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PATRIOT II Legislation Leaked
Buck Mulligan writes "The Center for Public Integrity reports that it has obtained a copy of PATRIOT II -- a huge law enforcement power grab that is intended to build on the USA PATRIOT Act. It's called the 'Domestic Security Enhancement Act.' CPI says it would increase domestic intelligence gathering and surveillance while reducing judicial review and public access to information. For more on the first PATRIOT Act, see the EPIC page."
Eat me you cockgobblers!
The Paranoid Brotherhood of Legal Staffers has uncovered a plot to take away all of our rights. Obviously it is a secret plot, and the way to prevent it from coming to fruition is to donate generously to our Political Organization.
A press release will follow.
civil liberties have we given up? I can still do the same shit I was doing even before bush was in office or even before Patriot. The DMCA was put in BEFORE bush and even that hasn't affected my life. How has any of this affected you? Have any of YOU been wire tapped lately? Have any of YOU had your homes searched for no reason? Have any of YOU been hauled off to jail out of the blue? Have any of YOU had your book collection thrown out in the street and burned with everyone elses? Have any of you been shipped to a death camp in a car with 100 others, crying, screaming and wallowing in your own feces as well as the feces of others?I didn't think so. I think /. is over-dramatizing these Patriot laws that get passed. The day that ANY of these things happens to someone that is NOT an extremely shady character to begin with, is the day you can bitch. But as far as I can tell, none of these laws have impeded on a single civil liberty since their inception. If you can think of something I could do before Patriot that I cannot do now, please, please post.
While I would agree that the bush administration is the closest thing in the modern world to a nazi regime, Bush isn't a hitler. He's a goddman puppet. At least reagan could remember his lines. This guys embarassing.
Now where's my sweet bukakke?
Can't you Americans do something about it, like have mass shit on the white house lawn session.
Imagine the amount of crap that will be coming from the White house.
from the Vaterland Security? SOunds like they got another 9-11 all lined up. WAKE UP!!!
I'm amazed Americans seem to consider patriotism a good thing. In Europe we learned that during the 20th century when, in two world wars we payed for the patriotism during the 19th century. I guess America will have to start their own world wars before they learn. They are well on the way
Whoever told you that is your enemy!
That's what happens when you sit idly by watch the Nine Gavelers in Black give the Ring of Power to George Orwell Bush. ...
At this point I have to wonder if some of the more ultra right-wingers like Ashcroft are arranging global annihilation so they can see their biblical end game fantasies come true.
A post with this comment gets an Interesting mod? Oh my what retard has mod points. This is one of the dumbest comments ever made in the history of the world as it has no foundation in reality on any level.
Your rights aren't going anywhere and you know it, so quit with all the doomsday, Orwellian scare tactics. If you are that scared, take your ignorant act to one of those utopian societies like France or Denmark.
If you look at the political scale Bush is on the right wing and Hitler (being a socialist) was on the left. Its laughable to even compare them.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
That's odd, I've never met an American that didn't have health care. It's always included as part of a job for the people I know. Sure, you may have to pay part of your premium (like I pay $80/month) but it's no different than if they took the same amount out of your paycheck as taxes and the government covered it. The only real difference is Canadian workers who earn income are picking up the slack for people who don't work. I understand the unemployment rate there is quite a bit higher than in the US and income is much lower. Oh yea, and in the US if you're below a certain income or past a certain age you get free or subsidized health care anyway. Everyone else should get off their ass and get a job. The only people really affected by not having health care are lazy blacks who refuse to get a job, lazy mexican immigrants, and rednecks.
I am a Canadian, I was raised in canada, I have lived abroad. Things have gone down hill, despite the nay sayers.
We haveour own bill called C17. It's basicly the same as the patriot act.
Under the freedom of information act you can get anything, as long as you are willing to pay the money. I wanted some information regarding who is getting money for some of these tarrifs. Too bad they only wanted to charge me $30,000 canadian for it.
The goverment wants to control every part of your life and is moving for it. Every school in ontario teaches exactly the same thing, from exactly the same book and anything the goverment doesn't agree with or is contraversial is supressed.
TV is censored, despite our charter of rights and freedoms. American satellite dishes and C/KU band dishes are illegal, you can be thrown in jail for owning one.
The rights and freedoms are being eroded faster in canada, then anywhere else in the world right now.
Our goverment has been data mining and collecting information on citizens for years.
Books and other media are regularly seized at the border and held for ever if not destroyed. Customs has a quota to read and open any mail coming into the country and report on it's contents.
We have our own secert police that is accountable to no one, and no I am not a crack pot. CISIS has power the likes citizens haven't seen since the gestapo. They can wiretap your phones on a whim, no court orders. They can bug your house, hold you forever if they want. That's just a start.
Regular police can hold you for 60 days, and then require a judge to extend it beyond that.
CCTV is becoming a normal occurance all over the country.
The goverment is pushing for biometric ID's for everyone in the country, and with the "fall in line or loose your seat" politics in canada, you can be sure it will get passed.
You might wonder why I am still living here, it's because I'm fighting the goverment in it's own courts against this type of crap.
This is only a small taste of the DPR of Canada. Socialism run amok is the root cause, and you can see what it's gotten you in europe.
Before I forget, Trudeau tried to get canada to become a communist country back when he was in power. Many of the idea's have stuck around, and you can see them when you live here.
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