Slashdot Mirror


Buzz Words, Catch Phrases, and Manager Speak?

rivendahl asks: "I have not seen, or perhaps not looked hard enough, to find an article that taps the core of the American business; buzz words. Personally, I hate buzz words, 'clik' words, cliches, catch phrases, and management speak (lingo). One of my favorite pet-peeves is the term, 'going forward'. This whole new concept of 'going forward' grates [on my] nerves. I currently work at a large international company. I have moved departments in the last six months. In my previous department we were made to read books and attend classes on 'positive, forward thinking' and 'action items', as well as classes on 'accepting total accountability'. It made me sick. Please, I ask the Slashdot community to share your displeasure or buzz words along with a few of your most hated management catch phrases."

35 of 162 comments (clear)

  1. One that always pissed me off... by fobside · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It's time to think outside the box!"

    Who the hell created this box anyway, and how do I know when I'm outside of it?

    1. Re:One that always pissed me off... by canthusus · · Score: 4, Funny
      On a course, we were told to "think outside the box".

      I pointed out that the embedded systems journal uses the motto "Thinking inside the box".

      Nine people looked at me blankly. One doubled up laughing. Spot the geek!

    2. Re:One that always pissed me off... by sysadmn · · Score: 2, Funny

      "It's time to think outside the box!" My standard response: Then why the eff did you put us in cubicles?

      --
      Envy my 5 digit Slashdot User ID!
  2. Leverage by Iamthefallen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Leverage, ugh, it's most often found instead of "use", and it tends to sound horribly wrong each and every time. Perhaps correct grammar and usage, but it doesn't help the lanugage flow, it is overly cumbersome and totally unecessary.
    Just leverage use instead.

    --
    Wax-Museum Fire Results In Hundreds Of New Danny DeVito Statues
    1. Re:Leverage by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Leverage, ugh, it's most often found instead of "use"

      I would prefer "leverage" to the more common obfuscation of "use" heard around here: "utilize." Nobody uses anything any more, we utilize things.

      Other verbs that I've had about enough of: to empower, to facilitate, to take ownership of.

      --

      I write in my journal
    2. Re:Leverage by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 3, Funny

      Only if the contraceptive method produces a bonus. Using a diaphragm, for instance, avoids pregancy, but that's eaxactly what it's supposed to do, so there's no leverage involved. Using a bumpy latex condom, on the other hand, may increase your partner's pleasure, and prevents STD's as well as pregnancy -- that's leverage.

      --

      This next song is very sad. Please clap along. -- Robin Zander

  3. People are making up words now. by reaper20 · · Score: 3, Funny

    My manager to our customer:

    "We chose Oracle and Java because of it's robusticity."

    That's not as sad as the people sitting there nodding pretending they know what the hell he's talking about.

    1. Re:People are making up words now. by charlie763 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Robusticity" is a prefectly cromulent word here in Springfield.

      --
      Welcome to the land of the free...pay toll ahead...no photography...please open your bag...
    2. Re:People are making up words now. by sql*kitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "We chose Oracle and Java because of it's robusticity."

      It's strange that IT people resent management's jargon so much, when IT workers spend the day talking about "gentoo" and "linux" and "emacs" and "fdisk" and many, many other words which don't even exist in English. What is it, resentment that there is another group of people with a private language they use amongst themselves? Every group has their own dialect, just listen to doctors or lawyers or auto mechanics talking amongst themselves.

      "Going forward" means "in the future", but it implies making events unfold rather than just waiting for things to happen. It's a subtle but important difference. "Leverage" is more than just "use", it implies that the thing you are using gives you a disproportionate advantage, like a lever and a pivot. "Synergy" implies emergent properties of a complex system, not just "things working together".

      Frankly, when everyone uses a word, then that becomes a real word. And if you refuse to pick up new words and concepts, you risk irrelevance.

    3. Re:People are making up words now. by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well, God knows that IT has a rich collection of jargon, but "gentoo" and "linux" are simply proper nouns, and theefore have no more need to appear in a dictionary than "Jim" or "Bob" or "General Motors". "Robusticity", on the other hand, is simply mangled, like "embiggen" or "speechify" -- it may have a place in slang or humour, but it would bother me if it came from an evidently serious manager of a service important to my company.

      It's OK with me if my surgeon says that he'll "put his foots in gear and locomote" down to the bar for a drink after work, but if he sits in his office and tells me that he's going to "surgify that malignancicity" I'm looking for new doc.

      --

      This next song is very sad. Please clap along. -- Robin Zander

  4. I'll give you my input on that action item... by Polo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think you're on the same page as this onion piece

  5. I invented a piece of jargon once by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A couple of years ago we were starting a new software company. We were going to make digital media asset management systems. We were going to be like Media 360 or Cumulus only better, if those names mean anything to you.

    One day I was talking to an important prospective customer, a customer who did a lot of different things with their media. They asked me how one system could solve problem X and problem Y, when problems X and Y didn't really have much to do with each other at that company.

    "We don't consider asset management to be a single problem," I said. "Instead, we think of it in terms of a problem space. There are lots of problems that can all be called asset management problems, even though they don't really have anything to do with each other. Rather than trying to solve the asset management problem-- of which there really is no such thing-- we instead apply our technology to the different problems we encounter in the asset management problem space."

    A week later, the entire fucking marketing department was talking about problem spaces. "Problem space" became a synonym for "problem," which is the exact opposite of what I mean. I sat in on a marketing meeting once, and heard the marketing manager say, in all seriousness, "How are we doing on those data sheet problem spaces?" I nearly lost it.

    That company is now teetering on the brink of collapse. I'm no longer with them-- I was ousted by the president because I guess I laughed too hard at his use of the word "paradigm" one time-- but if you get somebody in your office talking about a "problem space," throw him out immediately.

    --

    I write in my journal
    1. Re:I invented a piece of jargon once by cthugha · · Score: 4, Funny

      Serves you right. This is a classic example of why the Prime Directive prohibits the introduction to primitive cultures (e.g. the marketing dept.) of concepts beyond their current level of development. Think about the consequences of your actions in future.

    2. Re:I invented a piece of jargon once by youBastrd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah... yeah... I'm gunna have to... go ahead and ... disagree with you there. :P

      --
      No one has ever fired for blaming Microsoft.
  6. Industry speak by darCness · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not all are management speak; many are just standard
    IT industry speak/marketing speak:

    "synergy"

    "market forces"

    "leverage" instead of "use"

    "solution" instead of "product" or "suite of products"

    "community" for any group, regardless of whether
    they have any real commonality besides using a single
    vendor's product(s)

    "strategy"

    Here's one list

    and another

    Oh, and try the Web Economy Bullshit Generator

    1. Re:Industry speak by ader · · Score: 2, Informative
      • "Turnkey solution" - the 'n' is silent.
      • "mission-critical" - that one's in poor taste at the moment.
      • "best of breed" - pampered, fragile thing that coughs and dies with the first breath of cold air.

      Not forgetting of course: "We're the dot in .com" - and our marketing dept puts the "wank" in "wankers".

      Ade_
      /
      --
      Big Bubbles (no troubles) - what sucks, who sucks and you suck
  7. "Proactive", "action items", "accountability" by ez76 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As often as these terms are used gratuitously, they do serve an important function.

    I guarantee that all of you, at some point in your careers, will have the opportunity to work with people who whine, complain about how things are all fucked up, and bemoan how nobody listens to them and everyone is stupid.

    Generally these same people have no action items, are the least proactive, have no sense of accountability, and in general, do not execute (yet another term).

    Anyone can throw ideas and opinions around. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to recognize that something is horribly wrong and to point it out. It's quite another to take ownership (yet another one) and do something about it.

    If for no other reason, these terms get thrown around alot to remind people that they are ultimately there to contribute, further the company's goals (or actively try to change them) and not just to complain.

    No, I'm not a manager but have been around long enough to know talk is cheap.

  8. EMBIGGEN PARENT UP! by ez76 · · Score: 5, Funny

  9. From the Working Hard / Hardly Working by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 4, Funny

    school of humor...

    -It's good we're doing this Moving Forward, my time machine is broken.
    -I agree on the 5 Action Items, let's call them Tasks for short...
    -Hey, don't be Touching My Base.
    -That's not Deliverables that's DiGiorno!
    -Outside the Box, good idea I need to stretch my legs.
    -Value Added? No just for fun.
    -Let's Interface? I think that's against corporate policy.

    -I didn't Take Ownership, I leased. Now it's John's Action Item. I Thought Outside The Box and Fired It Down the Chain, it's On His Plate now. We're going to Interface on Wednesday. Moving Forward he will be Tasked with this Deliverable. He is Totally Accountable, a real Team Player. So, wanna Do Lunch? Oh I understand if you're Time Constricted. Well it was good we Got This Out On The Table, glad we're On The Same Page with this. We'll Touch Base later, b-bye!

    But on the plus side, I do hear a little less of that crap now.

    --

    Operator, give me the number for 911!
  10. Those irritating managers by Scarblac · · Score: 3, Funny

    All those irritating managers with their incomprehensible buzzwords. I'll just go back to work.

    I'm currently writing a Web App for our intranet where we try to use mostly Open Source (or rather, anything that's free as in beer - since when is beer free anyway?), using J2EE on Tomcat, with Java Server Pages because dumb CGIs are just too damn fast, or something. We have no design phase to speak of but that's ok since we plan to throw this version away. I connect to MySQL with JDBC but I'm going to need some sort of ODBC bridge to also connect it with Access, if we go that route. I must seperate the presentation tier and the business tier, and somehow magic a third tier into existence because that's J2EE - or so it seems. Some HTML hacks in the same office use a language called PHP, but that's not a real language. My main concern is to sneak Python in somewhere.

    (That could have been much worse, but I thought I'd stay close to the truth - it's easily enough to scare managers away :))

    --
    I believe posters are recognized by their sig. So I made one.
  11. Corporate lingo by majestynine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's a little clarification of corporate lingo.

    COMPETITIVE SALARY:
    We remain competitive by paying less than our competitors.

    JOIN OUR FAST-PACED COMPANY:
    We have no time to train you.

    CASUAL WORK ATMOSPHERE:
    We don't pay enough to expect that you'll dress up well; a couple of the
    real daring guys wear earrings.

    MUST BE DEADLINE ORIENTED:
    You'll be six months behind schedule on your first day.

    SOME OVERTIME REQUIRED:
    Some time each night and some time each weekend.

    DUTIES WILL VARY:
    Anyone in the office can boss you around.

    MUST HAVE AN EYE FOR DETAIL:
    We have no quality control.

    CAREER-MINDED:
    Female Applicants must be childless (and remain that way).

    APPLY IN PERSON:
    If you're old, fat or ugly you'll be told the position has been filled.

    NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE:
    We have filled the job. Our call for resumes is just a legal formality.

    SEEKING CANDIDATES WITH A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE:
    You'll need it to replace three people who just left.

    PROBLEM-SOLVING SKILLS A MUST:
    You're walking into a company in perpetual chaos.

    REQUIRES TEAM LEADERSHIP SKILLS:
    You'll have the responsibilities of a manager, without the pay or respect.

    Enjoy

  12. Dack's of course... by 0x20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Web Economy Bullshit Generator I thought this was common knowledge...

  13. Buzzwoord Bingo! by steveheath · · Score: 2, Funny

    In your next meeting distribute bingo cards with buzzwords instead of numbers. Extra points if someone actually shouts "BINGO" when they've ticked off all the buzzwords!

  14. Re:God save me if ... by novakreo · · Score: 2, Funny

    "There is no 'I' in 'TEAM'"

    No, just an M and a E.

    --
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
  15. "Doublespeak" Resources by PeekabooCaribou · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My Cultural Anthropology class had an assigned reading on "Doublespeak": Language, Appearance, and Reality: Doublespeak in 1984, by William D. Lutz of Rutgers University. It reviews gems like TV's with "nonmulticolor capability", and "ballistically induced aperture in the subcutaneous environment" (a bullet hole).

    Lutz, along with being a Professor of English, was involved with the National Council of Teachers of English Committee on Public Doublespeak (that's a mouthful), as well as the editor of the Quarterly Review of Doublespeak.

    The NCTE has only a placeholder page for their Quarterly Review, but it does offer some useful information on their mailing list. A search for "doublespeak" on the same site brings back many hits for their George Orwell Award.

    --
    "I'll say it again for the logic-impaired." -- Larry Wall.
  16. As an antidote by MaxQuordlepleen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Introduce some noise into the system. I tend to rely on "We'll burn that bridge when we come to it", which I first saw in Another Fine Myth by Asprin, back fifteen years or so.

    It serves as a good shit-detector actually, because the people who laugh are the people who actually listen to what is being said to them.

  17. Engineers are guilty too! by Raetsel · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not just management that must be faulted for using needlessly complex language, engineers are guilty of bowing to the peer-pressure as well. The phrase "doublespeak" has been around longer than I have, and has many children -- "nukespeak," for example.

    Searching Google, I find that "nukespeak" doesn't have the meaning I learned years ago. Apparently, its' popular meaning relates to the PR campaigns attempting to sway public opinion toward atomic power. The meaning I learned was entirely different -- it referred to the insanely complex, self-important language used when something bad happened (no matter how minor!) and one had to file an incident report with the NRC.

    You'd see phrases like this:

    • gravitational disassembly -- "I dropped it and it broke."

    • spontaneous energetic disassembly -- "The damn thing just exploded!"

    • vehicle-assisted structural realignment -- "Joe backed a forklift into the wall."
    There were hundreds of these oddball phrases... but it's been something like 15 years since I saw this, and a Google search for funny "NRC incident report" returns zero results -- which means, I guess, that (by decree?) NRC incident reports just aren't funny. (NRC reports are only available to specific people in the first place, so it's not as if they're out there on the web somewhere.)
    --

    "...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
    1. Re:Engineers are guilty too! by unitron · · Score: 2, Funny
      And my personal favorite (from Dr. Who)

      negative utility factor -- "worse than useless"
      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  18. Oh, man. by soggy+noggin · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I was until very recently a manager at a certain online retailer. It seems to me that buzzwords are the result of verbing nouns. ("Verbing", get it? I'm so clever.)

    "Let's take the 30,000 foot view and drill down from there. Going forward, let's leverage our deliverables in an impactful and robust way."

    The improper use of "impact" is one of my favorites. Call me anal, but "impact" is not a verb. It is a noun. One cannot "impact" anything, and the only thing which may be impacted is a tooth.

    --
    - P
    1. Re:Oh, man. by ProlificSage · · Score: 2, Funny
      Thought you might find this interesting.

      From dictionary.com:

      Usage Note: The use of impact as a verb meaning âoeto have an effectâ often has a big impact on readers. Eighty-four percent of the Usage Panel disapproves of the construction to impact on, as in the phrase social pathologies, common to the inner city, that impact heavily on such a community; fully 95 percent disapproves of the use of impact as a transitive verb in the sentence Companies have used disposable techniques that have a potential for impacting our health. ÂIt is unclear why this usage provokes such a strong response, but it cannot be because of novelty. Impact has been used as a verb since 1601, when it meant âoeto fix or pack in,â and its modern, figurative use dates from 1935. It may be that its frequent appearance in the jargon-riddled remarks of politicians, military officials, and financial analysts continues to make people suspicious. Nevertheless, the verbal use of impact has become so common in the working language of corporations and institutions that many speakers have begun to regard it as standard. It seems likely, then, that the verb will eventually become as unobjectionable as contact is now, since it will no longer betray any particular pretentiousness on the part of those who use it. See Usage Note at contact.

      Even though verb usage is commonplace, most people still hate its verb form.

      --
      Real software engineers regret the existence of COBOL, FORTRAN and BASIC.
  19. There are no bad words, by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but there are plenty of stupid speakers.

    The problem is not having words or phrases that imply subtle differences in meaning. That is a good thing that enriches the language. The problem is when people use phrases that should imply a meaning other than they intend, in order to sound jazzy. Since they don't actually mean to imply a difference between "leverage" and "use", or "impact" and "affect", gradually these phrases become completely synonymous. The language is robbed of one more means for expressing subtle shades of meaning.

    Technical words, such as "Gentoo", or "fdisk" are useful, compact words wtih precise meaning, like "vector" or "matrix" in mathematics. Every field has its jargon, which serves well within the field but are inscrutable from the outside. Management has its own useful jargon: "ROI","balance sheet", "MOU" etc.

    Managementspeak, however, is a completely different animal. It isn't shorthand, but more of an elaborately ornamented longhand. It tries to sound like it is saying more than it is. It dresses up the simple to sound profound, the empty to sound substantive. It is inherently deceptive; it is the language of exploitation and chicanery.

    People who make words into talismans are in danger of being enfogged in their own linguistic obfuscation. The fetish word "synergy" has lead meany boards into unwise corporate mergers, because it sounded like more than a vague and unfounded wish. People who once held stock in Time Warner probably wish there was no such word in the dictionary now.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  20. Net it for me by Ratbert42 · · Score: 2

    Can someone net this whole thread for me?

  21. Jargon by derfel · · Score: 2, Funny

    My wife decided to start using this management-speak at home after some Franklin-Craven training at work. She's my ex-wife now.

    Moral: Don't marry stupid people.

  22. Oddly enough, The Economist hates this too by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oddly enough, The Economist's Style Guide is dead-set against this sort of buzzword bullshit.

    They've got a great list of unnecessary words.

    Here's an excerpt from their section on jargon:

    Avoid [jargon]. You may have to think harder if you are not to use jargon, but you can still be precise. Technical terms should be used in their proper context; do not use them out of it. In many instances simple words can do the job of exponential (try fast), interface (frontier or border) and so on. If you find yourself tempted to write about affirmative action or corporate governance, you will have to explain what it is; with luck, you will then not have to use the actual expression. Avoid, above all, the kind of jargon that tries either to dignify nonsense with seriousness (Working in an empowering environment [...]) or to obscure the truth

    I notice they sell a hardcopy of the style guide, you could use it to bludgeon problem co-workers to death.

    Mark Twain might have said it best:

    Eschew Surplusage.
    Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very;" your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be.
  23. Re:Resources... by eibhear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I once had it out with a few people in a meeting. I was working for the software development organisation for an internet bank. Not once in my first five months there was the opportunity to use "resources" instead of "people" passed up. It most annoyed me when it was used in the singular: "We have a new resource starting on Monday..."

    During a meeting, therefore, upon the third or fourth time the word was used to describe people, I ask that we stop doing that and return to the employees their humanity. No one of the 4 or 5 others in the meeting would agree that lumping people with PCs and meeting rooms was less than fair. In fact, they all agreed it was acceptable for the word to be applied even to them.

    It wasn't until I pointed out that if they were throwing a party, they wouldn't invite 12 resources, or that their children were, therefore, resources or that they wouldn't refer to the CEO of the company as a resource that they began to see what I was talking about.

    My tactic that day didn't create much effect, but at least I think I impressed enough one of the people present.

    Éibhear