Chimera Gets a New Name

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Posted by pudge on Sunday February 16, 2003 @10:51AM from the i-used-to-drive-an-el-camino dept.

ProfKyne writes "Looks like Chimera (the other white meat) is getting a name change. The article asks that you please don't chime in with your suggestions."

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camino? by BigBir3d · 2003-02-16 11:01 · Score: 3, Funny

are these guys Chevrolet fans?
hmmm by the_other_one · 2003-02-16 11:01 · Score: 5, Funny

How about iLegal

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Issues by hackwrench · 2003-02-16 11:16 · Score: 4, Insightful

So anybody heard of whatever it is that has the Chimera name so that this project can't use it? Anyone else feel that this project shouldn't be forced to not use the Chimera name? And they say America is a free country.
1. Re:Issues by Gropo · 2003-02-16 11:46 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Well... I'm guessing that this project might be claiming prior art on the usage...
  
  Frankly, I'll be happy to be rid of the: "No, the word is actually pronounced 'kai-MEH-ra', not 'SHIM-er-a' " annoyances ;D
  
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2. Re:Issues by Badger · 2003-02-16 11:50 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  What does trademark law have to do with freedom?
  
  Political freedom, that matters. Economic freedom, that matters. Freedom to name your browser Chimera? Doesn't matter that much.
3. Re:Issues by 73 · 2003-02-16 15:39 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Well... I'm guessing that this project might be claiming prior art on the usage...
  Well, from their webpage...
  Chimera 2 is a complete rewrite. It is a currently an alpha quality release that supports some HTML 3.2 features.
  Great, now I can replace my copy of Netscape 3.
  Whoo Hoo!
  
  -73 It's about prime
4. Re:Issues by tbone1 · 2003-02-17 00:16 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Frankly, I'll be happy to be rid of the: "No, the word is actually pronounced 'kai-MEH-ra', not 'SHIM-er-a' " annoyances ;D
  Well, it's spelled "Chimera", but it's pronounced "Throatwarbler Mangrove".
  
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What about... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-16 11:18 · Score: 3, Funny

Internet Explorer?

That sounds like a good name to me... Apart from the images of bugs and crashes it conjures, but I'm sure they can turn that around in no time.
Re:zilla by frogmella · 2003-02-16 11:28 · Score: 3, Insightful

..in YOUR humble opinion! Problem with the zilla suffix implies it is a variety of Mozilla, which Camino certainly is NOT - it's the Gecko rendering engine with a Cocoa interface. No email, no IM client, no Composer etc.
names by presearch · 2003-02-16 11:32 · Score: 4, Funny

My pick would be Shinola.

or in the spirit of naming browsers after SUVs:
Envoy
Yukon
Expedition
Denali
Sienna
C herokee
Rover
Ranger
Cruiser
Villager
Windsta r
New Name... by fobside · 2003-02-16 11:32 · Score: 5, Funny

A new name is fine, but could they get the name of the application to match what appears in menu bar when you open the application? Navigator? Chimera?
Call it "sosumi...again" by jo_ham · 2003-02-16 11:33 · Score: 4, Funny

Worked the first time, I'm sure it will again.
CyberCamel! by Khalidz0r · 2003-02-16 11:48 · Score: 2, Funny

I'd call it CyberCamel, and cc for short :p could be kinda ironic :]

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iBrowse by Darchenman · 2003-02-16 11:52 · Score: 2, Interesting

If they're considering iVoyage, they should consider iBrowse too. Besides te obvious pun (sorry), it says what it does.

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Safari is 2nd class by Znonymous+Coward · 2003-02-16 11:53 · Score: 2, Interesting

I don't care about the name... I just want 0.7 to come out to steal some of Safari's thunder. Safari is ok and all, but Chimera is world calss!

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camino by Polo · 2003-02-16 12:27 · Score: 4, Informative

By the way, "camino" means "road" in spanish.
I like that name by timothy · 2003-02-16 12:31 · Score: 3, Interesting

Camino is actually a nice name, IMO. iBrowse (suggested by another commenter) is pretty funny, but I think that runs into the Legal problem again.

Camino -- "road" -- is not bad metaphorically, either. I think of a pleasant drive on the coast, as apposed to calling it, oh ... "New Jersey Turnpike, The Browser."

Chimera was a *better*, but Camino is a good enough replacement, and the fact that it's a nice browser is more important ;)

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Oooh! I have some suggestions! by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-16 12:57 · Score: 2, Funny

How about "Also-Ran"? :-)

"Safari Junior, With Tabs"?

"We've Got Tabs!"?
1. Re:Oooh! I have some suggestions! by King+Babar · 2003-02-16 20:21 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  "We've Got Tabs!"?
  
  Ooh...here's one:
  Tabula Aqua
  OK, so maybe only 5000 people in the world would fully appreciate the pun. I think that's worth it. :-)
  
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a tie? by MacAndrew · 2003-02-16 14:09 · Score: 2, Interesting

I'm very loyal to Chimera, but I think it and Safari are pretty close to equivalence. When Safari makes it to 1.2 or so, I don't know what Chimera (or whatever its name will be) will use to distinguish itself. Obviously these coders are good at what they do -- should they work on a "me too" product? Or is there some dramatic advance in browsers that Chimera will make and Safari won't? Right now, it's pretty much what I want save a feature or two, but it's just stubbornness that keeps me from switching to Safari. The developers seem resistant to feature creep -- more power to them. Look at IE (shudder).

To get the version release hung up on a name is pretty lousy. Why the heck did they go with Chimera in the first place, when a 10-second search would have turned up the other? And why the delay to switch? Not that I care ... I'm glad they did the project at all, and wish Safari were also (entirely) open source (hello, Apple?).

A new name ... hmm, should take aim at Safari ... how about Environmentalist? Ecotourist? Bambo? :)
1. Re:a tie? by MacAndrew · 2003-02-17 09:40 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  It depends on how they play it: Safari's primary target must be MSIE, the lumbering Spanish galleon of the browser world that Steven Jobs Drake would like pierced below the waterline and off Mac desktops. The Safari/Chimera approach appears to be keeping things light and limber, which is smart I think; it's the hallmark of a good Mac utility app.
  
  But there seems to be a real duplication of effort, when the same folks could be writing open source improvements to Safari (I assume this is feasible? otherwise what's the point of open source). I don't like all the eggs in one basket, and am torn between my pleasure that Apple has reentered the market and my concern that it might undermine it. Safari parallels Chimera so closely -- the sincerest form of flattery. :)
  
  I'm not writing as a developer and don't know anything about the accessibility of Safari development to third parties. I know a % is proprietary -- why don't they open the whole thing? I'm hoping they won't get cute and decide to charge for Safari down the line -- the sort of thing continued development of Chimera (oops, Camino) would protect against. But the, and last, Chimera/Camino is pretty much complete for my purposes, kind of like NS 4.78 was a peak product that is still used places like my public library. If a product meets its purpose....
  
  Bye-bye Opera, my old favorite. And iCab, whatever happened to it.
Ultimate SUV by extra88 · 2003-02-16 14:39 · Score: 2, Funny

Canyonero!
</ob simpsons>
The name Chimera has a bad stigma with me... by BlackBolt · 2003-02-16 15:29 · Score: 4, Funny

...ever since I went to a newsgroup that was called alt.binaries.pictures.chimera when the browser first came out, and it wasn't screenshots of the browser, it was guys having sex with fish.

I will certainly dread going to a Camino newsgroup in case it's.. uhh... guys with exhaust pipes or something.

(*shudders*)
How about a supercreative name... by Eslyjah · 2003-02-16 15:50 · Score: 2, Funny

like Browser.app
TAFKAC by cappadocius · 2003-02-16 17:30 · Score: 2, Funny

Here's an idea, change its name into a symbol --the icon? - and then we can all call it The Application Formerly Known As Chimera.
It worked for Prince.

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1. Re:TAFKAC by Gropo · 2003-02-16 18:21 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Hell, in this age of Unicode, why not change it to a kanji symbol? My personal IE.app was renamed this long ago...
  
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Name suggestion! by sean23007 · 2003-02-17 05:48 · Score: 3, Interesting

They should name it Bellerophon. You know, the guy who killed the Chimera...

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Makes No Sense... by Shuh · 2003-02-17 06:36 · Score: 2, Interesting

The explanation.

Since when is "Chimera" worse from a "legal" standpoint than "Camino?" This has been going on for months, yet this is the first we've heard of it? Something smells bad... real bad.
Re:A Rose By Any Other Name by wtmcgee · 2003-02-17 07:54 · Score: 2, Interesting

after the .7 release, chimera (or whatever it will be called) will move over to the mozilla 1.3 codebase. this should make chimera (or whatever it will be called) MUCH faster, considering i think it is now based on the 1.01 codebase.

we may see some more instability, but the speed should be much better, along with improved rendering.

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Camino eh? by TonyMillion · 2003-02-17 09:10 · Score: 3, Informative

I dont think Scioworks would be happy with them using that name...

maybe they should pick another one....