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UT Austin Hit By Massive Security Breach

mrpuffypants writes "Reported in the Austin-American Statesman: The University of Texas' security was compromised over the weekend, leaking out nearly 60,000 records on students, staff, and faculty. Official word from the school can be found here. Most troubling of all is that, like most schools, UT still uses SSNs for student ID numbers, and that was part of the information taken from them in the attack."

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  1. All they got... by FirstManOnMoon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Those SSNs that matched selected individuals in a UT database were captured, together with e-mail address, title, department name, department address, department phone number, and names/dates of employee training programs attended. It is important to note that no student grade or academic records, or personal health or insurance information was disclosed."

    Phew, I feel so much better now!

    1. Re:All they got... by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They'll get the rest later using the SSN. That and a name are often all you need. Who cares about grades- when they know who you are and have your social you are screwed.

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  2. Action by StingRayGun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What legal action may the students and faculty take? In Washington it is illegal to use a students SSN to identify students. There was groaning at every campus in Washington for weeks. I bet there as glad as me that Washington was so on top of this.

    1. Re:Action by Gossy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why is it such a hassle for Unis to generate their own unique IDs for students?

      As I undertsand, the SSN isn't even a *good* unique identifier - for one thing it has no built-in checksum, and it's possible that your number isn't unique (could be wrong on the latter, but it's not really my point..)

      Just issuing consecutive numbers to students who enrol is just one extremely simple way to replace using SSNs.

      My bank issues me a number that identifies my account, my mobile phone company gives me a number to identify my phone, why is it so hard for unis to issue numbers to identify students?

      Why were the unis in Washington so unhappy with the change? Sure, a few thousand people need to be given numbers and that can take a while to physically issue - but if the law allowed, perhaps a phased implementation of the scheme, so new people are given one of the new numbers?

    2. Re:Action by sjlutz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, it is illegal for anyone to ask for you social security number except for:
      1) The purposes of reporting individual tax information (such as wages and salaries).
      2) The payment and qualification for social security benefits.
      Alot of people do not believe the above, because they have gotten used to it and have accepted that people will use their SSN for means of unique identification number. It's great for database developers to just use your social security number as your customer ID. Because we know that SSN's are unique. Example, if you go to a hospital, what do you think your ID is? Now, you have the absolute, 100% right to refuse to give ANYONE your social security number. (Aside for the above reasons) In the above example, the hostipals will probably insist. But they most definately treat non-americans (either visiting the US or here on a Visa). These people do not have SSN's. The SSN's have become a defacto National ID card only because people have let it become so. That being said, your social security number is NOT a national ID card system, although it is being used like one whether we like it or not.

  3. Slightly OT - choice of credentials by 1984 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OK, so I can see how a university might come to use SSNs as an identifier. They're unique and everyone already has one. Easy.

    But why are SSNs so sensitive? It's like a credit card number -- it's printed some places, gets bandied about in others. Not exactly confidential, and no intuitive or documented boundaries on who should be trusted to with it. So it's a scary number that can be used for bad things, but you'll have to give it out in many circumstances where you aren't fully aware of how it'll be used. Makes it tricky to know who has it, or to make an informed decision about where you use it.

    Again, it's easy to see how the practice of using it as a credential has continued (and got worse), but when did it start?

    1. Re:Slightly OT - choice of credentials by sweetooth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google can answer most of your questions with nifty links like this, or this.

      Who would have thunk it?

    2. Re:Slightly OT - choice of credentials by parc · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's a problem with your statement "They're unique and everyone already has one." First, not everyone has one. You were not legaly required to have an SSN until 20 or so years ago. Of course, without one you can't get social security benefits.

      A bigger problem is that everyone assumes SSNs are unique. They aren't. At best they can only uniquely identify 1 billion people. "Easy," you say, "There aren't 1 billion people in the United States." There were 281 million in 2000. The birth rate is 14.5 per 1000, and the death rate is 8.7 per 1000. While the birth rate is declining, the life expectancy of a person is lengthening. Additionally, it can not be expected that the birth rate will continue to decline to 0. This means that, while it won't happen any time soon, eventually there will be more than 1 billing people in the US.
      The next problem is that when you die, your SSN is NOT REUSED until your estate is closed, at a minimum. My mother's estate was not closed for nearly two YEARS after her death, and hers was a simple estate. Some accounting setups could cause you SSN to be used for many years after your death.

    3. Re:Slightly OT - choice of credentials by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Because every company on the planet uses the number to identify you. When you apply for a loan, a driver's license, a credit card or insurance, the Social Security number is all they need. Given yours, I can request a car or home loan in your name, get a nice fat check and skip out of town or out of the country. And you might not ever know about it until the credit collectors catch up with you, you're denied credit or you don't get a job when they run a credit check on you. Assuming they even tell you your credit history is why they didn't hire to. Many employers ignore the laws stating that they have to tell you if that's why they don't hire you.

      If someone is using a driver's license acquired in your name with your social security number, they could very well build up a criminal record in your name in some other state. A routine traffic stop could then lead to you getting arrested.

      With that in mind, if someone asks you what yours is, the first thing that comes out of your mouth should not be that number. It should be "I don't think you need to know that information." Note that in the historical past (I don't know if this is still true) if you knew someone's name and birth date, you could use an Internet information service to find out their social security number and criminal history.

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  4. Are the stolen records ever used? by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen a whole bunch of 'stolen credit card #' type stories on Slashdot lately... the thing is, we never hear about any repercussions of these thefts. Do the thieves ever use the stolen records in large quantities? Follow-up is good :). Any info people have, post it here (I'm thinking of, in response to the Amazon CC# thefts from a few weeks ago, etc.)

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    1. Re:Are the stolen records ever used? by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yeah, they get used, mostly in foreign countries. As a merchant who got stiffed for $1700 on one of those uses, I'm not inclined to discuss how it was done on Slashdot.

      No offense.

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  5. Who needs to hack, just work for a university by efflux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My school still uses SSN's as student id's. I've found that as a student employee I run into thousands of id's a day. I know it's the same way for a lot of student employees on campus. When will schools learn the benefits of a autogenerated key?

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  6. from what Ive seen by odyrithm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    in schools, its very easy to retrieve information, I went round no less than 10 junior schools in my area to get information on the new students that are about to enter the new year in the secondary school I work as the information manager.. NOT ONE of the schools asked me for ID, they showed me to a machine and logged me in and let me walk out of the door with the information on floppy...

    Its a very scary.. but what can you do..

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  7. Penalties by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Am I the only one who thinks that there should be penalties for the hack-ee when private information is stolen?

    Not to adapt a blame-the-victim mindset, but I mean really, why is this stuff on an internet-connected machine to begin with? I work in health care, and with HIPAA coming into effect, we've been moving a substantial part of our network off the internet -- if there's no physical connection, we can't get hacked.

    This stuff needs to be taken seriously, and not just in punishing the offenders. Look at it this way: If your bank got robbed tomorrow and all the items in your safe deposit box were made off with, would you blame the bank if you found out that the vault was left open and the deposit boxes were made of cardboard? I sure would.

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    1. Re:Penalties by Conare · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I work in health care, and with HIPAA coming into effect, we've been moving a substantial part of our network off the internet -- if there's no physical connection, we can't get hacked. " Oh really? Something like 60% of breaches are internal. What are you going to do now? Put everyone on their own separate network? We are going to see a lot of medical data stolen since Bush took the teeth out of the HIPAA requirements.

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  8. Clarification? by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The UT link appears to be /.ed, but when I read it before it sounded like a simple brute force ssn lookup. The attacker simply generated random ssn and sent them against a page that returned information based on ssn. The attacker then simply harvested "positive" hits. The problem was that this interface was exposed to the public and that it had no means of throttling/preventing multiple requests/failed requests.

    On another note, UT is phasing out SSN in many aspects of the students life. My wifes UT ID does not contain her ssn, it has a student # now. Though I assume that there are still many points of interface with the UT system that expects to see ssn.

  9. Colleges and Universities need to fix systems! by revcorrupt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is NOT the first time, and I do not believe that it will be the last. I work and attend a medium sized college and I happen to know from other employees that our systems have been compromised on several occasions, and in fact they are still being compromised. I do not believe that any critical information has been stolen, but the security of the critical systems at our nations colleges and universities needs to improve. Our college refuses to publicly admit that they have had a serous breach or deny any knowledge of current security problems. It's quit frustrating to be a computer security enthusiast and attend a college that refuses to admit they have a serious problem.

  10. At least the University is acting responsibly... by Dman33 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "There are six to 12 ways we could have reduced the risk to the database," Updegrove said. "The sad thing is, we didn't do any of them."

    It is good to see the University being so frank and honest about this matter. I am sure some heads are gonna roll, but at least the people affected will be provided with information and know how it happened.

    Speaking of how it happened... the article does not go into technical details, but I am curious how this database was accessible to the world and was spitting out data to qualifying queries of SSNs without any security context... I am sure someone here on /. has an opinion as to how this happened?

  11. Hey, here's an idea by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SSN's are valuable because you can use them for identity theft. You can use them for identity theft because they're a national ID card. Something "they" (the mythical them) say they are not.

    Apart from that all of the credit reporting, etc. goes through shadow companies that you can do nothing to if they screw you over (IE issue a credit card to a you that's not you).

    We need to make using an SSN for identification purposes entirely illegal, credit card companies and banks be damned. Or say it is a National ID and come up with a better way of securing identities.

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  12. at least some are getting smarter by squarefish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Northwestern recently sent this out to all students:

    Dear Students:

    The following three bulleted topics are of student interest:

    * Social Security Number is removed from WildCARD ID
    With complaints about identity theft nearly doubled last year as the fast-growing crime topped the government's list of consumer frauds for the third consecutive year, WildCARD offices on the Evanston and Chicago campuses have started issuing new WildCARD identifications without social security numbers.

    The re-designed WildCARDS are being issued at no charge to faculty, staff and students who wish to exchange their existing card for one minus a social security number printed on the front. Those without a card to exchange because it was lost or stolen will be
    charged a $15 replacement fee.

    "The new purple WildCARD looks the same as the old one, but as opposed to printing the person's social security number that used to be their Northwestern "id" number, we have implemented a shortened "emplid" number which the University is issuing that has no association whatsoever with one's social security number," said Arthur Monge, manager of WildCARD and Vending.

    "We are not mandating that WildCARD holders be issued a new card, but the option is available for anyone who feels concerned about having the social security number visible on their existing card. It is a matter of personal choice to replace their existing card for one with an "emplid" number, at no charge, unless they have lost their card or it has been stolen." Since switching to a new WildCARD is optional, it can be done at one's leisure. Existing WildCARDS will continue to work, so if someone doesn't feel the need to have one without a social security number immediately, they can continue using their existing card until it expires.

    Northwestern University's multi-purpose, one-card program, WildCARD, was developed nine years ago to provide better identification for members of the University community and to simplify use of existing services, control access, reduce handling of cash, and enhance security. Students, faculty, staff, spouses and domestic partners of active, full-time faculty or staff, authorized contractors working within the University community, Research Park tenants, and individuals affiliated with a University department are all eligible for a WildCARD. For more information, call Art Monge (847) 467-3135 or check the WildCARD Web site at:
    http://www.univsvcs.northwestern.edu/WildCard /inde x.html

    * New vending machine refund bank locations
    If you didn't already know it, there are vending machine refund banks located throughout both campuses. A complete list can be found on the WildCARD & Vending web site at:
    http://www.univsvcs.northwestern.edu/WildCard /vend ing.html#refundloc

    New locations include the Family Institute at 618 Library Pl (front desk), Lake Shore Center at 850 N. Lake Shore Drive (front desk) and at Wieboldt Hall, 339 E. Chicago (Administrative office, 2nd fl). One is also planned for Galter Library in the near future.

    Each vending machine should have a sticker on it that indicates the nearest refund bank. If one is missing, please inform the Evanston Wildcard Office at 7-6843.

    * Other tidbits of information:
    --The Abbott Hall ATM now sells stamps
    --A Pepsi vending machine promotion is taking place now. Pepsi is giving away 80 Willie the Wildcat bobble head dolls. Look for a sticker on your next Pepsi purchase.

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  13. SSN as ID number by TPIRman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While my university doesn't use the SSN for our student ID number, it still asks students to put it on countless forms and enter it into countless databases. It's always made me uneasy, and I hadn't even thought of the potential for a computer break-in. Rather, I was unsettled that any student worker who checked out a book for me at the library could see my SSN on his screen after scanning my ID card.

    But nothing wakes up a university -- especially a state school -- like the threat of litigation. If the cracker followed up and committed full-scale identity theft, the students would have grounds for a lawsuit against the school. Consider the recent New Hampshire lawsuit that dealt with SSNs and other personal information. With the potential for bloodthirsty lawyers, universities might finally get serious about protecting their students' information.

  14. Bush's daughter by wayward_son · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doesn't one of Bush's daughters go to UT?

    Could this possibly be related?

  15. What's the big panic about SSNs? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seriously. In the UK the closest equivalent is a National Insurance number, which you give out to quite a few people. Banks often want this (because it's unique to you, which makes record-keeping easier). Your employer will want it, so their accountants can calculate your tax. Your doctor will probably want it, again, because it's a unique identifier.

    Why are Americans so paranoid about who knows their SSN?

    1. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny


      Why are Americans so paranoid about who knows their SSN?

      Because it's a lawless and uncivilized colony filled with criminals who will steal your identity to get a free meal at Ponderosa without a twinge of guilt.

    2. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why are Americans so paranoid about who knows their SSN?

      Because I can use your SSN to apply for a credit card in your name and then, when the bill comes due, it falls on your head (until you explain that that wasn't actually you). Then I can do it again.

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    3. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by joebp · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Should someone get a hold of your SSN they can get a credit card in your name, or whatever.
      I think I see where the problem lies.

      It's like security through the obscurity of these numbers.
    4. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. Please mod the parent as insightful. (Or even funny). This is the best description of the problem I've ever heard.

      2. It's an antiquated system. Back in the day, before massive amounts of information were available on computer, you'd occasionally hear about a guy who's number was stolen. It's a bad thing, but it was a rarity. The system worked because your number was secret, and there were few real ways to get it.

      These days, SSN's are being compromised by thousands at a time. This is a broken system, and it should be fixed.

      Perhaps thumbprints or retinal scans as a system of identification. But if you think about it, this leaves us with the same problem. The retinal or thumb image needs to be kept somewhere for the purposes of comparison. The files can be stolen just as easily as SSN's.

      Maybe there is no solution.

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    5. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by TuxGrep · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hm. So I need only your name and your SSN ??

      Djeez. No wonder you all need a homeland security office and ultraparanoid officials everywhere, if the underlying 'security' mechanisms are SO easy to break.

      It may surprise some of you but in the rest of the world you actually need to show some real identity document, like a passport or drivers license, to get anyone to actually trust your identity.

      Maybe something to implement in the next, say, 20 years in the great USA ?

      Yeah. This sounds like a flame. So sue me. Another thing US residents seem to be really good at ;-)

    6. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting


      Precisely. The problem isn't that people can find out your SSN. It's that far too many people think that SSNs are somehow a secret authentication key that only you could possess.

      If you walked up to any organization and said, "Hi, I'm CmdrTaco, gimme the keys to Fort Knox", they'd ask for some ID. They don't take knowledge of a name as proof of ID. Yet far too many people will accept the one that walks up and say "Hi, I'm 123-45-6789, gimme the keys to Fort Knox". An SSN is just like a name. It's not a digital signature.

      Note that the fuss a lot of people make over insisting their SSNs be "secure" actually makes the problem worse, not better. Increasing the obscurity slightly doesn't improve the technical security. But it does tend to make people sloppy and overconfident, and leads them to rely on the obscurity of the number as a substitute for authentication. The reason we have a problem in the first place is all those people that mistakenly believe that SSNs are somehow secure in the first place.

      We'd be better off if you were _required_ to use SSN as your student ID, and drivers license ID, frequent shopper card ID, whatever. Plaster it all over the place, and make sure that everyone realizes the number is every bit as public as your name, and thus of no more value for proving an identity. Agitating for "privacy of SSNs" is counter-productive.

    7. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by ClipDude · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Again, it might surprise some of you ;-), but this is exactly the reason you can only apply for a credit card (loan, mortgage, etc) IN PERSON.

      That's funny. Those ten or so credit card applications I get in the mail each week say nothing about coming to see them IN PERSON.

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    8. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by TuxGrep · · Score: 4, Informative
      That's funny. Those ten or so credit card applications I get in the mail each week say nothing about coming to see them IN PERSON.

      From that I can only assume that you live in the US ? Which, I guess, just proves my point that it is a system just waiting to be abused.

      Never mind what those spams may say, in Europe you cannot get a bankaccount without applying in person. I guess there may be CC companies that are so eager to close that they trust me without proof. But I reckon that even those will send letters to your address that you have to return to them, signed. Which does prove at least two things to them: (A) you have physical access to the mailbox/streetaddress you supplied, and (B) they have your signature on paper, which can be useful to prove you signed it (and if need be, all the way though handwriting recognition experts).

      In any case, that is better than nothing.

    9. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by tlk+nnr · · Score: 3, Informative

      So, do you provide those documents when you apply for a credit card via mail?

      In Germany, the post offers a service called postident - the mail carrier will only give you the letter if you show him your passport, and he'll send the passport number back to the sender of the letter.

      The system is in place for years, afaik it's the only way to open accounts at internet only banks. No need for a magic SSN.
    10. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by Chrome-Dragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Had this same thing happen to me around Christmas time except they bought plane tickets. Tickets to be picked up at will call all the police had to do was go to the airport and wait. But no they said "the people picking up the tickets could be different from the ones who bought them". So when I said fine then forget the fraud charges and credit issues go arrest them for receiving stolen property, they got all-quiet and wanted to drop it. People can be so lazy.

    11. Re:What's the big panic about SSNs? by TuxGrep · · Score: 3, Funny
      Wrong. SSNs are not unique. The combination of birthdate, name and SSN is unique.

      Hmm.
      Well, depending on the resolution with which you record "birthdate" (days? minutes? seconds?) one could probably just about prove that the combination of name and birthdate is already unique, regardless of the SSN.
      Unless maybe when your name is real common.

      Come to think of it, names should maybe be deprecated altogether. Just record the time of birth, and the GPS coordinates thereof.
      Provably unique, and names are confusing anyhow. ;-)
      Or else, we can design a domain name system for that too; A network of central servers that can facilitate a name lookup. Just input GPS and date/time and it tells you the name of the subject ! ;-)

  16. It's not the IT department.. it's the provost by agrounds · · Score: 5, Informative

    I used to admin at a University. One of the most frustrating things I encountered was the incessant desire for there to be no restrictions on any of the computing systems that the students used. This includes the servers. The firewall was just an expensive router. We were not allowed to run blocks from the internet to inside IPs, as that defeated the spirit of free access. I tried to explain why it was a 'Bad Thing(tm)' repeatedly, but alway met with resistance from the shared governance committee. One cannot blame the administrators in this thing. I assure you they feel just as powerless as I did. This kind of thing will become more and more rampant as clueless faculty (or upper-management in the business world) are allowed to influence major IT decision-making.

  17. Re:As a recent graduate... by binaryDigit · · Score: 3, Informative

    What steps can one take to protect one's identity?

    You can't (not to say that you shouldn't make it more difficult, but just don't fool yourself into thinking that it's possible to do absoultely). It's like your house or car, you can take steps to make it more difficult to break in/steal, but there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop someone is wants to target YOU. So the best thing to do is to introduce a bit of paranoia in your life and assume therefore that it COULD happen and adjust accordingly. So for you're indentity, you do regular checks of your credit report, you keeps tabs on your bank accounts, you review your credit card statements, etc. The absolute worse thing that can happen is for someone to grab your identity and use it for a length of time without your knowledge. Getting your cc company to forgive unauthorized purchases is easy, as long as you do it within 30 days of your statement. Having someone apply for a cc with your info can bite you in the butt if you're trying to buy that car or get that mortgage, so you make sure you check well in advance and make sure that window of exposure is a small as possible.

  18. Already fixed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They immediately disconnected the compromised database from the Internet, later hooking up a database of useless information.

    They probably just copied over the DB containing the University's security procedures.

  19. `Recapturing'? by TKinias · · Score: 4, Insightful

    UT says:

    UT, in conjunction with the U.S. Attorney's Office, the U.S. Secret Service, and other law enforcement agencies, has focused its efforts since Sunday evening on identifying the perpetrator(s) of the break-in and recapturing the stolen data.

    Someone is more than a little bit confused about the nature of digital storage if they think they can `recapture the stolen data'.

    `Ah, cool, we've managed to delete the copy they made of our data.'
    (whispers)
    `Another copy? How many copies did they steal?'

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  20. Re:As a recent graduate... by bpfinn · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you are worried about credit card fraud, then you can contact the big credit agencies to check your credit report. They are:
    Review who is looking at your credit report, and report suspicious activity to them. Having seen a few personal credit reports of people who were using their personal credit to establish a business line of credit, I've seen statements on them like: "Don't issue any credit to this person before contacting me at 111-222-3333".
  21. Re:At least the University is acting responsibly.. by da'+WINS+pimp · · Score: 4, Funny

    "There are six to 12 ways we could have reduced the risk to the database," Updegrove said. "The sad thing is, we didn't do any of them."

    Unfortunately the literal translation of this is:

    I am so fired!

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  22. Re:Isn't there a law?? by Dahan · · Score: 4, Informative
    In general, government agencies (other than the IRS) can't require you to give them your SSN. There are a few exceptions though... and some govt. agencies want you to think that you need to give them your SSN when you don't actually need to. As an example, if you apply for a passport, the form threatens you with a $500 fine if you don't fill in your SSN. However, it's the IRS that wants to know if you're applying for a passport--you can actually tell the IRS directly, rather than sending your SSN to the State Dept. and having them tell the IRS.

    Private businesses can request your SSN if they want... you don't have to give it though. But if you don't, they don't have to give you whatever you're looking for either :)

    However, UT is a public school and is subject to the restrictions on government agencies... here's a page with some info on the use of SSNs in public schools.

    Anyways, as a former UT Austin student, I'd be annoyed if my SSN was one of the ones that got out... and if so, I wonder how UT plans on contacting me--as far as I know, they don't have my current address, phone number, or any other type of contact info. As a side note, the first year I was there (1988), a lot of professors posted exam grades outside the classroom indexed by SSN... I guess someone put a stop to that :)

  23. SSN at UT by yar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have both attended at work at UT in IT, so I can give you my observations.

    For many years, UT had a non-centralized IT infrastructure. That is, the Colleges did one thing, the Administrative Computing Group did another thing, the Academic Computing Group did yet another thing, and the Libraries something else entirely. This was recently changed with the introduction of a new Office of Information Technology head by a new Vice Provost (Dan Updegrove, originally at Yale). One of the very first things I heard him address was the Social Security number problem in which every student, faculty, and staff member used their SSN as their ID. That practice had to change in order to meet both legal and privacy standards (see FERPA) , and UT has been trying for the past couple of years to make that happen. The trouble is, it was so integrated into all of the different services and departments that it is a slow process to remove it. They started to phase it out, but now UT is seeing the effects of this particular practice. I'm likely one of the ones who will be affected, so I'm waiting for them to announce where people can find that out. (It may be at the UT site, http://www.utexas.edu/datatheft/.

    The Daily Texan (student newspaper) has an article about the theft, as does the Houston Chronicle.)

    By the way, your Social Security Number isn't public information. It is required for use by some agencies of the government, but you are not required to provide your SSN to private groups unless they need to interact with certain government agencies (this includes your employers, who deal with the IRS). That being said, SSNs are so commonly used a search may pull up that information- but that doesn't mean it is legally public info.

  24. last semester for SSN identification by dj_whitebread · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just to let everybody know, this was the last semester that UT was using SSN's as id's. We are in the process of switching over to what they call the EID. The EID is just a text string (similar to a user login). This is what we have to use to access online services for several years. Within months it was going to be our official identifier in all of the university's systems.

  25. Honey pot by oxfletch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What we need is a honey pot full of fake SSNs ... when people try to use them (obviously stolen), the Feds go round and arrest the bastards.

  26. Now wait a DAMNED MINUTE!! by goldspider · · Score: 3, Funny
    "The University of Texas' security was compromised over the weekend, leaking out nearly 60,000 records on students, staff, and faculty."

    That information wasn't leaked, it was FREED!

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    "Ask not what your country can do for you." --John F. Kennedy
  27. User logon names as SSNs by weave · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Think this all is bad, the first college I attended used SSNs as your logon id. All one had to do is logon and type "?WHO" to get a list of 100s of usernames logged onto the system, then run *system/who to tie it to a name.

    (Extra credit props points to anyone who can name the system that I am talking about... Hint, this was late 70s to early 80s)

  28. crypto is a solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a solution if you use cryptography. Assign everybody a social security number. Also, give them a private key (or better, let them pick their own). Then, publish everyone's social security numbers and the public keys that match up with their private keys. (The government could even provide a service that allows people to look up public keys based on social security number.)

    Then, everyone's number is out in the open. Whenever you want to do something with it, you create a message along the lines of this:

    My name is John Doe, and my social security number is 987-65-4321. I hereby authorize CreditCards-R-Us to issue me a credit card linked with my social security number.

    Then you sign that message with your private key. Once you've done that, anyone can use your public key to verify the signature. That means they can be assured that, unless someone has stolen your private key or broken the crypto, it could only have been you that wrote that message.

    Thus, your social security number becomes public knowledge, but that doesn't help anybody because they'd need your private key to do anything with it. And, most importantly, there never is any situation where you have to give your private key to anyone. Your secret remains your own. No third-party ever gets a copy of it. This is important for two reasons:

    1. Third-party institutions don't have much incentive to guard your secret well. Many of them will do their due diligence in guarding it, but the bottom line is that it's just not their ass on the line, so they won't try really hard. Even if they mean well, they're a busy corporation or university or whatever, and they have other things to get done.
    2. If you are forced to give out your secret to get anything done (for example, register for classes), over time lots and lots of organizations will get (and store) a copy of it. This is bad, because the probability that information will get stolen is pretty close to proportional to the number of people who have a copy of it!
    1. Re:crypto is a solution by Drakonian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, until they look under your keyboard and see the sticky with your private key. The weakest link in security is often the human.

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      Random is the New Order.
  29. Part of the problem is ... by Skapare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Aside from the fact that the custodian of the information certainly has a lot to blame in this, there is another big part of the problem. That problem is what people can actually do with the information.

    An SSN is identity. It is nothing more than that. The problem is people make the incorrect assumption that it is authenticity (I can recite the number, or read it off a little card in my wallet, so it must be me), and authority (this account has your SSN and is overdrawn, so you are liable for it).

    If any law change is needed, it is a law change that says that it is illegal for an SSN to be accepted for any purpose other than identity. What that means is that if I walk into a bank and open an account citing some SSN, the bank needs to understand that all this does is identify someone, and not necessarily me. If the bank causes harm to the real owner of the SSN by having provided any derogatory credit information based on that SSN, then the bank shall be fully liable for having not taking reasonable measures to ensure accuracy of information. And by that, what I mean is that the bank can't simply say that the victim needs to track down the perpetrator to cover the costs. The banks need to be forced to properly authenticate the information they use, especially when and where it might be used in a negative way.

    And I don't mean to pick on banks (I just happen to have an open case with Chase Manhattan bank which continues to allow someone to operate a credit card account with my SSN, reported on my credit reports, without my consent, and after I have advised them of the fraud). Such a law should apply to anyone and everyone who accepts and uses SSN data for anything. It's the negative things that can be done (like bad credit info) that needs to be stopped (in addition to other stupidities like running computers insecurely and connecting systems to the internet that have no business being there).

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    now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
  30. Why there hasn't been any reform on SSNs by silentbozo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If SSNs were only supposed to be used by the IRS, and the current system is so ripe for abuse, why hasn't there been a law against using SSNs for non-tax purposes? Easy - lobbyists and money. Credit card companies and credit bureaus see SSNs as a godsend. For them, it's cheaper and easier to have a central registry in order to troll for new credit accounts, regardless of the security problems inherent in using SSNs for everything.

    Every effort to reduce the power of credit bureaus and protect individual privacy has been defeated or weakened by the credit bureaus and credit issuing companies. Their claim is that a central database tied to everyone's SSN is critical to doing business. Of course, they neglect to mention that they do plenty of business outside of the US without having such a system in place, AND the fact that SSNs are not guaranteed to be unique.

    At this point, reasonable souls would start to question whether this is a government for the people, by the people, or a government for big business, buy the politicians! Face it, it won't be until the system is completely broken, with millions of people affected, and with the costs of keeping the current way of doing business too high to continue, that they'll change. By then, it'll be too damn late...

  31. Am I Affected? by AggieScott · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is your SSN in the following ranges?

    * 449-31-98xx - 450-91-24xx
    * 451-12-32xx - 451-20-35xx
    * 451-20-64xx - 452-20-40xx

    If so, within these ranges, 55,200 people of the following types, including but not limited to:

    * Current students, faculty and staff
    * Former students, faculty and staff
    * Job applicants
    * Retirees

    may be affected.

  32. UT dishonest about source of attack by randomthought · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I stumbled on a UT site yesterday that had a number of exposed social security numbers, after reading an article in Wired about open Web enabled databases. The UT site now appears to be down, but you can see the Google cached version here

    A click on the travel.fp3 file listed a couple hundred SSNs. It was completely wide open.

    UT made it sound like a deliberate attack, but it looks to me more like administrative incompetence (and cya).

  33. Perspectives from one of UT's sister universities by Pulsar · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a student at UT-Arlington, the next largest school in the UT System. Last October our Student Congress passed a resolution I wrote asking them to basically make it easier for students to be able to request to no longer use their Social Security Numbers as their ID # - UTA currently has a system in place where you can request to use a randomly generated ID# instead of your SSN, but no one knows about it and they don't advertise it or make it easy.

    The administration's response was "Come Summer 2005, when we have our new Student Information System, we won't use anyone's SSN" but that in the meantime, we're screwed because they weren't going to change anything.

    A month ago I discovered the 'secure' portion of the Housing department's website had been indexed by Google, including the ID # (Social Security Number) of all 1200+ residents living in the on-campus dorms. This highlighted the need for the immediate cessation of collecting and storing SSN's, so I've introduced a follow-up resolution our Student Congress is looking to pass soon basically demanding each department document every way they use SSN's and the security measures in place to protect them, after which we want a committee of students and faculty to go through the documentation and approve or deny their use and storage of the SSN's.

    Our school paper, The Shorthorn (www.theshorthorn.com) is supposed to do a story in tomorrow's (Friday's) issue concerning the leak at UT-Austin and the fact that administrators so far at UT-Arlington are ignoring the need to provide secyrity for SSN's NOW, and not just in 2005.

    It should be interesting to see if the administration has finally 'seen the light' and will listen to us, this time.

  34. Salon gets it right by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In their newswire, Salon titled this story, "Computer crackers steal students social security numbers."

    I thought the Slashdot community would appreciate Salon getting the terminology right on this one. It may seem like a silly point to some, but the distinction between "cracker" and "hacker" is huge in my mind, and it always makes me happy to see a journalistic outlet get it right, for a change.