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PCMCIA Announces NEWCARD Format

schnoz writes "Found this over at DPReview: "The PCMCIA technology association has today announced the 'NEWCARD' format. This new format makes use of PC Card, PCI Express and USB 2.0 technologies. The NEWCARD format is also aimed at both Mobile and Desktop PCs". Check out the rest of the article here."

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  1. A bit short on the info, long on the ass kissing by Michalson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me, or did that article seem to be more toward executives who want to see their companies name than people who want to know what is going on? While I see a bunch of stuff about how this will "revolutionize" the industry, I could just barely get the info on what IT actually was. It would have been nice to actually see some info like how this USB2/PCMCIA/PCI connection is going to work or what it will look like? Is it something where you buy an adapter cable depending on which of the three you're plugging it into?

  2. Card-based computer by Pyrosophy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've always thought it would be really neat if someone could make a basically PCMCIA based computer. No PCI slots, no need to open up your computer -- just a slot in the front of the computer where you could insert a new card that gets automatically plugged in, enabling pre-existing ports on the back of one's box.

    Instead of having to make users deal with a modem PCI card, a network PCI card, sound card, etc, all they would need to do to upgrade is eject one of the old PCMCIA cards and load a new one like one loads a video tape.

    I'm not saying this would be easy or compatible with existing OSs, but it sure would be cool.

    1. Re:Card-based computer by infiniti99 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, I don't see why it wouldn't be compatible with current software. Most OSs already can handle hot-swapping of PCMCIA / USB devices, certainly they could easily handle an entire system of similar devices.

      I could swear I read something about an entirely card-based computer maybe 6 years ago. I remember retelling what I had read to friends over and over, about the possibility of easily installing all of your hardware by just sliding it into some external slot.

      Everytime I install hardware into current PCs, I always end up losing screws or cutting my hands on those metal spikes that line the bottom of PCI cards. If I dread installing hardware into my own PC, how could anyone expect normal folks like my mom to be able to do it? It's clear we have a long way to go. Everything should be as easy as PCMCIA.

    2. Re:Card-based computer by rcw-home · · Score: 5, Informative
      The problem with PCMCIA is it's slow compared to PCI and AGP.

      PCMCIA is ISA. Cardbus is PCI.

    3. Re:Card-based computer by red_dragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      IBM once made a PCMCIA-based desktop computer, the PS/2E, which was basically a Thinkpad built into a pizza box chassis. The machine was designed as a "green computer", meaning that it'd consume as little power as possible. It came with four PCMCIA slots built into the back, but the rest was pretty middle-of-the-road: XGA2 graphics, 486SLC2 processor, and an IDE disk interface. As you might imagine, they didn't sell too well.

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  3. Newcard by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks 'Newcard' is just the codename. Imagine if it would have been the actual name... the next version of the product would have been called 'Newer Card', the following 'Even newer card' and so on.

  4. picture of it by adpowers · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here is a picture of it in an actual computer.

  5. I find this very good... by zoloto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...if companies support it widely enough. It would be nice to slip this into a dumb terminal, and presto! instant user desktop with our personal info on it. Then take it out and carry your stuff with you.

    this is just one of the possibilities

  6. It's not the size, but how you lose it by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 5, Insightful


    No, that's not a typo. The picture shows how this thing is barely bigger than a pair of quarters edge-to-edge. Great. You know how often I lose change?

    There's a certain advantage to having small media/cards/devices. For example, having a 128 MB SD disk in my digicam is nice. I don't have to have a backpack to store more than 100 pictures at a time. But some of these things aren't even big enough to fit your initials on them, let alone some sort of recovery info if you *were* to lose what amounts to not much more in size than pocket lint.

    It's nice that I can take my entire mp3 collection anywhere I want to go in a thimble. That's a real advance in computer technology. But are these guys banking on the idea that I'll lose one out of every 10 to 20 of these things that I'll buy?

    I hope any NEWCARDs that I might need or buy come with a carrying case that's about as big as a floppy or CD. I'm still finding jelly beans, pen caps, and AA batteries under the furniture that have probably been there since Reagan was in office....oh..there's my entire work portfolio...

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  7. what does it stand for? by fermion · · Score: 5, Funny
    does anyone remember what PCMCIA stands for.

    I think I head it was People Can't Memorize Complicated Industry Acronyms?

    Any want to confirm/correct this?

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  8. Re:A bit short on the info, long on the ass kissin by Dr.Enormous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never trust a press release that uses "leverage" as a verb three times in less than a page. Unless it's a press release about levers.

  9. that's what most people say by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's Personal Memory Card International Association, but nobody cares.

    No, I don't know where that extra C came from.

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    1. Re:that's what most people say by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Guh, read the first sentence, self.

      Personal Computer Memory Card International Association.

      It's been one of those days, sorry.

      One of those days where you miss entire words in sentences, yes.

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  10. It's just a refinement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Typical press release doubletalk. Based on the "single-wide" (which implies double-wide) and the quotes which refer to two cards in the same form factor as one PCMCIA, I'd bet a dollar or two that:

    1) NEWCARD is simply specs for a new version of PCMCIA that allows for two NEWCARDs in the place of one PCMCIA. This allows notebook manufactures to keep their dies the same and just swap out the card bay. If they get cute, they might even be able to make a hybrid version that takes either 1 old or 2 new cards--depends on connector pinouts).

    2) Since they will be restricted in connector pin space, they're using a USB2.0 serial bus for communication rather than PCMCIAs parallel bus/bizarre IDE disk protocol. Fewer pins, better reliability and speed.

    3) This is nothing more than a packaging standard. PCMCIA is just worried about impingement from Compact Flash cards for network/serial/bluetooth/everything else. Note the emphasis on "mobile" computing. Subtext: don't buy Flash, we're better.

    4) (Personal opinion). Unclear to me why they'd trumpet any sort of connection to USB, given the incredibly bad compatibility story it has.

  11. less PR, more info by Turadg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Good summary from the BBC

    Techie details from EE Times

  12. Re:Why USB 2.0: such a slow standard? by g4dget · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Probably for the same reason why you aren't driving a Formula 1 race car to work: it's not necessary, and it's not cost effective.

    In different words, with PCI, they have communications at bus-speed covered for the few applications that need it. But for almost all PCMCIA applications (networks, modems, storage, etc.), USB 2.0 is already much faster than what is needed. And USB 2.0 is cheaper and more widely supported than any serial bus alternative.

  13. Speaking of stupid names... by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, laugh it up about 'newcard'.

    Seriously.

    Have fun. All I know is any name beats the everloving s**t out of PCCard. I can't count
    all the times I've had to break out of a conversation to make sure whoever I was doing
    a support call for was talking about a PC-CARD (like a credit card) and not a PC card (like
    one you open up the PC and install inside).

    Oh god. I just channeled my own voice from the future: "No, is that a *NEW* card you've installed, or is it..."