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J2ME and .Net CFF Mobile Games

Posted by krow on from the what-if-I-don't-care-for-either dept.

Java World is featuring the first part of a series comparing J2ME and the .Net CF vaporware (ok, it will exist at some point). It does tout the normal Java "features" such as being cross-platform in comparison to the mono-platform reality of .NET CFF. It has a bizarre critique of .Net CLR for being object oriented, and mentions the fact that most of the Linux PDAs coming out now run Java as an advantage for Java. (I love my Zaurus but I can't imagine it being useful for most people.)

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  1. buzzwords by josephgrossberg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, every word in the title but "and". That's got to be a new record:

    "J2ME" ".Net" "CFF" "Mobile Games"

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  2. Comparison? by MeanMF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see.. JAVA WORLD does an "objective" comparison of J2ME vs. .NET-CF and declares that "J2ME is the hands-down winner". Somehow I'm not surprised...

    And I hereby sue for false advertising - the article has nothing to do with games, dammit.

  3. lots of reasons .NET CF will fail and fail badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    .NET CF is already monolithic and bloated at version 0.9. J2ME is tiny and modular.

    j2me is already a couple of years old and pervasive (millions of devices) while .NET CF is still vaporware in the field (I've got it since I'm a Visual Studio Everett beta tester)

    Java was designed from the ground up to run on small devices - .NET was coined by a marketroid in a smokey room to fight back against J2EE

    Manufacturers (of highly desirable branded goods) don't want the handheld market to go the way of the PC (zero margin white box comodity)

    J2ME has a broad coalition of big league supporters: symbian, palm, sharp, nokia, sony, ibm, oracle.

    Compaq add 3rdParty java capabilitys to pocket PC on the ipaq because business customers demand j2me... can't imagine anyone being able (or willing) to add a 3rd Party .NET CF to a symbian device

    The major Manufacurers are heavily involved in the evolution of comapct java - and have organised it so that it can be installed on the full spectrum of mobile hardware... .NET requires more expensive & larger screen devices, because microsoft dictate the specifications needed to run their bloatware

    nokia, IBM, Borland, Sun (and many others) each provide a seperate independant j2me developer kit and IDE FOR LINUX!!!! - this sort of open-standard support from large companies is the attitude that will kill microsoft sometime in the early 21st century

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    Was gonna do the standard 'fail.net initiative' type troll but hey there is no need in this story: .NET CF will surely fail. And I didn't see a VS.NET ad with the story :)

  4. Sorry to ignore most of the article but.. by |deity| · · Score: 2, Interesting

    >"I love my Zaurus but I can't imagine it being >useful for most people."

    I really have to reply to this. I've used some of the microsoft pdas and they aren't bad, but I wouldn't trade my zaurus for any of them. Many, not all or even most, but many PDA users are technically adept.

    Anyone that wants to have a really cool, very useful toy would love the zaurus.

    I have one and I assure you that anyone could use it for the tasks that most people use pdas for. For the people with a little more technical skill they are great.

    That's just my opinion I could be wrong.

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    1. Re:Sorry to ignore most of the article but.. by |deity| · · Score: 2, Informative

      I will agree that the Zaurus is not for everyone, but I don't think that anyone who could use one running microsoft's pocket PC, would really have any trouble with the zaurus.

      I've never had to reset my for anything but I haven't had it that long so I already have the newest ROM.

      Syncing with windows was easy, I will admit syncing with Linux was a bitch. But try to get an IPAQ to sync to linux without switching from Pocket pc to linux.

      I don't use the zaurus for the same things you do. I mainly use it to read books, listen to music, keep track of contacts, and take short notes.

      I agree great toy, but I would recommend it to most of the people I know. :)

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      Environmentalists are their own worst enemy. ~tricklenews.com
  5. .NET CF by IanBevan · · Score: 4, Informative

    and the .Net CF vaporware...

    Actually, it's included in Microsoft Visual Studio.NET 2003 due for release in April IIRC.

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    1. Re:.NET CF by MeanMF · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What's commonly known as vaporware then.

      It's more commonly known as "Beta"... I'm running it right now.

  6. Vapo[u]rware???? by Burb · · Score: 2, Informative
    Sheesh, I'm glad no one was telling me it was vapo[u]rware when I was contributing to this book ... Hey guys, say what you like about .NET CF but it does exist and will ship within weeks. Really.

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  7. Re:lots of reasons .NET CF will fail and fail badl by GiorgioG · · Score: 2, Informative

    .NET CF is already monolithic and bloated at version 0.9. J2ME is tiny and modular.

    Care to back that up with some numbers Mr. Anonymous? The .NET CF runtime will be around 1mb for its final release. And will support most of the functionality of the .NET framework on the desktop.

    OSS users are becoming as ignorant as the people they hate for not using OSS.