PATRIOT II Legislation Leaked

Buck Mulligan writes "The Center for Public Integrity reports that it has obtained a copy of PATRIOT II -- a huge law enforcement power grab that is intended to build on the USA PATRIOT Act. It's called the 'Domestic Security Enhancement Act.' CPI says it would increase domestic intelligence gathering and surveillance while reducing judicial review and public access to information. For more on the first PATRIOT Act, see the EPIC page."

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Just what...

[brsmith4]

civil liberties have we given up? I can still do the same shit I was doing even before bush was in office or even before Patriot. The DMCA was put in BEFORE bush and even that hasn't affected my life. How has any of this affected you? Have any of YOU been wire tapped lately? Have any of YOU had your homes searched for no reason? Have any of YOU been hauled off to jail out of the blue? Have any of YOU had your book collection thrown out in the street and burned with everyone elses? Have any of you been shipped to a death camp in a car with 100 others, crying, screaming and wallowing in your own feces as well as the feces of others?I didn't think so. I think /. is over-dramatizing these Patriot laws that get passed. The day that ANY of these things happens to someone that is NOT an extremely shady character to begin with, is the day you can bitch. But as far as I can tell, none of these laws have impeded on a single civil liberty since their inception. If you can think of something I could do before Patriot that I cannot do now, please, please post.

Re:Just what...

[Tackhead]

> It reminds me of some german Pastor who said something like
>
> "First they came for the Jews
> and I did not speak out
because I was
...not a Jew, and living comfortably in NYC, it was fashionable to sympathize with the plightofthepalestinians.

Then they came for the WTC,
and I did not speak out,
because I did not work there. And I hated my broker anyway.

Then they came for the capitalists pumping oil in Venezuela,
and I did not speak out,
because I was not a capitalist. Viva Chavez!

Then they came for the troops overseas,
and I did not speak out,
because I was not a soldier and will never have to be one.

Then they came for the Starbucks around the corner, killing 10 with an explosive belt,
and I did not speak out,
because I only drink coffee brewed from organic beans grown under "fair trade" guidelines.

Then they came for the trite,
and 10 kilotons later, there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Re:Hail Bush!

[testadicazzo]

I agree with this sentiment, and DO NOT consider it flamebait.

While I would agree that the bush administration is the closest thing in the modern world to a nazi regime, Bush isn't a hitler. He's a goddman puppet. At least reagan could remember his lines. This guys embarassing.

actually

[ArchieBunker]

If you look at the political scale Bush is on the right wing and Hitler (being a socialist) was on the left. Its laughable to even compare them.

So, what's life like in Canada? A dictatorship.

[Mashiki]

I am a Canadian, I was raised in canada, I have lived abroad. Things have gone down hill, despite the nay sayers.

We haveour own bill called C17. It's basicly the same as the patriot act.

Under the freedom of information act you can get anything, as long as you are willing to pay the money. I wanted some information regarding who is getting money for some of these tarrifs. Too bad they only wanted to charge me $30,000 canadian for it.

The goverment wants to control every part of your life and is moving for it. Every school in ontario teaches exactly the same thing, from exactly the same book and anything the goverment doesn't agree with or is contraversial is supressed.

TV is censored, despite our charter of rights and freedoms. American satellite dishes and C/KU band dishes are illegal, you can be thrown in jail for owning one.

The rights and freedoms are being eroded faster in canada, then anywhere else in the world right now.

Our goverment has been data mining and collecting information on citizens for years.

Books and other media are regularly seized at the border and held for ever if not destroyed. Customs has a quota to read and open any mail coming into the country and report on it's contents.

We have our own secert police that is accountable to no one, and no I am not a crack pot. CISIS has power the likes citizens haven't seen since the gestapo. They can wiretap your phones on a whim, no court orders. They can bug your house, hold you forever if they want. That's just a start.

Regular police can hold you for 60 days, and then require a judge to extend it beyond that.

CCTV is becoming a normal occurance all over the country.

The goverment is pushing for biometric ID's for everyone in the country, and with the "fall in line or loose your seat" politics in canada, you can be sure it will get passed.

You might wonder why I am still living here, it's because I'm fighting the goverment in it's own courts against this type of crap.

This is only a small taste of the DPR of Canada. Socialism run amok is the root cause, and you can see what it's gotten you in europe.

Before I forget, Trudeau tried to get canada to become a communist country back when he was in power. Many of the idea's have stuck around, and you can see them when you live here.