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Major League Baseball Releases Webcasting Plans

TopShelf writes "With spring in the air, it's time to discuss the (US) national pastime. According to this story at CNN, Major League Baseball is planning to webcast 1,000 games this season. The interesting part is that in order not to violate TV blackout rules, they'll try to deny service to viewers who instead have local broadcasts available, using Quova's user-location service. At last, an opportunity to see my hometown Detroit Tigers more than once a year!"

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  1. Proxy by bradams · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder how they will deal with viewers via proxy?

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    1. Re:Proxy by Tolchz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where do companies get off thinking that they can be judge, jury, and executioner ?

      I wonder what Visa will do when you dispute a $100 charge on your credit card.

    2. Re:Proxy by Tailhook · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Where do companies get off thinking that they can be judge, jury, and executioner?"

      So you have to watch it for free on the old fashioned tube if you're local. How tragic.

      Cut them a break. They have long standing contractual obligations to the affiliates. The alternative is to change nothing. Instead, they've arranged it so that this can happen despite the existing contracts. That's admirable. It opens the door to greater things.

      Imagine if this is actually successful. Baseball (tm) might discover that they can actually turn a nice profit in advertising. Maybe this leads to a day when the affiliates have less power at the bargaining table.

      Think 10-15 years out. The phone monopolies have finally been overcome. Everyone has enough bandwidth to stream live video from anywhere for close to free. All Professional Sports (world-wide, 24x7) will be pay-per-view events on competing virtual networks. Baseball's (tm) first tentative effort is merely a precursor to the inevitable. That they had to make this silly exception due to affiliate contracts means nothing.

      Chill, dude. It's all good. :)

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  2. Re:Well, that's stupid. by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because you're a fan of baseball in general, or moved from your home town?

    And because your own team is on free-to-air TV in full motion, instead of some jerky lo-res webcast?

    And because it's much cheaper than the MLB/NHL/NFL packages services like DirecTV have?

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  3. Re:Quova by Stubtify · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All it takes is a good run of tracert and some know how of geography to be able to tell where someone is located at. When I want to know if people are full of crap I tracert them and check to see where the major hops stop, Usually around a big city and then a smaller city and u can trace from there.

  4. But there's a difference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    between watching a live-web-stats broadcast (like we had to do when EE lab was during the world series) and actually watching the game live.

    Heck, listening to an animated announcer on the radio is better than seeing this slowly appear on your computer screen:

    Bottom of the 9th.... 2 outs.

    Jeter... takes ball 3, full count.
    Jeter: tripple. 3 runs in.

    Score: 7-7

  5. Bud Selig can bite me! by imadork · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Forget video on the web, what really steams me os the fact that they raised the prices of audio on the web again!.

    Years ago, the individual radio stations apparently owned the rights to the audio of baseball games, and I listened to them directly from their web site, for free (and heard the local commercials, too...) Then, I think it was about two or three years ago, MLB "found" the Internet and decided it should control all audio broadcasts. Of course, by "control", I mean "Charge $10/yr for what used to be free.".

    Last year, they raised the subscription fee to $12/yr. This year, they are apparently raising it to $19.95/yr. And after all that, they still have the local commercials! The commercials are supposedly paying for the broadcast, can't they have them pay for the Internet broadcast too?

    I understand that if they provided the service for free, there would be a lot more people using it, and bandwidth isn't free. But did bandwidth costs really go up 100% in the past two or three years? If not, I think a more likely explanation is that Baseball (indeed, all sports) are filled with greedy owners, spoiled players, and weak executives, and that the cost of being a fan will shortly get prohibitive for most people.

    1. Re:Bud Selig can bite me! by scarhill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if ARod was making $75,000 a year, you think the owners would just reduce ticket prices, cable prices and webcast prices out of the goodness of their hearts?

      The owners charge what they charge in order to maximize their profits (or minimize their losses). Rest assured that they will continue to do that regardless of what they are paying the players.

  6. But... why would I want to? by Snowspinner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would I want to watch a baseball game streamed and compressed on a computer monitor when I could watch it in far better quality on my television? I mean, for the games that aren't shown locally, that'd be cool. But the rest? I can't imagine there would be demand to cheat the system...

  7. Business (Re:Well, that's stupid) by slouie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Almost right on target. Webcasting would not devalue the broadcasting rights, but does violate them. Each team "owns" the broadcasting rights to their home games. That's a LOT of money. The Yankee Corporation get about $1/month for every person subscribed to their basic cable channel, Yankee Entertainment System (YES). MLB cannot broadcast a competing product without violating their contract, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CHEAPER TO WATCH IT ON CABLE. That is, very few people will watch the Yanks in NYC via the MLB webcast, but MLB has to make some effort to insure YES that they are not undercutting them. It's the appearance of preserving the rights of individual teams rather than appear as a "rival" to them.

    All advertising will probably be blacked out or replaced with a "filler" screen so there is no legal problems from that end.

    The big losers for this will people who would like to watch the game from work within the "banned" radius. The internet radio version of this was great for people trapped in buildings with no reception. Too bad the MLB got involved and let their lawyers loose on the "implications."

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  8. MLB TV blackout rules are out of date by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The interesting part is that in order not to violate TV blackout rules, they'll try to deny service to viewers who instead have local broadcasts available, using Quova's user-location service.

    IMO the MLB tv blackout rules are an anachronism of a bygone era.

    Besides preventing national broadcasts from competing with local broadcasts (which is arguably a "good thing") they also force fans who live outside the broadcast/must-carry range of the local station to pay outrageous Pay Per View charges to watch their favorite team.

    If I was a bad citizen, I'd consider modifying my sattellite TV receiver to allow me to get out of market local channels as locals... Not that I would ever do that, of course.
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    1. Re:MLB TV blackout rules are out of date by dpille · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IMO the MLB tv blackout rules are an anachronism of a bygone era.

      I completely agree. What fascinates me is that the league will complain about the precarious financial health of the sport, but they can't seem to adjust their broadcast/delivery scheme to actually collect money from those willing to pay. Why on earth would you ever black out an interested/paying customer?

      The webcasting blackout thing is yet another example of how mlb can't get it's act together on this. The product should be baseball, and a fan should be able to choose their own convenient medium. Instead, the league sells the media: buy our webcasting so you can get a few games, buy our hollow-sounding audio feeds so you can hear the radio broadcast before the sun goes down, buy our satellite package (but we hope you have local cable for when we black you out), oh, and keep that analogue antenna around.... It's no wonder they're in trouble when a fan like me with ready money can't get the games I want in the format I want when the announcers and cameras are there anyway.

  9. Minor league! by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who gives a rip about major league anymore anyway? The games are boring as hell, your tickets cost at least $50, a beer and a brat another $12 or worse...and who only wants one beer at a ballgame. And who could forget the lovely seating for the fans...half a mile from the damn diamond.

    You want real damn baseball, you go to your hometown minor league club. Sit right behind homeplate for $6. $3 for a brat and another $2.50 for a great American MACRObrew. None of that microbrew shit where some pretentious nitwit makes comments like "..a deliciously hoppy body and a crisp bite on the tongue. The nose is that of lemon rinds, and the tasting follows through with a light citrus flavor that cleanses and refreshes the palate..." wanker. Cheer when the pitcher beans a batter in the head for the 7th time in the game. Jump in your seat when a popup fly clangs into the roof of the stands. Get pissed drunk. Taunt the other team and listen to them curse. Moon the mascot if there is one. Yell at the kids. Then stagger home. Minor league's all about mom apple pie and america (and beer). Major's about subway series where no matter what New freakin' York wins, corporate greed, and rich assholes on the team, owning the team, and in the good seats. Screw 'em.

    1. Re:Minor league! by Party+Remover · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You want real damn baseball, you go to your hometown minor league club.

      Preach it.

      I've been a New York Mets fan for 20 years, but I've sworn off consciously giving any money to MLB in the wake of 1) the threatened strike and 2) the abusive strongarm bullshit that the Mets pulled on their most prominent fan site last summer.

      The New Jersey Jackals play in a stadium 10 minutes from my house. Parking is $2 (Mets: $10). Box seats four rows off the third base line are $8 (Mets: N/A. Those seats aren't available for public purchase, i.e. "you gotta know someone"). A hot dog is $1.75 (Mets: $4.50. And the last one I had was cold, for God's sake).

      Tired of overpaid, prima donna athletes? The Jackals' best pitcher last year recently informed them that he won't be available to pitch at the start of this season...because he took a job teaching high school science in upstate NY, and he has to finish the school year. You can't help but cheer for these guys.

      Last, but not least, the concessions sell good beer at normal bar prices. What's not to like? I'm getting myself all worked up for the Northeast League season just by typing this.

      Mets fandom is a hard habit to break, and I'll probably still listen to some games on the radio or catch some of the relatively few still available on free TV. But I'm not buying any MLB tickets this year...ditto merchandise. And I cancelled Fox Sports NY from my cable company.

      If you're a MLB fan and you live near a minor league team, do yourself (and the minor league players) a favor and check them out. It's a whole different scene, and you don't know what you're missing.