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Fuel Cells Promised For Next Year

An anonymous reader writes "According to an article in today's New York Times, fuel cells for portable consumer electronic devices will start appearing next year. First for laptops, and later for smaller devices like cellphones. Among the interesting benefits of fuel cells over batteries is the ability to swap cells without having to power down the device." The article mentions the Toshiba cells demonstrated at CeBit, and -- no surprise -- Japan is likely to be the first market for these tiny fuel cells.

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  1. I sent this off to the author (re ethanol) by nweaver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is one other very important aspect of micro-fuel-cells which, as far as I know, no company has latched onto at least in public.

    40% ethanol/60% water is a significantly less efficient fuel than methanol, but it is realily available (although heavily taxed) almost everywhere in the US as Vodka, as well as being much cheaper as denatured alcohol.

    The probable ideal fuel cell would be able to operate on denatured ethanol (for lower cost) as well as straight vodka. It would be incredibly useful for one to be able to refill the fuel cell using something readily available from most airline beverage services and hotel minibars.

    Improvements to allow impurities (eg, Tequila, Whisky) would be even better, as now the fuel cell can operate on a wide variety of commonly available fuels. Allowing the cell to operate over a wider range of alcohol as well (20%-80% ethanol) would now allow even more variety in fuels as well as using more dense (and more efficient) fuels.

    In 10 years, my personal bet is that most portable fuel cells will be ethanol powered, specifically for the fuel-availability convenience.

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    1. Re:I sent this off to the author (re ethanol) by saskboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What happens to your laptop though when it is done guzzling the booze? Does it stumble home, and puke?

      Seriously though, what happens to the elements in the liquid that aren't Hydrogen? Is it drained, or evaporated?

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    2. Re:I sent this off to the author (re ethanol) by Tuxinatorium · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do you know how espensive that would be even if you got 50 miles to the gallon of whisky?

  2. Sodium Borohydride to the rescue by sssmashy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hydrogen is the obvious fuel of choice for portable fuel cells - it packs more energy than any other (non-nuclear) fuel into a given amount of mass.

    The problem is finding a safe and efficient mechanism to transport the hydrogen. A fuel cell powered by a canister of highly compressed hydrogen gas could have the destructive power of a grenade if ignited... not something you'd want sitting next to you on a plane or subway. Meanwhile, the logistics of transporting liquid hydrogen (which must be kept cool at cryogenic temperatures) are such that it will probably never be used in portable fuel cells.

    Considering how important viable hydrogen storage is to our future economy, it's amazing how few research dollars have been directed at the problem. One possible solution is sodium borohydride in an aqueous solution. Hydrogen is released when the NaBH4(aq) is passed through a catalyst. The solution is completely stable and nontoxic at room temperature, yet stores more hydrogen per liter than liquid H2.

    1. Re:Sodium Borohydride to the rescue by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The molecular structure of the liquid he mentions is such that when packed into a liquid, it takes up less volume than liquid hydrogen. Its like the puzzel pieces fit together more nicely.

      I do not know if this particular compound he mentioned is like this, and I'm not a chemist. But I remember in chemistry class we mixed 1/2 cup rubbing alcohol with 1/2 cup some other liquid, and out came ~3/4 cup liquid, not a full cup like expected. The reason for this is as I have described above.

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  3. Why do new technologies emerge East to West? by EpsilonFour · · Score: 5, Interesting
    All new technologies seem to originate in Japan, appear simultanously or shortly thereafter in Europe, and then after up to a decade finally make it to the US.

    And why do a lot of people in the US seem to think we are the vanguard of scientific research and development. Sure, some things apear first but many, but as I said many things are developed elsewhere first.

    Is it regulation, funding (or lack of), or is the US not a good testbed for new technologies? Or is it all of them? I can see many madical things being developed or used overseas because of FDA regulations, and common sense tells me the average American needs help turning on a computer, let alone figuring out one of those newfangled (read: oldfangled :]) 3-G cell phones.

    1. Re:Why do new technologies emerge East to West? by praksys · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All new technologies seem to originate in Japan, appear simultanously or shortly thereafter in Europe, and then after up to a decade finally make it to the US. And why do a lot of people in the US seem to think we are the vanguard of scientific research and development.

      Several factors are at work.

      One is just the effect of anecdotal evidence. If you already suspect that technology is moving faster in other places then you will notice stories that confirm your belief, and discount stories that dis-confirm your belief. If you want to gret real evidence one way or the other then you need to look at the relevant statistics on R&D expenditure, and patent applications (both of which show the US way out in front on basic research, and product development).

      Another factor is the difference in markets. Japan has a very high proportion of early adopters, so new technologies tend to do far better in Japan, and have a much better chance of getting established there, than anywhere else. I don't know whether the same can be said for Europe. In any case, this is a matter of where technolgies first go to market, not a matter of where they get developed, or whether the initial research was done.

      A third factor may just be the particular market you are looking at. Japanese companies dominate the consumer electronics market, so if you are looking at consumer electronics to judge the pace of technological development then of course Japan will appear to be leading. If you look at other technology markets then the picture looks quite different.