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Gamers, Upgrade your Systems

jbischof writes "Looking to upgrade your aging PC? Ace's Hardware has a new upgrade guide tailored specifically to gamers. The data shows exactly which upgrades - processor, motherboard, gfx card, or combination of the three - will give the best performance boost on all the latest and most popular games (according to their recent poll)."

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  1. Games? by Corrupt+System · · Score: 5, Funny

    I only upgrade my computer to increase benchmark scores.

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  2. Re:Ode to drunken gamers... by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but how many times can you play Photoshop? I mean, the final map is pretty weak and that last boss is a major disapointment.

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  3. results are from a poll eh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    well if car performace was ranked by the opinions of their drivers, the honda prelude would beat a ferrari and Neons everywhere would outdo porsche.

    useless

    1. Re:results are from a poll eh... by Lawbeefaroni · · Score: 4, Funny


      Video Card Upgrade:
      We upgrade the Geforce 2 Ti 200 to more trendy video cards, such as the Geforce 4 MX 440, Geforce 4 Ti 4200/4600 and Radeon 9700 Pro (Tyan Tachyon G9700). We also check with a Geforce 3 Ti 200 and Radeon 8500, as both videoards featured an excellent price/performance ratio and have been very popular.


      Aww, come on. You mean to tell me you don't buy parts based on how "trendy" they are?

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  4. The funny thing about this, by dlb · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..is that the guys who are willing to drop a metric buttload of coin for upgrading their gaming computer, are probably the same ones who were bitching about the $20 download of x86 Solaris.

    1. Re:The funny thing about this, by Tim+Doran · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good lord - you mean there are imperial buttloads?!?

      Glad I live in Canada...

  5. Bad guide... by YahoKa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I really don't like their guides. I find the best one is the sharky gamers guide to system building (at different budgets.) Check it out @ www.sharkyextreme.com

  6. Blah by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I played Unreal 2 for a few hours last night on my wont-work obsolete need-an-upgrade Radeon 7200. Guess what? My obsolete out-of-date SB Live! card - not even 5.1 sound, mind you, a paltry 4 channels - worked just fine too. I've recently upgraded my mobo and CPU and bought a new HD. And I didnt spring for the absolutely necessary 8meg cache version either.

    How did the tech industry manage to convince everyone that they absolutely need the latest and greatest bullshit? The machine they were 'upgrading' from is perfectly adequate to play every game they benchmarked.

    1600x1200 with FSAA and AF is nice, but it doesnt make the games any funner.

    Here's my upgrade guide. I wait until I want to play a particular game, and if I absolutely cant, I upgrade. And I double my current specs.

    Unreal 2 is a bore, BTW, for those looking for a review.

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    1. Re:Blah by Cruciform · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Windows will still write to the pagefile even if you have RAM to spare.

      For example, my machine with 512 meg of RAM has an OS footprint of about 89 meg with XP installed. That leaves me with over 400 meg of physical RAM free. But when I run a game that uses up 100 meg of that RAM, 60 meg ends up in the page file. There's no good reason for it to do so that I know of, but it happens anyway. I almost never hit the limit of my physical RAM but I'm still stuck with that page file and the thrashing that goes with it.

      I've found that turning it off in Windows performance settings can get a temporary boost but long before I hit the ceiling I start getting "low on memory" errors. If the OS would utilize the RAM to its full potential first, I'd be much happier. Otherwise why do I have 512 meg in my machine?

  7. Just buy a console! by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know, I know, I'm a troll. Moderate away. But, geez, does tech really matter any more. You can't buy a system, console or PC, that doesn't draw millions of texture mapped triangles per second, doesn't have awesome sound, and so on. It's all so pointless. If money is not an issue, as it certainly wouldn't be to someone who constantly upgrades video cards and such, $160 will get you a nice Game Cube and Mario Sunshine. Or get an X-Box with Splinter Cell. Or whatever.

    The bottom line is that the PC tech race has lost all purpose, except to stroke the ego of hardware fanboys. And, man, do those guys need the ego stroking.

    1. Re:Just buy a console! by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This guide is better titled "how to make up for your tiny penis". There's absolutely nothing on their list thats needed to take advantage of todays "cutting edge" games.

      Todays "cutting edge" games are designed to play on 3 or 4 year old hardware - because the publishers want to sell it to more than the 2% who runs out to buy the latest videocard.

      I always think Simpsons when another gamer-tech review comes out. "It's slightly faster... TO THE MAX!"

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  8. Wrong kind of burner by Autonymous+Toaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, I thought that read Ace hardware. That's where I get all my upgrades.

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  9. MX for gaming? please... by zhevek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this really news? There are many many sites that have system guides updated once a month... is this site that much better of a system guide?

    The first priority for a gamer, especially a FPS gamer, should be a good video card. However, their first suggestion listed is a Geforce 4 MX 440 over a TI 200, then they don't even provide benchmarks for the Geforce 4 MX? And for that matter, why would any self respecting FPS gamer buy a MX card of any type from Nvidia when the TIs are so much better?

  10. You know you're an F1 fan when... by DG · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...you see this screenshot:

    http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=50000363 ...and know not only what track you're on, but that the car is in a position (in the braking area leading up to the chicane, on the wrong side of the track, with a couple of degrees of steering lock in the wrong direction) to crash in the next heartbeat.

    DG

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    1. Re:You know you're an F1 fan when... by gosand · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yeah, well he's playing Montoya, so even if he survived the crash he'd just blow up the engine half-way through the race. ;)

      Nah, he would be on the pole with the fastest qualifying time, lose the lead in the first corner to Schumie, make an incredibly dangerous and breathtaking pass to regain the lead a few laps later, THEN blow the engine.

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  11. Speaking of upgrades... by Glytch · · Score: 5, Funny

    New motherboard: CAN$119.

    Athlon 2100+: CAN$206.

    512MB RAM: CAN$115.

    Realizing you have no cash left to replace your 16MB NVidia TNT2: Priceless.

  12. Ask Slashdot: Stereo Gaming? by VoidEngineer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, so I'm only vaguely impressed with Ace's gaming system... Seems to me like they're splitting hairs over upgrades of off-the-shelf equipment. Here's my question for all of you slashdotters:

    Given the above article, and the premise that slashdotters have a wider range of experience than Ace, what would be the ideal configuration for a stereo-video enabled gaming system? Say I want something that can run Stereo-Quake or Stereo-Descent... Also assume that cost isn't really a factor (wish that were true, but I'm just pipe dreaming here...).

    Besides the CPU and motherboard, there's also things like monitors (stereo projection monitors?), controllers (throttles, immersion gloves, goggles), stereo audio systems (THX?), and even room design. What would slashdotters put together with a beefy $50K to $100K budget, eh? Assume that the project is to put together the ultimate stereo-Quake VR simulator, and that you have access to the code of the game...

  13. Show me the money by ianscot · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Somebody point me to a cost comparison of how the two approaches work:

    - upgrading PC every one or two years to keep up with the latest card-crushing games.

    - buying the latest and greatest console every two years.

    Seems like the console's a no brainer. When you need a new box for other reasons, you'll get one that's up-to-date for the latest titles... but why go through this cost and hassle when you can get a pop-it-in-it-plays system for $200 and no labor?

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  14. Re:Oh Please... by suman28 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows is the gamers platform of choice
    Correction... Windows is the game makers' choice of platform. It is unfortunate that the games get sucked into it because of lack of game choices for other operating systems. I am sure that will change soon enough.

  15. Parent has a point. by RatBastard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The paren post has a valid point. Like a lot of people I know, I am getting sick of the hell that is the constant Upgrade Cycle. I'm tired of upgrading my system to play the latest and greatest only to find that my favorite games no longer work. Upgraded your video card? Oops. All those old 3DFX-specific games no longer work. New processor? Too bad it's too fast and a whole batch of games (thanks a pantload, Origin) run too damned fast. Opps! Looks like that new soundcard killed off a few games. New version of Windows? Guess what? Yep. More games died.

    Three years worth of upgrades (and often less) seems to kill most of the games I have. (Save Quake and it's kin.)

    Compare that to the consoles. All of my old Playstation games still work (save the one I ran over with my chair, but that's my fault). Some of those games were made in 1996/1997. Most games for the PC from those days no longer work.

    Is that a "So what? Thems is old games!" I hear? Bite me. I spent money on those games and it annoys the hell out of me that this sad state of affairs has come to pass.

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  16. The Rule of the Three by or_smth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's my little rule for upgrading my system.

    Replace every three generations, or when things are three times as fast as your current device.

    Simple, isn't it? For the past 10 (or so) I've worked on that little rule and it's lead me exactly where I want to go.

    My 486 became a Pentium II 266 became a Pentium III 800 became an Athlon 2400+.

    My something rather (I think it was an S3 Virge, but this was in the days when no one cared anyway) became a Voodoo 2 became a Geforce 256 became a Radeon 8500 (Which I bought budget at $100 canadian).

    My Gravis Ultrasound became a Sound blaster Live became a Hercules Game Theater XP became Nforce2 Dolby Digital output.

    It's strange how well this system worked out. Just as my machine became almost unbearable for games (About a 30FPS average for most games) I've upgraded because of this 3x rule. Sure, it means that you won't be at the bleeding edge for very long but the edge is too easy to fall off anyway. Only idiots would skip from a Radeon 8500 to a 9700, just as it would be stupid to ditch a 2400+ Athlon for a 2.8ghz P4. At the same time, people who tell that a 500mhz and a Voodoo 3 is enough for anyone are obviously not playing any modern games. The trick is to get caught in between the two extremes.

  17. If cost *really* isn't an issue . . . by phantumstranger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    then I'm heading over to Alienware's gaming systems and drooling for a little before I buy. If money is an issue (which it is for me) then I'm going through the time to research Price Watch until my fingers bleed and building a killer box that way.

    Regardless, if I'm not in the mood to build a box I think I'd trust Alienware for a gaming machine over anyone else out there.

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  18. Re:Now I'd like advice for other types of users by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    What components should I get to maximize Photoshop and such?

    Just click that widget in the upper left corner, dude. You don't need any tools or "components" for that.

    Any sites that offer such advice?

    Ok, you're insisting:
    HOWTO: Maximize Button

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  19. "Gamer's Linux" by LoudMusic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps someone needs to make a Linux for Gamers distribution. Include all the free games, all the demo games, and make it stupid easy. Include a stupid easy email client and Mozilla ... and XMMS. It needs nothing else. Sell the idea to people like Blizzard, Sierra, and EA. It could be like console systems, with upgradable hardware. It could have software that checks for driver updates for their hardware, and has an overclocker app.

    Shit, you could even do the hardware route. I bet AlienWare would pick it up if it were good enough. They're doing the MS Media Center thing as it is.

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