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Dell CIO Says "Unix is Dead"

An anonymous reader writes "I thought this might spur some good discussion on this board, including jabs at Dell and MS, which I always enjoy reading. Dell's CIO believes that the end of Unix is here, in fact his opening slide in a recent presentation was "Unix is dead." Specifically, he talked about the savings he claims in moving Dell's Oracle databases from Solaris to Red Hat.

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  1. could it be??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    fp for me???
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  2. Slashdot Editors = Trolls???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Seriously, the last week was an endless streams of M$(haha, funny) stories, KDE vs. GNOME flamewars, Unix vs. Windows comparisons, and now this?

    Editors, there must be some other news out there. This is neither new or interesting. This is trolling, and the offending editors should be banned from posting.

  3. Re:Dasvedanya! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  4. Re:Learn to spell, Dude. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  5. Re:since 1980.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is official -- Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  6. JUST A NOTE: YOU FAIL IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    YOU FAILED FIRST POST! How does it feel to be a FAILURE!?

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  7. *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is official. Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying

  8. mods are assholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    need i say more?

  9. Re:Nah. by SN74S181 · · Score: 0, Troll

    but the core ideas are exactly as they were back in 1976 when I used UNIX on a PDP-11.

    Yes, and shoving all communications through a 'TTY' interface and adopting an ancient 'Time-Sharing' model for multi-user systems is archaic and dated. It might still be 'the best we have' but it positive reeks of legacy, and not legacy that's by any means the best method for use in modern software.

    I like old stuff. I think old computers are cool and I restore them as a hobby.

    Definitely not as a vocation, though.

    Andy Tannenbaum was right way back in the early 90's. No amount of 'backfill' in the form of legacy croft obscures the truth that we live in a very kludged world.

    It isn't clear what 'The Way Forward (tm)' is yet, and it's a real shame that Microsoft is even in the running.

  10. Re:since 1980.... by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: -1, Troll

    Man pages are obsolete?

    Richard Stallman is an absolute Faggot.

    I cannot STAND the gnu info system. Its utter garbage.

    Any system I install (and I install alot) I always install the man pages, and will not install the shitty gnu info system.

    I am GLAD that Debian is against his policy and include man pages as standard.

    I agree manpages are limited, but what is wrong with plain 'ol text? If you need more then that, go html. But not the info system! *shudder*

    D.

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  11. Give me man pages or by spun · · Score: 2, Troll

    give me info files, but don't make me dig through some disorganized doc directory and don't make important docs available only as .html, .sgml, .ps or whatever, pretty please? Not every system has the tools to read those. If I'm using ssh to admin some server that's maxed out on some clogged pipe, I want small simple tools and concise man pages. Most of the time, I can't remember what flag does what. Frankly, sometimes I can't even remember the name of the command I want, and 'apropos' comes in handy if the command has a man page.

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  12. NEWSFLASH: Windows NT 4.51 is DEAD TOO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nothing to see here, evolution of the OS will continue.

  13. Re:since 1980.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
    Richard Stallman is an absolute Faggot.

    I cannot STAND the gnu info system. Its utter garbage.




    Who cares what you think if you are a 14 year old homophobe?

  14. Re:Red Hat != UNIX ?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Very small rocks.

  15. Linux IS Unix by pophop · · Score: 0, Troll

    Unix is NOT the name. It's NOT the copyright. What is it is, what it has become, is Linux. They are the same thing. When I ask a guy if he is a unix-geek I mean is he a linux-geek and I suspect that is what most of you mean as well. There may be proprietary OS's that look like Unix - Solaris, HP-UX, etc... They are not Unix. They only stole the name from something that does not care about copyright law and will exist long after copyright law is dead.

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  16. Re:since 1980.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Says the 14 yearold homophobe posting anonymously.

    I agree.

    RMS is a faggot, and a wanker.

    Plus he needs to take a shower. Badly. He reaks!