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Dragon's Lair 3D Not Worth The Effort

Anonymous Coward writes "While not the best source for gaming information, CNNs Technology section has a review of Ubi Softs Dragon's Lair 3D. Long story short, according to the writer Marc Saltzman, the game isn't worth it. In fact, the opening paragraph says, 'The only thing worse than a lousy video game is when it taints a well-respected, 20-year-old franchise.' One interesting tidbit from the article, the original Dragon's Lair is one of only three video games on display at the Smithsonian. The other two games being Pac-Man and Pong."

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  1. Oh great... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

    My first name is Dirk, so does this mean I'm going to go through ANOTHER round of meeting people for the first time and having them say, "oh, like Dirk the Daring?" Perhaps it wouldn't be so bad for this latest version to flop.

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    1. Re:Oh great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Try living with a name Dana Sculler

      "oh like in the x-files?!"

      Yes. and I'm not a redhead. and do I look like I have tits?

      *grumble*

    2. Re:Oh great... by protein+folder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hell, man, haven't you seen "Boogie Nights"? If anybody does ask you that, all you have to do is say, "Naw, baby! Like Dirk Diggler." And then whip out your big 12", uh, ruler.

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  2. I like Dragon's Lair 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Althought I got stuck pretty far in to the game, I think DL3D is an excellent game keeping true to the original Dragon's Lair.

    DL 3D gives the full range of motion the original Dragon's Lair always lacked. D3 3D also keeps up the cartoonyness and originality from the original.

    It's definately worth checking out in my opinion. But as the CNN review's opinion differs, it only proves that everyone has their own opinion...

    1. Re:I like Dragon's Lair 3D by L-Train8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      While the original Dragon's Lair was a ground-breaking game, it sure had it's problems. The animation was very cool, and at the time it was head and shoulders above the blocky, aliased, 256 color look of anything else in the arcade. But the twitchy game play was pretty flawed.

      The new game recreates those same strengths and weaknesses. The cell-shading looks great, and it really captures the look of the original. The animated look is really done right, and looks pretty fresh. But the game play can be at best uninspired to downright bad.

      For example, on one level, you walk into a room with three exit doors. The floor starts to crumble. Only one of the doors works, and if you don't choose it right away, you will fall through the floor to your death. In the original, there were a lot of this type of puzzle. The correct door would flash white and you'd have a split second to move the joystick in that direction. In the 3D version, there are no visual cues. You have to use trial and error. Fortunately, you are not paying a quarter for 3 chances to find which is the right door. This kind of challenge captures what is worst about the original.

      When DL3D is not following the dreadful control scheme of the original, it provides mediocre puzzles by todays standards. The one big technical distinction this game has, namely that it is the only game out to have HDTV output, is countered by the fact that the framerate can crawl in HDTV mode.

      This game is very much like the original. It looks great, it's technically innovative, and it is deeply flawed.

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  3. Uhm... by NetJunkie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is this on Slashdot now? That game has been out a while. I messed with it on XBox. It's the only title that does 1080i HD. The game itself was terrible...though my Dragon's Lair fan friend liked it.

    Not even worth an article.....

    1. Re:Uhm... by BTWR · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tomorrow Slashdot will have an article stating that Zelda II is not as good as Zelda I.

  4. Well respected? by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shall we define well respected? Dragon's Lair was never a good game, just memorable since it used full animated cartoons and had a story in a time in which no one questioned why the yellow circle eating dots. Dragon's Lair 3D didn't do anything to the legacy in my opinion.

    1. Re:Well respected? by Another+AC · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, the game _looked_ cool, but it played like a "rat touches button, gets shocked" experiment.

      My experience with dragon's lair:

      life 1:
      2 seconds: dirk walking towards a castle.
      2 seconds: pause.
      2 seconds: dead dirk with skulls

      life 2:
      2 seconds: dirk crossing a bridge
      2 seconds: pause.
      2 seconds: dead dirk with skulls

      life 3:
      2 seconds: dirk sees some gold.
      2 seconds: pause.
      ??
      2 seconds: profit.

  5. I played that game so much in the arcade. by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    In fact my hand still involuntarily twitches in the direction of white flashing lights.

  6. So by Bob+Abooey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Game reviews are so subjective I don't know why anyone would put any stock in them.

    I could write up a review of the latest version of nethack describing how intense it is and how it sucks you right into the game and eats up hours of your life which would be a bunch of blather to someone who only enjoys FP shooters. Of course that's an exageration to prove my point but you get the idea.

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  7. yeah, but... by stjohn909 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This reviewer also panned Unreal Tournament.
    FWIW.

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  8. Taints a well-respected, 20-year-old franchise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately, trying to control Dirk is a game in itself. And not a fun one.

    Sounds like they've reproduced the all the 'magic' of the original, if you ask me.

  9. Marc Saltzman by ShwAsasin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Marc Saltzman isn't just a CNN croney, he writes for numerous newspapers (Globe Technology, Toronto Star), writes reviews for Electronic Playground TV Show, written game Design / Review books, and much more. Perhaps you should look beyond the CNN and see who the true author of the article is, you'd be surprised at the content that AOL has on their site and software even though it's branded AOL. Same is true with CNN.

  10. Sega's Virtua Fighter at Smithsonian by Kircle · · Score: 5, Informative

    the original Dragon's Lair is one of only three video games on display at the Smithsonian. The other two games being Pac-Man and Pong.

    Nope. I know at least Sega's Virtua Fighter is also on display. Here's from Sega's website:

    The Virtua Fighter series has been recognized by the Smithsonian Institute for its contributions in the field of Art and Entertainment, and is on permanent display at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History in Washington D.C.

    Here's a link to the source: http://www.sega.com/segascream/legacy/historyofvf. jhtml

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  11. Poor Don... by seekohler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don Bluth's lifetime of work is some of my favorite stuff and it hurts a little every time I see one of his newer efforts flop. I've not played Dragon Lair 3D myself but general concensis among my friends seems to be on par with this review.

    He and Gary Goldsmith's last theatrical animated feature, Titan A.E., also did less than expected at the box office. With such classics under his belt like "Robin Hood", "The Rescuers" (Bluth was a lead animator at Disney early in his career), "The Secret of N.I.M.H." and "An American Tail", here's hoping that he keeps the ball rolling and isn't discouraged.

    His website can be reached at http://www.donbluth.com/

  12. In the immortal words of the N. Korean News Agency by Didion+Sprague · · Score: 5, Funny
    In the immortal words of the N. Korean News Agency:

    Dragon's Lair Neagativity Assailed

    Pyongyang, February 12 (KCNA) -- The US conspiracy in criticizing 'Dragon's Lair 3D' clearly proves that the U.S. is making absurd pretexts for overtaking DPRK fun with nuclear force, if necessary. It is all the more ridiculous when beloved Dirk the Daring is used by US war-mongers to enhance negative feelings among the the world's gamers.

    The US remains committed to "secret" plans to topple the DPRK and criticism of fun-loving video games is just but one transparent ploy in the war-mongers game of double-standards.

    The US should "pull out" all troops from South Korea and engage in proper dialogue. Until the US video mongers offer DPRK a non-aggression treaty signed by all congress members, the so-called "nuclear issue" of "Dirk the Daring" will not be settled.

    Anecdote about Kim Jong Il

    Pyongyang, February 12 (KCNA) -- In 1988, General Secretary Kim Jong Il visited a factory where people were very cold and had little food. He saw that there were no video games and suggested that fifteen minutes of proper video gaming would strengthen deeply cherished feelings and love of the country.

    Seeing no video games available, however, General Secretary Kim Jong Il stayed up for two straight nights in order to give his beloved workers proper fun. Finally, General Secretary Kim Jong Il called upon his Libyan friends to deliver three cases of counterfeit Mickey Mouse cups for the workers. Seeing the cups, the workers were very pleased and held a toast with empty cups to their dear leader with their new cups. General Secretary Kim Jong Il hoped that although the cups weren't video game they would understand the spirit of the video games and to be entertained and enlightened nonetheless.

  13. I've played the crap out of it. by deathcow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mainly because my 3 yr old digs it so much. Lets play Dragons Lair. Lets play Dragons Lair. The kid tells his mom, "You're Daphne, I'm Dirk" and he proceeds to rescue here from me.

    I think the game surpasses the original, (given proper allowances for what years they were both created.) Dragons Lair 3D allows Dirk freedom of movement, he can go anywhere basically, jumping, rolling, crouching, sneaking, climbing, swinging his sword, running etc. I find the idea much more enjoyable than a "go left, right left left up left right left to survive" type game.

    The graphics arent up with the latest "Unreal 2" type lighting, etc. but who cares. They are 3D accelerated and the textures look good and Dirk himself and the cartoony characters look great.

    The frustrating aspect of the game is the level bosses, sometimes they are so hard to figure out that you pretty much "throw down the mouse" and say "screw it, I'm not going to try for a 500th time today to beat the smithey" (HOW do you beat the Smithey?)

    Dirk gets cool "essences" along the way from various level bosses, dragon wings to help him fly, spirit to keep him alive, eyes to let him see secret doors.

    Overall, I give it an "A", with a "B-" for the level bosses and having to determine each of their secret formulas for whippin their butts.

  14. Re:Ubi Sucks by Warin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is one title that completely nullifies your opinion of UBI...

    IL-2 Sturmovik.

    One of the best flight sims ever, but largely ignored because it deals with the eastern front. Hopefully the stand alone 'expansion' Forgotten Battles rectifies this by adding the American aircraft to the mix. Its one of the best flight sims I've ever played, and kicks Combat Flight Simulator 3 all over the skies!

  15. Re:One game is a 20 year franchise? by iocat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It may not be franchise, but given the number of platforms the original has been released on, it's practically it's own industry:

    Arcade

    Macintosh

    PC

    straight-DVD

    Colecovision

    Coleco Adam

    Commodore 64

    Game Coy Color (!)

    3DO

    Super Nintendo

    Sega CD

    various euro-micros

    CD-i

    I don't know if there's any time since it was released that you haven't been able to purchase some version of Dragon's Lair!

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  16. Story of a Dragons Lair 2 freak... by seekohler · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the small Putt-Putt arcade where I would frequent in the evenings of college, all my friends were totally into the fighting games. Mortal Kombat, Tekken, King of Fighters.. they played and mastered them all. Yet, I totally sucked at fighting games and couldn't remember the special moves to save my life.

    So, when they were all pumping tokens into Street Fighter Turbo II GX Ultra I was pumping them into Dragons Lair 2. Sure, I knew it was just a fancy game of memory but I loved the Don Bluth visuals. After several months of pumping what must have been an ungodly amount of money into that machine, I had gotten so good that I could beat the game all the way through on a single token. Fifteen minutes of gaming on just 25 cents.

    Then I took it a step further got good enough to beat it on a single token AND getting all the extra items. When that wasn't enough, I eventually had the entire game so memorized I could beat the whole thing on one token, getting all the extra items, never loosing a single life _AAAAND_ using only one hand. People would often come up to watch me play, their jaws gaping at how easy I made it look.

    The best part was finishing the game on a single token and then watching as the next guy stepped up to try. They would always just start pounding on the stick like a frustrated ape.

    It's been years since I played my beloved Dragon's Lair 2: Time Warp but I sometimes wonder just how far I'd be able to get today.