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Chimera Gets a New Name
ProfKyne writes "Looks like Chimera (the other white meat) is getting a name change. The article asks that you please don't chime in with your suggestions."
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are these guys Chevrolet fans?
How about iLegal
134340: I am not a number. I am a free planet!
What happened to the Phoenix rename? I haven't seen any official comment on it for a while. Just a public message board with some 400 suggestions.
So anybody heard of whatever it is that has the Chimera name so that this project can't use it? Anyone else feel that this project shouldn't be forced to not use the Chimera name? And they say America is a free country.
Internet Explorer?
That sounds like a good name to me... Apart from the images of bugs and crashes it conjures, but I'm sure they can turn that around in no time.
..in YOUR humble opinion! Problem with the zilla suffix implies it is a variety of Mozilla, which Camino certainly is NOT - it's the Gecko rendering engine with a Cocoa interface. No email, no IM client, no Composer etc.
My pick would be Shinola.
C herokeea r
or in the spirit of naming browsers after SUVs:
Envoy
Yukon
Expedition
Denali
Sienna
Rover
Ranger
Cruiser
Villager
Windst
A new name is fine, but could they get the name of the application to match what appears in menu bar when you open the application? Navigator? Chimera?
Worked the first time, I'm sure it will again.
What's wrong with Macko then? Seems like the obvious choice.
:-)
Or even Mackamino
Daniel
Carpe Diem
I'd call it CyberCamel, and cc for short :p could be kinda ironic :]
"What you 'seek' is what you get!"
How about, "IP-on-Trademark-IP"
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
If they're considering iVoyage, they should consider iBrowse too. Besides te obvious pun (sorry), it says what it does.
dumb. w00t!
I don't care about the name... I just want 0.7 to come out to steal some of Safari's thunder. Safari is ok and all, but Chimera is world calss!
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
'Camino' doesn't really roll off the tongue that well. I mean, what is it (other than a city in California). It sounds like someone rehired the pidgeons that were previously employed by Google in order to generate rankings. I've heard other candidates for the name were 'Mamioei', 'Piekay', and 'Yorekrasi'. 'Tokaak' was a close runner-up.
By the way, "camino" means "road" in spanish.
Hmpf. All the proposed names (official and otherwise) sound really lame to me. Wouldn't "Chimaera" work?
Camino is actually a nice name, IMO. iBrowse (suggested by another commenter) is pretty funny, but I think that runs into the Legal problem again.
... "New Jersey Turnpike, The Browser."
;)
Camino -- "road" -- is not bad metaphorically, either. I think of a pleasant drive on the coast, as apposed to calling it, oh
Chimera was a *better*, but Camino is a good enough replacement, and the fact that it's a nice browser is more important
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
What does trademark have to do with freedom. Ask me again when someone trademarks your name.
How about "Also-Ran"? :-)
"Safari Junior, With Tabs"?
"We've Got Tabs!"?
Collage (echoes of Mosaic) iMoz Greko iRex (think T-rex, or the Mozilla lizard. also has unix overtones) iBrow Yes, I am a genius.
I give you... Cocko
I'm very loyal to Chimera, but I think it and Safari are pretty close to equivalence. When Safari makes it to 1.2 or so, I don't know what Chimera (or whatever its name will be) will use to distinguish itself. Obviously these coders are good at what they do -- should they work on a "me too" product? Or is there some dramatic advance in browsers that Chimera will make and Safari won't? Right now, it's pretty much what I want save a feature or two, but it's just stubbornness that keeps me from switching to Safari. The developers seem resistant to feature creep -- more power to them. Look at IE (shudder).
... I'm glad they did the project at all, and wish Safari were also (entirely) open source (hello, Apple?).
... hmm, should take aim at Safari ... how about Environmentalist? Ecotourist? Bambo? :)
To get the version release hung up on a name is pretty lousy. Why the heck did they go with Chimera in the first place, when a 10-second search would have turned up the other? And why the delay to switch? Not that I care
A new name
Canyonero!
</ob simpsons>
iInfringe, since sosume and sosumi have been taken.
MacGecko? CocoaGecko? CocoaMozilla, CoMoz for short? (I'm aware Chimera isn't exactly Mozilla, but CoMoz just rolls off the tongue ... ;-)
I'm sure someone else can come up with better names than I, but Camino doesn't exactly conjure up images of web browsers.
-- shayborg
Hi, Pink.
I liked "Chimera" even though I couldn't remember it, and Camino isn't all that bad, really, but how 'bout a bit more humor in the name, Pink?
Name it "Floyd."
What?
Oh, OK.
I'll go away.
Bye!
Tomas
...ever since I went to a newsgroup that was called alt.binaries.pictures.chimera when the browser first came out, and it wasn't screenshots of the browser, it was guys having sex with fish.
I will certainly dread going to a Camino newsgroup in case it's.. uhh... guys with exhaust pipes or something.
(*shudders*)
like Browser.app
I just wish it was out. I'll use it no matter what name it has, as long as it does what I need it to do, reliably.
Today for the first time I have seen one of the common complaints, it just dies after a while. I want to see this go away, Mozilla in OS X is just a little too slow for my liking.
What the heck is a camino? Didn't Cheech & Chong drive one of those?
You are not what you own.
It worked for Prince.
omnia tua castra sunt nobis
so how about "MoonChild"?
oh, wait. thats from 'The NeverEnding Story', nevermind...
If you want to suggest some name for Chimera project, why not subscribe Chimera Mailing List?
As in Nicolo Machiavelli?
And yes, I first learned that name when my opponents in Sid Meir's Civilization called me Machiavellian.
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " -Albert Einstein
Actually that's an excellent name. And when the little browser thing is moving they can just animate the lizard running on water :)
They should name it Bellerophon. You know, the guy who killed the Chimera...
Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
The name doesn't matter. Did the names Puma or Jaguar stir people up about Mac OS X? "It sounds like a sneaker" "Oh, like the elitist automobile!". Perhaps someone made these snide comments, but the performance and feature set quickly set what to expect of those products rather than the name.
Camino has three popular connotations: the Chevrolet car/truck hybrid, the planet from Star Wars Epsiode 2, and the Spanish word for path. They first two may not be the most relevent, but at least it's distinctive. And if it's also determined to pass legal, that's all that's required in a name.
Even if the name isn't relevent, the features are. There are only a few code bases of HTML engines being distributed. Mozilla, Explorer, and the now extinct Netscape codebase are the only ones in wide distribution. The KHTML engine Apple is integrating into Webcore and Safari may be elegant but it's not widely used. I can see why Apple wanted the elegance for it's rendering framework, but letting either the Mozilla or Explorer engine stagnate on the Mac platform is a very bad thing.
Tabbed browsing is okay and all, but if there is one differentiating feature I'd like to see in Chimera it would be a preference option to choose which HTML engine to use to render pages (Webcore or Mozilla). Since neither engine is near a 1.0 bug free release on the mac platform yet, this is a pie in the sky desire.
Frankly, the best feature of Chimera/Camino is the fact that it is being developed for the Mac. Period.
Chimera is Cocoa as well. I think we can judge the veracity of the rest of your post based on that little blunder.
-- shayborg
The explanation.
Since when is "Chimera" worse from a "legal" standpoint than "Camino?" This has been going on for months, yet this is the first we've heard of it? Something smells bad... real bad.
Chimera is as cocoa as IE is shit, so I don't know where your "Chimera is a crap carbon app" bollocks is coming from.
/. and in the real world about how much that app sucks. Maybe not.
Also, just because an app is carbon, it doesn't make it any worse than a cocoa one. Photoshop 7 is carbon, for example, and I know I've seen positively hundreds of posts here on
Bad programming makes a poor app, not the APIs/language/type of candy the programmer eats.
They should name it a symbol that is unpronounable. Then people would would call it "The browser formally known as Chimera", or "The Browser" for short.
Three cheers for ChiZilla!
I dont think Scioworks would be happy with them using that name...
maybe they should pick another one....
Brasil?
Rodan
"It's an 'El Camino.' That's Spanish for 'the camino'."
Maybe they just like Ashton Kutchner?
How about Xmera (X,greek letter chi)?
Hey, I've got one! Oh...wait...NO, PUT THE KNIFE DOWN! I DIDN'T MEAN IT, PINKERTON![gurgle][splat]
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"Cogito Eggo Sum: I think, therefore, waffle."
camino is spanish for "way"
Do you mean El Camino means "The Way"? All these years...
You are not what you own.
no.
that's not what i meant.
it's not a car, it's a browser.
the browser is called camino, no el.
cheers.
mine was a copyright based comment.
sorry - my "mistake"
You are not what you own.
By "people" I mean George Lucas's lawyers.
"Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me."
heh, my 'zilla has no email, no IM, no composer. it's called custom install (+ it's also lighter than a full install, ~ 6.8 mb dl (think dialup), and none of the junk I don't use.
urm, totally OT.
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