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Good News For Creating Quicktime On Linux

An anonymous reader writes "It's now possible to capture DV Quicktime files in Linux, splitting automatically at any predetermined size, and seamless importing the files to Windows (may be possible with Macs too but I don't have one to test with). The new version of Kino is out and it supports Quicktime." This requires that you specifically configure Kino to handle QuickTime, at least in this version. Read on below for a few notes about the submitter's experience with Kino, Cinelerra, Cinestream and other A/V editing tools.

"I've been finding Kino handy for capturing from VHS and Hi-8 because the auto-split avoids sync issues with large files. Cinestream (Windows NLE) can't seem to keep long captures in sync when I use my Sony DVMC-DA1 box but capturing in Kino has been a simple un-attended workaround. Now that it captures in Quicktime, it's even better because I can feed the Quicktime files directly to Cinestream with no pre-processing, and the quality is very good.

If you also install Cinelerra, you can also view some types of Quicktime in Linux. Cinelerra is an awesome multi-track NLE with several supplied effects/transitions/filters, but it also includes "X movie," which plays DV files captured with Cinestream as well as some other types (but nothing with Sorenson).

Both Cinelerra and Kino can open and edit Quicktime files from Cinestream.

Oh, what about audio? I've been trying a program called " Ardour" which is a real-time 24-track hard-disk recorder on Linux. Of course it's useful for "simpler" things too like a precision audio editor.

Check out the screenshots.

So Linux is coming a long way as a viable platform for high-quality editing (with nice interfaces too). And since it and the apps are free, that goes a long way. Microsoft said in a recent filing that it may be forced to lower prices due to competition from free software. Maybe one day the only people who pay for an editing package will be those who need support or buy it preconfigured with hardware."

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  1. Re:its a bit late by NamShubCMX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what? Once it will be there it will. Being late or not won't matter anymore...

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  2. Re:Why is this `good news` ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I dont' know about that...every DivX I've seen has been so horrible as to be basically unwatchable. It's good for previewing something, but there's no way I'd watch something more than once with it. The only exception to that is a movie I downloaded which is never going to be released, so DivX is my only options.

    Using theforce.net as your basis for disliking Quicktime is a bad idea. Go view the trailers at www.apple.com/quicktime for a better idea of what QT can do. It's all about the codecs at this point, not the container.

  3. Re:Why is this `good news` ? by halfelven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It depends on who makes them. A 90-100 minutes movie can be transcoded to DivX, can still fit into 700Mb and have an image quality reasonably close to the original. But you have to know the tricks. ;-)

  4. This ain't a race. It's a bout getting stuff done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sorry to offend you, but: Duh.

    Right, I see what you mean, btw: Linux "lost" the "game" and the others "won". Yippee. Kudos to the proprietary (which should be listed under to "needlessly expensive" in the thesaurus) solutions. They get a point.

    I'm looking forward, however, to the day when you're still paying through the nose (or any other available orifice MS might like you to use) for things I'm getting (for) free.

    (Notice the carefully worded meaning: the software IS free when I get it FOR free. Meaning "free" as in "speech" - and as in "beer".)

    (And i'll figure it out for you for free, too: I can work for my clients for less than you can, then. Or simply have a much larger profit margin. That way, you ACTUALLY lose and I ACTUALLY win. See you in the real world, chum.)

  5. Re:its a bit late by amigaluvr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not so sure about this.

    I mean quicktime may be good and all but it is proprietary. It makes you locked into using a format that is out of your control.

    What happens when the patent holders withdraw or change formats? How about when new better ones come in and the old is abandoned?

    Suddenly your media files are not working anymore. You'll find there's little you can do about this but rant and hoo-haa. A better solution would be proper support of the open formats. Not only are they open free and gueranteed to work, but they are often better than the commercial alternatives.

  6. Re:its a bit late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Late for what? Has "high-quality editing" gone out of style or something? I will go way out on a limb here and say that there will still be a need for good a/v editing tools the future, not to mention free ones.

    If the post was supposed to be funny, well, sorry, I missed it...

  7. Open Sorenson, Save As DivX by markv242 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is a bad, bad idea. Sorenson-encoded video is already extremely compressed; by re-encoding it as DivX, you have to go through another round of compression, making the video even worse quality.

    What you really want is to be able to import uncompressed video via Firewire (or DV-compressed video, like what the story mentions) and edit it from there.

    "I can't wait until the day I plug a Firewire dv cam into a mandrake box, a dv cam icon pops up on the desktop and allows joe to edit away to his heart's content."

    If you're willing to shell out $999 for an iBook, you can have this today. Cheers! Enjoy Gnome 2.2 (snicker)....

  8. Of course by gallir · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Go to Bulma (spanish).

    In Debian is basically:

    apt-get install qt6codecs

    If you have:

    deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

    in your sources.list.

    BTW: why the parent was moderated "funny"?

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  9. Re:Apple's Legal Department by StarTux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Apple see enough people using Linux for Quicktime they ought to release software native to the platform if it is showing signs of growth.

    This is the trouble with the current corporations, they seem to wait for someone else to create the market and then muscle their way in. The danger here I believe is losing out on the market and have some other company (or group) gain the share. Of course the alternative is to sue potential competitor out of existence...

    StarTux