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TerraSoft Releases YellowDog Linux 3.0
chriseh writes "For those of us who prefer Linux to the candydrop OS, good news! YellowDog Linux 3.0 has been released. For those who don't want to wait, you can get an enhanced membership at YDL.net and download ISOs directly. As per other releases, ISOs will be available to everyone/mirrors two weeks after the CDs have been on sale.Finally, I can run Linux on my 12" Powerbook."
extrarice amplifies: "New features include: Redesigned installer, a unified KDE 3.1/GNOME 2.2 desktop (both WMs share the same icons and menus), Kernel 2.4.20, and the usual package refinements/updates. More release info can be found here.
Note: ISOs are not available yet, and CDs are scheduled to ship in mid-April. I have been running YDL 2.x for about a year now, and it's a fast, stable distro."
I thought Slashdot LOVED OS X?
So, will there be extreme uproar and protest over YDL unifying GNOME and KDE, too, or will everyone have finally realized RedHat had a good idea?
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would I want to install YDL. I can do everything I want in OS X now in a much friendlier operating system. Plus, now that I have an Apple X11 program I see fewer and fewer reasons. Moreover, when you buy an Apple you are paying a premium for the OS, why buy an apple when you could just buy a cheap box and install an x86 linux distro. Am I missing something?
Somewhere in California - At 8:30 PDT with the release of Snoopy Linux 2.1, Goober Linux 1.0, and Yellow Dog Linux 3.0, the number of Linux distributions finally surpassed the number of actual Linux users.
"We've been expecting it for some time," Merrill Lynch technology analyst Tom Shayes said, "but this is a little sooner than most expected. We've seen explosive growth in the number of Linux distributions, in fact my nephew just put out LittleLinux Chart Tommy Linux 1.1 last week."
Long time Linux guru Bob Tallman said, "This is great for the open source movement. I have 7 different versions installed on my computer at home. Some guys I know have over 30."
Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer said, "Microsoft will have to play catch up with the number of versions that Linux has, but we think we can do it. With the break up of Microsoft imminent that will instantly double the number of Windows versions available."
Microsoft also announced the release of Pocket PC for Workgroups, Windows GT special edition and Windows 2000 - the Director's Cut with special code added by Bill Gates himself that wasn't in the original release.
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Is there an equivalent of Wine for running Mac OS X applications on Linux/PowerPC?
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Yes, it's called "Mac On Linux", available here.
Basically, it boots the MacOS on top of Linux, as opposed to emulation.
"Jesus saves, but everyone else in a 10 foot radius takes full damage from the fireball."
You're mixing concepts. Darwin is the open-sourced BSD-based core of OS X. That can be (note I'm not saying it is, but it can be) emulated pretty easily in Linux. The problem is when you try to do it with any of the libraries above Darwin, i.e. quartz. If you try to clone those libraries, Apple will hit you with a lawsuit so fast you'll wish you were being sodomized by Bill and Steve. The short answer is, no. No OSX apps for you.
Perhaps I don't understand but the whole reason I purchased an iMac was to have the great OS and the suite of apps that came with it. The hardware is good but nothing that amazing and could be purchased on the pc side for a lot less money if all you are going to do is turn around and install a linux distro. Am I missing why this is a "Good Thing"?
-=SiGH=-
Why ruin a perfectly good system with Mac OS X and install Linux over it?
Sure I can see running this on an old PowerMac that Mac OS X doesn't support. But wasting your time/effort to wipe out a prefectly good *nix based system that you can actually buy software off a shelf in a store for (besides the 50 distros)
Just seems like a waste of time.
Now, the little BriQ device they have, sure, YDL would be cool on them. But to wipe out a new system with Mac OS X 10.2.x on it seems wrong.
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
Its time to switch to Linux when you have dozens of old mac's that can run only old MAC OSes. With YD you can trun those (usless mac) machines in to servers, routers, firewalls etc.
Finally, I can run Linux on my 12" Powerbook.
The poster seems unaware that Debian can run on Apple hardware. Or should I be assuming that the user had tried to run Debian, but unique hardware had prevented it?
Posted from an ssh tunnel to a PowerMac 7600 upgraded to a G3 running Woody.
I've been running Gentoo PPC 1.4 on my revision A imac (the original gumdrop-shaped one) for a couple of months now. It runs great, and I get the benefit of Gentoo's portage system. I'd recommend giving that a shot to anyone interested in linux on a mac. Plus you can frequent the #gentoo-ppc room and chat with gerk. He's dreamy.
"More organs means more human." - Zim
No but booting MacOS over the top of Linux is not the same. Wine lets you run Windows applications without needing the original Windows code, and they execute as Linux processes that happen to have a weird binary loader and set of libraries.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
As YDL is based on RH, the uproar shouldnt be any more extreme than usual.
Pure plagiarism. If one's going to steal old articles, the least one can do is reference the original.
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Does anybody know if you can install YDL to run exclusively from an external firewire drive? I'd like to try it out, but don't want to mess around with partitioning my existing HDD. But, I do have an iPod and could use that as the harddrive for it if that is possible. Does anyone know if this sort of thing can be done?
"For those who don't want to wait, you can get an enhanced membership at YDL.net and download ISOs directly. As per other releases, ISOs will be available to everyone/mirrors two weeks after the CDs have been on sale."
Maybe Mandrake should follow this business model. After all, if they are hemmoraging money like they are, this would give a chance for at least some income without violating the GPL.
The streets shall run with the blood of the nonbeleivers! You shall put Linux on your Mac! You shall put Linux on your XBox! You shall put Linux on your Mr. Coffee! To not use Linux is to be in league with The Devil!
Hell, I don't know. Linux (well, Unix in general) makes my head hurt.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
I dual boot with OS X. OS X is fun, but gentoo is much faster and more configurable.
how i installed gentoo: install
Is there an equivalent of Wine for running Mac OS X applications on Linux/PowerPC? How many of the libraries in Mac OS X have equivalents in Linux (how close is GNUstep to Apple's stuff, etc)?
GNUstep works okay with Apple stuff although there are some compile issues because of Aqua. Linux Journal has a neat article about this. You can view the TOC here
If you're not interested in running Linux on PPC hardware, fine, but don't be a dick about other people doing so.... Jeez...
FWIW, I'm getting a laptop to replace my workstation at the office, and I am considering getting a Mac laptop and running Linux on it, not because I want to "dink around with package installation, X configuration, and hardware compatibility issues", but to do work on. Why? Because Linux is my *nix development platform of choice, and Apple makes the best laptops around from what I can tell.
I've "dinked around" with OS X a bunch, and personally, I don't think it's all it's hyped up to be. Sure, it's great, but nothing to jizz over. For a *nix, I prefer Linux or FreeBSD.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would I want to install YDL.
Well, maybe because timothy says "I have been running YDL 2.x for about a year now, and it's a fast, stable distro."
Except for that whole crashing thing, of course. It crashes during install and it crashes during configuration. But if you just pop the CD in, then timothy's right, it's a fast, stable distro, if you want to use your powerbook as a paperweight or a doorstop.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
I'd say Yellow Dog is an excellent solution to pre-Blue & White PowerMac OS needs. OS X won't run on most systems made before that and even B&Ws, original iMacs, and iBooks system will run faster with Yellow-Dog than OS X.
You can use XPostFacto to install OS X onto many pre B&W Macs. OS X 10.0 and 10.1 will install onto a 604 based system; 10.2 requires a G3 or G4. I used XPostFacto to install OS X 10.0.3 onto my ancient 7600/120...mind you it runs like shit, but it is possible nonetheless. I also have YDL 2.3 on there, together with Mac OS 9.1 (which runs the best out of the lot of them).
Really? How fast does MS Office start up on it?
I've found Warcraft III to run somewhat slowly on my computer. Is it faster on Yellow Dog?
Escape Velocity Nova seems pretty zippy already. Is it really faster? Maybe it loads faster. I have to wait 5 or 6 seconds at the loading screen...
What about CarbonCopyCloner? I've had to back up some stuff and it seems really damn fast.
How about... oh, gosh, what to choose... oh, iLife! The iMovie integration with iTunes seems like it could be sped up a little. Will 'switching' achieve this?
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