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The Fastest Video Card You Can Buy

Mack writes "OCAddiction takes a look at the fastest video currently on the market. Here's what they say."With the release of Doom III pending, both ATI and nVidia are scrambling to show their very best product on game day, this we can count on. But as it stands now, the OCSystem Enhanced Radeon 9700 Pro Level III SE is simply the best card your money can buy today.""

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  1. Real Info... by robbyjo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is here.

    I suppose $459 price tag doesn't warrant the additional 10-15% performance increase...

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    1. Re:Real Info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You may wish to check google for more information about OCsystems out, beofre even thinking about buying *anything* there. Look up some stories about OCZ Store and Geil, too. There are a *lot* of fishy things about these three companies (look at their street addresses and you'll get the picture).

      Oh, and did i mention their reseller rating? Go people and check them out - and read fun (read that: horrifying) stories about their "quality" products and their great great customer service.

      Just FYI.

  2. be careful buying from these guys. by aderusha · · Score: 4, Informative

    first, their rating on resellerratings.com is pretty abysmal. basically, the product you get may or may not what's been advertised.

    be doubly cautious of buying anything from them that isn't the $500 model. like any other chip the gpu on the radeon has some variations in their yields. as every overclocker knows, some just run faster than others out of the box. what these guys are doing is to try overclocking each card they get from ati, and sell those that will clock higher for significantly more money. throw a fancy heatpipe on it, and charge lots of cash. if you just buy the plain vanilla 9700 pro from them, you can be absolutely certain that it's the "bottom of the overclocking barrel". but don't take my word for it, check the user reviews from people that actually purchased it as opposed to models shipped for free to overclocking websites for promotional purposes.

  3. Next year = Pending? by Bullseye_blam · · Score: 4, Informative

    "With the release of Doom III pending, both ATI and nVidia are scrambling to show their very best product on game day"

    Geez, this is quite rediculous. Anyone inferring that this card release has anything to do with Doom III really needs to quit accepting pocket-money from NVIDIA and ATI. id recently announced that Doom III won't be finished until 2004, meaning that there will be at least one, if not more iterations of graphics chips in the meantime.

    This article is praising six-month old technology as if it were a godsend. Yes, there seems to be up to a 15 to 20% increase in performance over a generic 9700 Pro, but when compared to the advancements that will be made between now and when Doom III is actually released, I don't think that it makes a lot of difference.

    The hype machine rolls on.

    1. Re:Next year = Pending? by YE · · Score: 3, Informative

      id recently announced that Doom III won't be finished until 2004

      Sure about that? Where did you read it?
      I did a quick search and I found the following
      ...on the topic of Activision's quarterly conference call. In which they stated DOOM III will ship in the 2004 fiscal year (ie April 2003 - March 2004).

      Which is fits in the original timeframe of "Spring/summer 2003"

  4. I will never buy anything from OCsystems again by sawilson · · Score: 5, Informative

    as long as I live, no freaking way. I went through
    a living hell with them over some ram. They sell
    this ram called "Expeditious Gamer". It looks like
    something fabulous. I read a few very positive
    reviews on hardware sites. Whether they are paying
    a fortune for false positive reviews, or cherry
    picking samples for reviewers, I have no idea. All
    I know is memtest for the first stick of pc2700 I
    got showed more errors than the early 90's era
    dumpster printer ram that the assholes at computer
    shows sold. And that was at pc2100 speed because
    the ram refused to run at pc2700. I figured it
    might be a fluke and tried a second stick and
    it actually tested WORSE than the first stick.
    It was more than a little interesting that the
    ram comes with copper heat spreaders installed
    with stickers over the links that say your
    warantee will be voided if you remove those
    stickers. It's obviously so you won't remove
    the heat spreaders so you can see what kind of
    ram it actually is. After a ton of phonecalls that
    were never answered, and emails that were never
    replied too, I ended up sending them a bunch of
    faxes. I got my RMA numbers, but was still charged
    a restocking fee. So in the end, I was out 20
    bucks and had absolutely nothing to show for it.
    If you don't believe me, try reading the reviews
    for this "company" here:

    OCSystem's 3.77 rating out of 10

    These guys are consumate rip-off artists. Do not
    trust them. Also, seriously doubt the quality and
    ethics of ANY company that gives ANY product of
    theirs a positive review. There is a lot of
    money changing hands for positive reviews.
    I hope this helps someone. Read some of those
    reviews. Read how they have seriously fucked a
    lot of people out of a lot of money. After you
    get screwed, order from a REAL company like
    newegg.com or mwave.com that actually cares about
    their customers. In closing, let me state
    emphatically that you are OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND
    if you order anything from these bastards.
    Thank you.

  5. Re:Frame rate, refresh rate? True, True by Bullseye_blam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your reasoning is sound, but then comes along the issue of minimum frame rate. Yes, your game might be averaging 101 fps, but there is a certain variance that accompanies an average. At times your game may run faster, and as well run slower at times. Even with an average this high, it's every easy to drop into mid-40's or upper-30's during a big cluster*uck.

    When your screen is redrawing this slowly, it can make aiming more difficult, hence the need for increased graphics power.

  6. Re:Screw upgrades....and non-display uses? by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Informative

    i think the problem with today's technology lies in the bus; the agp bus can deliver the info to the card, but the scenes it renders is an order of magnitude larger in size (uncompressed) than the bus supports. 60 images of 1600x1200 at 32bit color per second across a bus, continiously forever... that's alot of data one way. more than the agp bus was designed to send back to the system. there was a slashdot article about this a ways back.

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  7. Re:Screw upgrades....and non-display uses? by Profound · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can read from the frame buffer in OpenGL with glReadPixels() so you could render a scene with way beyond real-time complexity and then read it out and write it to disk.

    However, if you are not constrained by speed, and are after quality, you are better off doing ray-tracing, which you do on a CPU.