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An IMDb for Books

darkgray writes "After years of reading books and never really knowing which books were, perhaps, the best out there, and in the meantime getting more and more impressed by sites like the Internet Movie Database, I decided to start a project of my own. I named it the Internet Book List, and now it needs people to vote on books they've read, and even more it needs dedicated people to submit books and author information. Help out Humanity: Add a Book!"

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  1. What About Amazon? by n3rd · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's always Amazon.com. They have reader reviews as well as a rating system for each book. I personally use it due to the large amount of traffic they have so I can see a wide range of opinions on a product.

    They may not have everything, but they're pretty close.

    1. Re:What About Amazon? by joshsisk · · Score: 5, Informative

      If Amazon decides not to carry the book, *poof* it ceases to exist if we rely on it as a means of archiving records of books.

      Well, no. There are lots of books on there that they don't carry. In fact, there are lots of books on there that they have NEVER carried.

      The do this because they will send a request to a rare book dealer for you and then take a commission from the sale if the dealer can find it for you.

      That said, I think a non-commercial DB is better...

    2. Re:What About Amazon? by Nept · · Score: 4, Informative

      Amazon doesn't even come close to having everything. If you want everything go to the Advanced Book Exchange online. Thousands of independent booksellers all over the world. That's everything my friend.

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    3. Re:What About Amazon? by b!arg · · Score: 5, Informative

      You do realize that IMDB.com is run by Amazon, don't you?

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    4. Re:What About Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, but Amazon is not required to sell a product for IMDB to have it in the database. That too and there is far more information in imdb then in Amazon...

    5. Re:What About Amazon? by HBergeron · · Score: 5, Informative

      IMDB was originally started by some english blokes as a free universal database project much like the original cddb and the like. You can see its' origins in some of the odd bits of information - they'll often have finnish or irish box office figures for an obscure movie but not U.S.. In my opinion those boys did one hell of a job setting it up. A few years back they sold out to Amazon for a (rumoured) $100M, not a bad chunk of change. Amazon has linked dvd sales to the site be seems to otherwise have left it to it's own devices. The greater clunkiness of the site these days owes more to the business folks who are running the site for amazon who seem to be trying to turn it into another Daily Variety.

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    6. Re:What About Amazon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      imdb.com is NOT run by amazon.com, but was only purchsed by amazon. imdb was an independent source and ran short on cash just like most other websites with the .com bust. To continue to provide the information to the general public the got funding from amazon, in the form of being purchased and now provide links to amazon where you can buy the movies you found. They are still run independently while paying the bills with their parent company (who they generate sales for), banners, and the pro accounts.

      In short, they are not run by, just owned by amazon.

  2. Re:Totally Sweet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean a Site like this:
    http://www.eigenspace.net/reality/
    Which has been around for quite some time....

  3. There is already a good one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.alexlit.com It's a little SF heavy, but it has a great rating systems and has been operating for a number of years. Check it out before you start a whole new project.

  4. Already there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://www.footle.com does some of what you are talking about. And it has a lot of reviews already ....

  5. Oh boy by Sgs-Cruz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get ready for a world of hurt ... first the Slashdotting, and then, if this becomes popular, a wave of traffic to your site that won't stop... just look at IMBDB or RottenTomatoes: sites that started small and today have huge server farms...

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  6. BookCrossing by ciurana · · Score: 5, Informative

    For what is worth, there is a similar effort out there called Book Crossing. Essentially, you put books in circulation by leaving them in cafés or other public places, for people to find and comment on. I put a couple of books (my most recent one today!) out. Anyway, this creates a virtual roaming library that now has global reach.

    Check out their web site; Book Crossing has some neat ideas that could be applied to this project.

    Cheers!

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  7. Re:How far back are we talking? by fruey · · Score: 2, Informative
    But books have been printed for thousands of years.

    Written, yes. Printed, no. Gutenburg invented the printing press about 550 years ago. Before that it was all handwriting. Unless you count evidence from China using clay printing processes 450 years before.

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  8. Re:Um...I thought this was called..... by TiMike · · Score: 2, Informative

    or this.

  9. Here is how by +Majere+ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Under the help section:

    5. How do I help out with the project?
    We'd love to get more people to help out with adding books and authors, so mail us at submission@iblist.com asking to become an administrator. We will contact you as soon as we can.

  10. The Assayer already online book information source by Brad+Lucier · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out "The Assayer" for online book information.

  11. When you reach 48 million bibliographic records... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ... let me know. Then I might take a look at the wheel you've reinvented.

  12. Re:Free labor again? by schon · · Score: 2, Informative

    The one thing I liked about IMDB was that in its early days you could download all of the data it contained.

    You still can, by going to ftp://ftp.imdb.com/pub/interfaces

    Last update was March 1, 2003.

  13. All Consuming by evand · · Score: 3, Informative

    While the Internet Book List looks like it might eventually become a worthwhile alternative data source to Amazon.com, I've been using All Consuming for a little while and find it to be an exceedingly useful resource for book information.

    While it does use Amazon data (the merits of which are discussed in other replies to this article), All Consuming provides a clean interface and metainformation to the base data, as well as nifty features like weblog scanning (to find mentions of books), the ability to track a book collection, and a "friends" network that keeps one up-to-date with other members' various literary excursions.

    As I put it on my weblog: "If you read, join All Consuming."

  14. IMDb for videogames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    MobyGames has been around for four years and has been documenting the entire history of videogames. Help out the cause. Contribute your favorit game information MobyGames

  15. Science Fiction Already Has Two Sites Like This by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Informative

    Science Fiction already has two sites (though not with rankings) with tens of thousands of book and story titles already listed. They are:

    The Locus Index; and

    The Internet Speculative Fiction Database.

    The Locus database covers SF/F/H/etc. from 1984 on fairly comprehensively, while the ISFDB covers a wider timeframe, but isn't (yet) nearly as comprehensive. ISFDB was also suffering under some badwidth caps earlier in the year, but expects their problems to be solved (via hosting through the Texas A&M library system) very shortly. Both are well worth bookmarking and using.

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  16. accuracy of the database by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Informative
    Populating this database by reader submission seems pretty wrong overall -- it'll always be highly incomplete and fulla errors.
    I was a little worried about this on my own user-submitted book review site, The Assayer. However, it's turned out not to be a problem. The site is very open. Any registered user (i.e., someone who's supplied a valid e-mail address) can enter new books, edit the information about a book, report that the link to a free book has been broken, etc. It hasn't been a problem at all -- users are generally pretty responsible about this kind of thing. I do look at the log file every day or so and make sure that nobody has been doing anything really goofy. Also, I back up the database pretty frequently, so if someone truly malicious came along and munged it, I would just have to restore off of backup. Hasn't happened, though.

    Sure, users make mistakes like entering a title as "The War of the Worlds" rather than "War of The Worlds, The." Not a big deal. I just see it in the log and fix it.

    A somewhat bigger problem is conflicts of interest. I've had several cases where the author tried to submit a review of his own book. The cure is caveat lector: don't trust a review by someone who hasn't given any personal information (real name and bio). Also, a person who has submitted a lot of well-written reviews is more trustworthy than someone who's only written one. I've heard stories about abuse on Amazon.com, too (e.g., grad students submitting glowing reviews of their thesis adviser's book).

  17. Re:Library of congress? by esme · · Score: 2, Informative
  18. Re:A Great Idea by mlinksva · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Open Directory License, used by dmoz isn't a copyleft but was authored roughly for "DB data". At Bitzi we use the similar OpenBits License. One could also choose a Creative Commons license. Or maybe the GNU Free Documentation License. Also see the FSF's licenses page. I wouldn't get enthusiastic about any community contributed data project until license issues are clarified.

  19. Re:Stay away from this site by kevin42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aww, come on. He didn't intend for the mailing list to be postable from anyone except for himself, and he shutdown the list pretty quickly. Yeah, I got a bunch of messages too, but it wasn't spam, it was people asking questions about how to do stuff, etc.

    Then after less than one day he shut down the list and setup forums. Give him a break.