If they're giving too much money to the executives, they will go out of business and all kinds of little stations will flourish.
So stop fishing around for reasons they are 'evil' and pumping up hysteria.
People like you have a bag of tricks you use in arguements. 'Class War' is a favorite: you talk about the provebial 'rich men' and how they're undeserving of their wealth. Maybe they are undeserving. If so, they'll eventually fall on their faces. The solution is NOT to get Big Government involved regulating, limiting, and imposing it's will.
Apple Computer did months and months of human factors engineering tests. They determined that the kind of person who was likely to buy a Macintosh wouldn't be able to comprehend more than one mouse button, so voila!
Those Silent 700's were cool, but the paper was damned expensive. Particularly if you logged onto BBSes with long, long login sequences. Let's see... uh... cool ASCII graphic sequence, but it just used up four feet of paper!
Oh, I forgot. Software patents are good on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Unless the entity enforcing the patent is suing a Free Software project...
That explains some of the problems in Massachusets. Who wants to set up business where there's a strong aggressive bureaucracy ready to spring on you with laws every time you change anything? Here in 'flyover land' I pay $7 a month to the trash hauler and they'll take away as much of anyting as I put out there. I try not to overdo it, of course, and piss them off. I scrapped a whole pile of old gear last week and I have a heap of steel chassis waiting. I put out two or three big chunks of it every week. Earlier this week I went to the local metal recycling center and they wouldn't buy or even accept all that steel.
You're nuts if you're pitching away an Athlon 750 w/MB. You can sell something like that on eBay and probably get at least fifty bucks for it, or more.
That sounds great for mainstream users. However, it sounds like a real disaster for old hardware collectors like myself. The companies are basically saying 'turn in your old computer when you get the new one, or suffer a financial penalty.' So all the old machines get sucked back into a scrap area and destroyed. Some of us run Linux or one of the BSDs on our older machines, and the large surplus of older hardware was and is a BIG spur to the development of free software. It's difficult in many cases to get someone to commit an expensive new machine to experimental software but easy to say 'let's put it on one of the old boxes and see what it can do.' The kind of people who run the recycling centers make anybody who is into old hardware tremble with rage. Beautiful PDP-11 boxes broken up with sledgehammers by no-neck morons. It's an abomination.
The first Yggdrasil CD set "Plug and Play Linux" used a pre-1.0 kernel. It doesn't look much like the later versions. The book is a plain white cover with black and green ink. 'Fall 1993'. I just dug it out. It features kernel 0.99.13.
It's probably eventually going to be worth a hell of a lot of money as a collector's item, as the Yggdrasil LGX set is the first ever commercial CDROM release of Linux.
The Penguin mascot was chosen for Linux in part as a joke because Linus had been bitten by a penguin when visiting the zoo on a field trap after speaking at a LUG.
The previous Linux mascot was a platypus. I liked the Linux platypus logos a LOT more than the Penguin stuff. The Platypus logo artwork can be found in ancient Linux archives. I am not sure where they are online, but I have them on some of my older Linux CDROM sets.
I have not anywhere seen a list of the other companies that might have made purchases or license agreements from SCO in the same time period as Microsoft made their deal.
Instead of presenting the issue in that fashion, the tactic has been to isolate Microsoft, make it sound like they've paid off SCO as their toady.
Does anybody have a reference to other firms that have 'made deals' with SCO in the time period since SCO opened their lawsuit against IBM?
When the airline union was taking concessions, the corporate big wigs were getting big bonuses and perks.
You're just waving your 'Class Warfare' flag there. If management is doing an effective job of running the company, even if that means cutting costs by getting rid of some labor featherbedders, then they possibly deserve a bonus. The million buck bonus for the CEO of the company is peanuts compared to the payroll for the blue collar Union members.
I've used a Macintosh, and I've driven a Cadillac.
The Macintosh was like dumbed down and with some really stupid concepts (how come I can't drag the hard drive to the trash can and have it spit the drive out??)
Cadillacs are mushy big boats for geriatrics. I live near a huge retirement home for Freemasons. Those fuckers ALL have big Caddy boats and they're ALWAYS in the way.
I suppose it's a matter of preference. So why is there ALWAYS a superior attitude exuding from people who've paid the extra 70% for a Mac??
Worse here: I have a SparcStation 5 that's been building Mozilla 1.4 on NetBSD 1.6.1 from source for over 24 hours now (it's a 110 MHZ single processor box). By the time the binary is ready 1.5 may be out.
People seem to forget that if the media industries (all hated virulently on slashdot, it seems) are going to make money in the future with digital transfer, they'll need a means to shove content onto our local drives so we can watch it from there. In fact, one of the things that makes me suspicious regarding this new quantitative leap in storage... is that these drives might be DRM enabled in hardware.
Yes, even if P2P is banned somehow, these high capacity drives will be needed. From the point of view of Hollywood, it is imparative that they be widespread, so they can shovel content onto them and charge us their appropriate fees for doing so.
Since they're talking about Linux and not NetBSD, it'll probably be for Linux i386 only. And probably for just one flavor of Linux, i.e. for Red Hat 9.0 or somesuch...
Obviously I am not part of the elite who has. I know, I know, it's a marvelous experience; tremendously high quality software. The music sounds so much better than it does if you download it for free on P2P, go out and get CDs at the library for free, or pay full retail for CDs....
Since I haven't run out and bought a Macintosh, I clearly have no business criticizing them, any more than people who haven't bought a Cadillac have any business mocking the kind of tards who buy them and think they're getting unsurpassable quality in a car...
Problem is, you're speaking to a community that doesn't necessarily have said skills.
This is Slashdot, you know, and one of the most sharpened skills in these parts is clicking on an Excel window whenever the boss comes buy, to cover up the Mozilla window open to Slashdot.
The arrogant 'I don't want to have to sell anything' is going to do a lot of duffs in. It's all about being a generalist, being able to specify, sell, and implement. Not just sitting in a cubible doing one specialized task all week.
The 'Union' crap is what's driving the jobs overseas. I am sorry. I live in a community where there's one big factory. It's said that it will close next year, because it's unprofitable to keep it going, and the Union won't budge one inch. Jobs will be lost, and if people would be allowed to take some wage reductions, they'd still be working.
But the Union Bosses up in the International would lose power. So they'll shut down another plant before they'll budge.
The idea of actually paying for the amount of data you transfer should have a lot of appeal to most people, who don't transfer a lot of data.
It should send shivers through the Free Software community, who have thrived in a world of flat fixed distribution costs. Suddenly, downloading every single Red Hat ISO might not have the appeal it now has. Sites might start having to charge people to download the Linux kernel source tarball... The Kernel developer mailing list will start to cost money to subscribe to....
Why would I need my home router (connected to DSL) to do IPv6? I am connected via PPPoE, and as far as the rest of the world is concerned I'm just one IP address which my ISP can update/replace any time they like. I am definitely not going to use up a whole subnet full of IP addresses locally. And frankly, I am glad to not have boxes with static and publically accessable addresses here at home.
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If they're giving too much money to the executives, they will go out of business and all kinds of little stations will flourish.
So stop fishing around for reasons they are 'evil' and pumping up hysteria.
People like you have a bag of tricks you use in arguements. 'Class War' is a favorite: you talk about the provebial 'rich men' and how they're undeserving of their wealth. Maybe they are undeserving. If so, they'll eventually fall on their faces. The solution is NOT to get Big Government involved regulating, limiting, and imposing it's will.
Is that what you called it in 1993? Yggdrasil called it LGX and I think they wanted that to be their proprietary name for it.
No, no, no!
Apple Computer did months and months of human factors engineering tests. They determined that the kind of person who was likely to buy a Macintosh wouldn't be able to comprehend more than one mouse button, so voila!
Those Silent 700's were cool, but the paper was damned expensive. Particularly if you logged onto BBSes with long, long login sequences. Let's see... uh... cool ASCII graphic sequence, but it just used up four feet of paper!
heh
Oh, I forgot. Software patents are good on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Unless the entity enforcing the patent is suing a Free Software project...
That explains some of the problems in Massachusets. Who wants to set up business where there's a strong aggressive bureaucracy ready to spring on you with laws every time you change anything? Here in 'flyover land' I pay $7 a month to the trash hauler and they'll take away as much of anyting as I put out there. I try not to overdo it, of course, and piss them off. I scrapped a whole pile of old gear last week and I have a heap of steel chassis waiting. I put out two or three big chunks of it every week. Earlier this week I went to the local metal recycling center and they wouldn't buy or even accept all that steel.
You're nuts if you're pitching away an Athlon 750 w/MB. You can sell something like that on eBay and probably get at least fifty bucks for it, or more.
That sounds great for mainstream users. However, it sounds like a real disaster for old hardware collectors like myself. The companies are basically saying 'turn in your old computer when you get the new one, or suffer a financial penalty.' So all the old machines get sucked back into a scrap area and destroyed. Some of us run Linux or one of the BSDs on our older machines, and the large surplus of older hardware was and is a BIG spur to the development of free software. It's difficult in many cases to get someone to commit an expensive new machine to experimental software but easy to say 'let's put it on one of the old boxes and see what it can do.'
The kind of people who run the recycling centers make anybody who is into old hardware tremble with rage. Beautiful PDP-11 boxes broken up with sledgehammers by no-neck morons. It's an abomination.
Here are links to scans of the front and back cover of the first Yggdrasil Linux distro:
Front cover
Back cover
The first Yggdrasil CD set "Plug and Play Linux" used a pre-1.0 kernel. It doesn't look much like the later versions. The book is a plain white cover with black and green ink. 'Fall 1993'. I just dug it out. It features kernel 0.99.13.
It's probably eventually going to be worth a hell of a lot of money as a collector's item, as the Yggdrasil LGX set is the first ever commercial CDROM release of Linux.
The Penguin mascot was chosen for Linux in part as a joke because Linus had been bitten by a penguin when visiting the zoo on a field trap after speaking at a LUG.
The previous Linux mascot was a platypus. I liked the Linux platypus logos a LOT more than the Penguin stuff. The Platypus logo artwork can be found in ancient Linux archives. I am not sure where they are online, but I have them on some of my older Linux CDROM sets.
I have not anywhere seen a list of the other companies that might have made purchases or license agreements from SCO in the same time period as Microsoft made their deal.
Instead of presenting the issue in that fashion, the tactic has been to isolate Microsoft, make it sound like they've paid off SCO as their toady.
Does anybody have a reference to other firms that have 'made deals' with SCO in the time period since SCO opened their lawsuit against IBM?
Howard Dean is unelectable in a general election in the US.
Most Conseratives are cheering on the Howard Dean campaign. He's gonna take the Democratic Party to ruin.
Agreed. And monopolies are anathema to a free market.
When the airline union was taking concessions, the corporate big wigs were getting big bonuses and perks.
You're just waving your 'Class Warfare' flag there. If management is doing an effective job of running the company, even if that means cutting costs by getting rid of some labor featherbedders, then they possibly deserve a bonus. The million buck bonus for the CEO of the company is peanuts compared to the payroll for the blue collar Union members.
I've used a Macintosh, and I've driven a Cadillac.
The Macintosh was like dumbed down and with some really stupid concepts (how come I can't drag the hard drive to the trash can and have it spit the drive out??)
Cadillacs are mushy big boats for geriatrics. I live near a huge retirement home for Freemasons. Those fuckers ALL have big Caddy boats and they're ALWAYS in the way.
I suppose it's a matter of preference. So why is there ALWAYS a superior attitude exuding from people who've paid the extra 70% for a Mac??
Worse here: I have a SparcStation 5 that's been building Mozilla 1.4 on NetBSD 1.6.1 from source for over 24 hours now (it's a 110 MHZ single processor box). By the time the binary is ready 1.5 may be out.
People seem to forget that if the media industries (all hated virulently on slashdot, it seems) are going to make money in the future with digital transfer, they'll need a means to shove content onto our local drives so we can watch it from there. In fact, one of the things that makes me suspicious regarding this new quantitative leap in storage... is that these drives might be DRM enabled in hardware.
Yes, even if P2P is banned somehow, these high capacity drives will be needed. From the point of view of Hollywood, it is imparative that they be widespread, so they can shovel content onto them and charge us their appropriate fees for doing so.
Not saying it's good or bad, just that it is.
Since they're talking about Linux and not NetBSD, it'll probably be for Linux i386 only. And probably for just one flavor of Linux, i.e. for Red Hat 9.0 or somesuch...
Obviously I am not part of the elite who has. I know, I know, it's a marvelous experience; tremendously high quality software. The music sounds so much better than it does if you download it for free on P2P, go out and get CDs at the library for free, or pay full retail for CDs....
Since I haven't run out and bought a Macintosh, I clearly have no business criticizing them, any more than people who haven't bought a Cadillac have any business mocking the kind of tards who buy them and think they're getting unsurpassable quality in a car...
Problem is, the clothing made in overseas sweat shops isn't cheap and crappy. It's just cheap.
Problem is, you're speaking to a community that doesn't necessarily have said skills.
This is Slashdot, you know, and one of the most sharpened skills in these parts is clicking on an Excel window whenever the boss comes buy, to cover up the Mozilla window open to Slashdot.
The arrogant 'I don't want to have to sell anything' is going to do a lot of duffs in. It's all about being a generalist, being able to specify, sell, and implement. Not just sitting in a cubible doing one specialized task all week.
The 'Union' crap is what's driving the jobs overseas. I am sorry. I live in a community where there's one big factory. It's said that it will close next year, because it's unprofitable to keep it going, and the Union won't budge one inch. Jobs will be lost, and if people would be allowed to take some wage reductions, they'd still be working.
But the Union Bosses up in the International would lose power. So they'll shut down another plant before they'll budge.
Really, we need to bust up some unions.
The idea of actually paying for the amount of data you transfer should have a lot of appeal to most people, who don't transfer a lot of data.
It should send shivers through the Free Software community, who have thrived in a world of flat fixed distribution costs. Suddenly, downloading every single Red Hat ISO might not have the appeal it now has. Sites might start having to charge people to download the Linux kernel source tarball... The Kernel developer mailing list will start to cost money to subscribe to....
And spam will die.
Why would I need my home router (connected to DSL) to do IPv6? I am connected via PPPoE, and as far as the rest of the world is concerned I'm just one IP address which my ISP can update/replace any time they like. I am definitely not going to use up a whole subnet full of IP addresses locally. And frankly, I am glad to not have boxes with static and publically accessable addresses here at home.