absorbancy has gone up from 99% to 99.9%, which is an increase of just 0.9% over what we had before. Gee.

    Paul.

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  9. Re:The name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Gene Wolfe didn't coin it: Its from heraldry, and from latin terms for coal.

    The opposite term is "argent"

  10. the ENHANCED greenhouse effect *sigh* by CharlieO · · Score: 2, Informative

    this may alleviate the greenhouse effect ... maybe ...

    I'd rather hope not

    As my old Professor used to say "its the ENHANCED Greenhouse Effect thats the environmental problem, the normal Greenhouse Effect is what keeps us alive"

    If our Atmosphere didn't 'trap' a certain amount of the incident energy from the sun, and the Oceans didn't transport this around the surface then out little planet would resemble a snowball.

    This is what happens in an ice age when the Ocean/Atmosphere system flips into another metastable state and the large amount of ice and snow on the surface significantly changes the reflective properites of the planet and the whole system cools.

    First we need to understand how this delicate balance actually works before we try and fix it. One thing we are learning is that the Ocean/Atmosphere system is not the safe stable thing we assumed it was, but its very dynamic with a number of metastable states. It can and has switched between states on a geologically quick (5000 years) timescale without much provocation. The bad news is that sustaining life is easy in the current state, it gets much harder in some of the others.

    Like a pH buffered solution its quite possible that our environment can tolerate and compensate for all the stuff we chuck into it, and then suddenly flip to another state.

    Oh, and the increment improvement in absorbtion will do very little to help solar collectors - the problem with solar collectors is doing something useful with the heat once you've got it, not getting it in the first place. Find me a material thats twice as good as a thermocouple than current technology and we may be on to something...

  11. Re:The name by dazed-n-confused · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fuligin.

    (cf. Gene Wolfe's "Shadow of the Torturer" for details).

  12. Re:...also, it's already black enough by grahamlee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is it? I was under the impression that the chromosphere kindof messed that up a little. Oh, and the Sun isn't in thermal equilibrium with anything. Actually, I suppose its own gravitational energy counts (over sufficiently short timescales)...executive decision? OTOH phenomena such as sunspots and other surface effects remove any homogeneity from the radiation, and don't forget the solar neutrino emission which is unlikely to be in thermal equilibrium.

    Typically, black bodies are approximated by hollow ceramic ovens with a gold lining. The oven has a small hole in the side and is heated to the melting point of gold Thus you know exactly the temperature of the sides of the oven, you make the hole small enough that effusion doesn't upset the thermal equilibrium, et voila you have a blackbody standard.

  13. "Martin Black" has been available for years by mfago · · Score: 3, Informative

    Martin Marietta (now Lockheed Martin) has produced a proprietary "super black" coating for years now. I've seen it, and it is _very_ non-reflective. The coating mentioned in the article sounds similar.

    "Martin Black" is proprietary though, so if you want a part coated you have to send it to Lockheed.

  14. Re:10 to 20 times less? by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 4, Informative

    If old stuff reflects X, and new stuff reflects 90% less, then new stuff reflects X-X*(90/100) = 0.1*X.

    If old stuff reflects X, and new stuff reflects 100% less, then new stuff reflects zero.

    With me still?

    100% of X _is_ one times X.

    Ten times X _is_ 1000% of X.

    With me still?

    Something that reflects 10 times less than the old stuff reflects 1000% less than the old stuff, and therefore reflects -9*X.

    With me still?

    The original wording is misleading. The original complaint against it was valid. Instead they should have put something more like:

    The new material reflects 1/10th to 1/20th of the amount that the old material reflected.

    The new material is 10 to 20 times less reflective than the old material.

    YAW.

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  15. Jack London, "The Shadow and the Flash" by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's an amusing story by Jack ("Call of the Wild") London entitled "The Shadow and the Flash." It's one of about a dozen stories he wrote that would be categorized as science fiction had the genre existed then.

    Two competitive brothers both seek the secret of personal invisibility via divergent, and completely bogus methods. One of them finds some way to make his entire body perfectly transparent (!) in the belief the perfect transparency equals invisibility, and apparently gets his index of refraction close to unity but still has some dispersion, because although he is invisible, he produces telltale rainbow-colored flashes.

    The other one searches for a perfect black, in the even stranger belief that an object covered in perfect black reflects no light and is therefore invisible. According to the story, this works except that, of course, he casts a shadow--and when he's present, even when not casting a shadow his presence creates an ill-defined sense of darkness or gloom.

  16. Re:What's blacker than black... by Raiford · · Score: 3, Informative
    A little physics awnsers this. No ! If the surface is optically rough as resulting from these little microcraters then internal specular reflection will only occur for wavelengths smaller than the crater size. Diffraction will occur as you get to sizes on the order of the crater size and just plane old specular reflection from a rough surface will occur for wavelengths larger than the crater size. This is a simple explanation but it captures the idea of how this kind of thing works. If the material already has a fairly high intrinsic absorptivity then multiple internal reflection will cause the effective reflectivity to be extremely low. Longer wavelengths will have a tendancy to not even see the little craters and probably give a higher reflectivity. There are things that make the problem more complex. There are most likely a distribution of crater sizes that interact differently with the incident light and the intrinsic absorptivity of the material is most likely dispersive (dependent on the wavelength of the incident radiation).

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  17. More information in New Scientist by Simon+Field · · Score: 2, Informative


    A slightly more informative article is here.

    They give the recipe.

  18. More info about composition by mattr · · Score: 2, Informative
    More info here mentioning composition, of which I'll quote just a part (see the article for a graph and mention of applications):

    Stalagmites and craters

    By examining the surface of hundreds of alloy plates under an electron microscope, NPL has discovered where previous researchers went wrong. It has developed a two-stage technique that produces the blacker black New Scientist saw emerge from the acid tank last week.

    In the first stage, an object to be blackened is immersed for five hours in a solution of nickel sulphate and sodium hypophosphite. This produces a nickel and phosphorus coating containing between five and seven per cent phosphorus. Then the surface is etched with nitric acid to produce the super-black surface structure.

    One of the crucial discoveries, says Brown, was how the percentage of phosphorus in the nickel coating affected the surface after etching. An electron micrograph of the surface of an alloy containing more than eight per cent phosphorus (see graphic) looks like a collection of stalagmites.

    But if the phosphorus content is around six per cent the surface becomes pitted with craters. The curved craters reflect less light that the straighter-sided stalagmites, so super-black reflects about half as much light as the high-phosphorus surfaces.

    Right angle

    Super-black is especially effective at absorbing light that hits it at an angle. With the light source at right angles the super-black coating reflects less than 0.35 per cent. Black paint, by comparison, reflects about 2.5 per cent, or seven times as much. With the light source at an angle of 45, black paint reflects 25 times as much light as the super-black.

    And.. they've been working on it for a while, here is text from their 2000 lab review pdf.

    NPL Super Black In order to make accurate measurements in the UV, IR and visible regions, optical instruments and sensors need surfaces with very low reflectance. These black surfaces are used as efficient radiation detectors or may reduce stray light in an instrument. Highly efficient black surfaces allow smaller, lighter instruments to be made, which is an important advantage in aerospace applications. NPL has successfully developed a very high quality optical black ] known as NPL Super Black. The process uses an adapted nickel phosphorus electroless plating technique followed by finely controlled etching and gives probably the blackest surface known in the visible region. NPL has successfully and repeatedly produced the Super Black coating on a small-scale ecottage industryf basis for a number of years. It is now for upgrading and validating the process for plating much larger substrates with this high quality optical black. The upgrade has led to an opportunity to collaborate with CNES, Astrium and Sodern, the major space contractors for the European Space Agency, on the space evaluation of the black. If successful this will open up many new opportunities for supplying coated optics to the aerospace industry.