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Citibank Tries to Hush ATM Crypto Vulnerability

palme999 writes "Citibank is trying to get a gag order for new vulnerabilities found in the cryptographic equipment commonly used to protect the PINs of ATM transactions. The vulnerabilities came to light during a court case involving 'phantom' ATM transactions that users deny making but that banks still charge to customers accounts because they claim their systems are secure."

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  1. My Days in the Show by airrage · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    "I was in the show once, best 21 days of my life. You know you don't carry your bags in the show? You hit white balls for batting practice, the stadiums are like cathedrals, and the women all have long legs and brains."

    Recently, I was in the show. It wasn't a goal of mine to get to the show, it just happened, through luck or talent or both. It's not like you have a progress-bar to the show, to show how close or far you are. But one day, I showed up to read about ol' Ike, and there it was: 'you've been granted access to the show'.

    Now, I'm not going to say I was Mr. Cool about it. It was a nice little surprise, so I read the link on how to act in the show and quickly went out and got stinking drunk, had sex, and woke up with an 85 year old woman. Yes, like that first grope in the back seat of Dad's Buick 88, I was spent before the bra was off. And so I sat, staring at my new wife -- with a tattoo I don't remember getting -- smoking a Kool Menthol asking, "Was it good for you too?" Naturally, my first experience in the show was a bust.

    But that's the problem with the show, you know what to do technically, but you don't know the art of it. I endeavored to do a better job next time. But a better job at what? What exactly am I supposed to do? And that's what all the veterans know and all the rooks don't: the key is to influence the show.

    Now I figured after such a spectacular flameout, I'd never get back to the show...

    But then it happened again. And this time it was going to be different. I kept up with the flow, trying to route the conversation, looking for wicked turn-of-phrase, or a pun, or deep insight, and then I found it. Like Cap' Ahab, I said 'harpoon that som' bitch thar!' So I threw +1, and waited. And waited. And waited. And as the thundering herd came towards me I realized that the show would not turn for me, and I had a made a critical error. I was stampeded by pre-pubescent pimpled youngsters in Star Trek T-Shirts. I pulled myself from the muck to watch the thundering herd move farther and farther out of sight. I tried this again and again, to the same results. Needless to say, I ended up in the same seedy motel, waking and rolling to the same sight. I relit a used Kool and took a deep drag. My ass hurt and I had a sinking suspicion that my other buttocks said 'boat' which would have delighted the tattoo artist no end to finish his partially completed 'love'. I dared not look.

    I had become the Gary Coleman of the show. I was starting to learn Spanish or French or whatever language is appropriate to disappear to the fringes of civilization. And disappear I did.

    Arthur C. Clarke said all things come in threes, it's the way of the universe, ultimate karma, triple redundancy I think. And as the old man predicted, the random seed generator came up with my social, and beyond belief, it was time for a comeback to the show.

    This time would be different, really. This time I would commit. The third base coach is telling me take a pitch, but I'm digging in for a big cut. That's what I didn't realize before: you have to commit. You have to go all in. You have to be willing to risk all in one swing in the show; you have to bend steel with your mind. The next Shakespeare or Dickens or Simmons is out there, and I'm going to find them, so I set the filter to -1 Uncut and Raw and step into the light...

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    "This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
  2. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Citibank hushes you!

  3. First Crypto Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    svefg cbfg

  4. Joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What is red and orange and looks good on hippies?

    Fire.

    FP!

  5. eat a dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    MONKEY COCK!

    1. Re:eat a dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      go free speech. and all that. cock monkey!

  6. in russia soviet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    post is first

  7. 4th post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Do I have 4th post? Earlier? Later? The suspense is killing me. 20 seconds between fame and glory and nothing. The bastards.

  8. How do banks secure ATM lines? by AcquaCow · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How do bank atm lines work anyways? Are they over phone or satelite? Has anyone ever managed to break into them remotely?

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    up 12 days, 22:30, 2 users, load averages: 993.20, 994.21, 994.56
    *makes note to limit user processes...
  9. Legal fees by hafree · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I wonder how much that court case cost to take on a huge corporation like Citibank because they blatantly charged you $1 per transaction for a dozen transactions that never happened last month. Hardly seems worth the effort to save $12, but I'm glad someone is fighting for the little guys...

  10. Re:ATM? I don't need no stinkin' ATM! by UberLord · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Who needs security when the system can't even run stabily?

    That's like saying people on 56k dialup who are online for about an hour a day on average don't need firewalls.

    Heck, I get a firewall up before I even think about going online!

  11. atm pins by syle · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I swear this is a duplicate from today but I can't find the original post. Am I going crazy?

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    /syle

  12. palme999? by Xipe66 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    As a Swede, I'm supposed to trust someone calling himself Palme?

    How about we got a link to the submitters profile so that we can value the content of his story in perspective of what he has written in the comments previously?

    Not that I wouldn't trust a story like this normally, but I'm having some major trust issues with anyone _choosing_ a screen name that in any part contains the word "palme".

    (For everyone to whom the word "palme" means nothing, Palme was the socialist prime minister of Sweden between 1969-1976 and 1982 to his assasination in 1986.)

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    1. Re:palme999? by DaMa9eD · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Despite your error with the straw man...You should realize that there are more than one Palme in the world along with many unfortunate folks with the last name of Hitler....

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  13. Why is this modded up? by Dman33 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Informative? C'mon! I cannot read that. In fact, I stared at it cross-eyed and saw a sailship!

    IMHO, I think that was just karma-whoring FP. Anyone else would have thought to hit the preview button. Please, if you are going to mirror or post the text, please preview and make sure it will not throw somebody into seizures...

  14. Re:in case of /. by LongJohnStewartMill · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I think I saw this in a movie one time.
    YODA: (irritated) I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience. Look at that formatting. It's completely nonexistent.

    BEN'S VOICE: He will learn patience. You just have to show him where the preview button is.

    YODA: Hmmm. No karma in him, like his father. We know what a fine piece of work he is.

    BEN'S VOICE: Was I any different when you taught me?

    YODA: Hah. He is not ready. You knew HTML as a fetus.

    SQUAREFISH: Yoda! I am ready. I...Ben! I can be a Karma Whore. Ben, tell him I'm ready.
  15. Screenshots of ATM/Win32 Technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Example of ATM running Windows:

    http://www.30e.com

    It's funny, because such things really do exist. This company appears to have patented much of the technology.

  16. Re:More meat to the story by unicron · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The hell with content I say! This is Slashdot, we're all about sensationalist editorilizing!

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  17. Damn. by airrage · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This was supposed to be an homage to becoming a moderator, and yet in hindsight, giving that it's a first post, and there is some thinly-veiled sexual references, I can honestly see how this was not well received.

    ~Airrage.

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    "This isn't a study in computer science, its a study in human behavior"
  18. Windows and crashing by t_allardyce · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Nothing to do with crypto, but im worried. Ive heard of allot of ATM's using systems such as.. Windows. I saw a shut down screen from windows NT4 on a NatWest cash machine too. What happens if i withdraw money and after making the transaction with the bank, the ATM crashes without giving me my money?

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  19. Re:Harrison Ford Is My Cousin by MImeKillEr · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Aww, what's wrong? Mommy and Daddy not pay enough attention to you when you were a kid? Too much maybe? Didn't you like touching Mommy's "special place"? Or was it Daddy that made you touch him?

    Just the simple fact that you keep coming back for the abuse goes to reinforce my belief that you're a worthless bag of flesh, here for my amusement (not unlike your daddy's scrotum was for you in your youth).

    Now let's move on to the fact that you 1) are aware of the sites that you link to in your pathetic comeback and 2) actually took the time to calculate out the number of times you've apparently swallowed choda load.

    Combine this with the fact that you apparently feel that labeling someone a fag or a "Muzlim" is even a comeback and you'll come to the same conclusion that I and everyone else here at Slashdot has already realized and moved on from:

    You're not worth the $12 KMart sneakers you're wearing

    And as much as you'd like to wish I sucked dick, its simply never happened and never will.

    Answer me this though: How do I taste? What? You don't know? Kiss your mother again and then answer me.

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    Cruising the internet on my TI-99/4A @ a whopping 300 baud!
  20. Re:Barry Goldwater Is My Cousin by MImeKillEr · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Work on your material though. The whole family thing isn't really as witty as you seem to think it is.

    Funny, from where I'm sitting the phrase "hook, line and sinker" comes to mind.

    As for your "31337" use of Google: Congrats! I'm amazed someone with as little itelligence as yourself was able to find Google and figure out its "complex" interface.

    I could go on and on about your total lack of personal hygine, the fact that you have to troll teen chatrooms to get laid (and even then only by paying young boys), the fact that you think an Apple IIg was a "leap ahead" in technology, the fact that you buy your clothes at Ross, Goodwill and Woolworth's, etc. But alas, you're not worth the air that you breathe.

    Please, do all of us a favor and inform the librarian that you're not allowed to visit the internet anymore.

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    Cruising the internet on my TI-99/4A @ a whopping 300 baud!