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Survey: Linux Draws Windows Developers
Twintop writes "According to this story on eWEEK, more Linux developers are coming from Windows backgrounds than from UNIX backgrounds according to a recent study by Evans Data. The original story and the actual survey from Evans Data is available as well."
The problem is that surveys like this aren't scientific polls, so you can't take the results too seriously.
Of course, it would be far more interesting to measure what percentage of Windows developers have switched to Linux development, than what percentage of Linux developers switched from Windows.
I was talking with my girl about neo natal care. We decided to do it, to check up on Junior. And the Amnio found out that my Son to be had an extra Chromosome. A retard. I said to my girl,
"Hey, we must abort this fetus."
She is like; "No way, I'm not ending him. He is a Child of God and we shall raise him together.
I was like; "Yo, listen. This is the devil's child. He is a fucking retard. Now if you don't pull a Kevorkian on him, I'm going to either Chloroform your ass and yank it with a coat-hanger or fucking punch you in the midsection a lot."
So my girl didn't like me, but I'm not bringing a retard into this world. I want a good strong boy to help usher in a new age where technology cures human suffering and where Islam was killed off and exterminated as were all the dictators and communists that are an impedance to human species survival.
So later on, we had a super late abortion. I got her out with a Mickey, its like a Quaalude. Then I made her drink some beer. Then I had the Street-Doc save the aborted fetus. I quickly stole off with the aborted mush to the Chinese restaurant. They can cook anything. Man, was this meat good. Nothing like really being "you are what you eat." This is an interesting thought cycle. If you are what you eat, eat your offspring. I mean, the brains, the stem cells, the young protein. This is perfect nourishment!
So Now I Have to find a way to get girlies knocked up and then eat my fetus. Yum.
And afterbirth and the birthing amniotic juices make great sauce stock.
I don't know why the E-week story says that "According to the survey, 25 percent of the respondents labeled the current crop of compilers as either 'adequate' or 'needs work'" and that "However, according to the survey, the developers also said that Linux development tools need work."
If you look at the actual data, it looks more like no more than 3.8% said that the compilers "need work." 90% rated the compilers as "adequate" or better, and 70% rated the compilers as "very good" or better.
To me, it looks like they just drew a conclusion that they wanted to draw instead of actually looking at the data.
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I assume that we're discussing developers who have switched since we last discussed this survey?
something with subscribed people making sure there are less dupes because they see stories first...
I guess that isn't working out so well?
Buttsex.
Isn't Linux the posterchild OS for *nix arches?
.. and many would be more interested in developing towards more centrally planned OSes like the BSDs ...
I think developers coming from a Unix background would probably look at *all* the choices with free *nixes
Linux gets a ton of media in the mainstream market where wintel developers work. The *BSDs dont get that kind of exposure, so those in the *nix know (ie, Unix developers) are going to look at all available free *nix flavours. I'd be willing to bet that Linux isn't as attractive to those whove been coding on Unix as those who've been coding on wintel.
"Old man yells at systemd"
I can't be specific about the tools and blah I tried but the experience has left a lasting impression; Slow, unhelpful and cumbersome.
;-)
I plan to have another look in the very near future but I suspect I've been spoilt by MS Developer Studio and my Universal subscription
What would be truly cool would be an integrated dev. toolset (like devstudio) that allowed me to develop software for both Linux and Windows - anyone know of such a tool, either free or commercial?
I was at S/M conference last night. A couple guys were talking about some new program. It's called GNU/Turd Unix. I'm not sure what it means, but they mentioned the /dev/nullo device a lot.
This could probably be explained by the fact that there are far more windows developers out there. A small percent of them prolly add up to a big number.
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I started developing for 0.98 kernel using Slackware in '96 (i think) and was very impressed at the free product that was linux at that time.
Now every time I download an ISO and install it (various distros) it amazes me how far linux has come. I'm running RH 7.3 currently but 8.0 looks cool (I'm one of three people that actually likes the unified desktop).
'96: programming dot clocks to try to get XWindows to run on my video card, text install, boot disk req'd
'03: cd based install, almost completely grandmafied (my word for grandma can use it), excellent 3rd Party Software (Oracle, Borland, StarOffice,
I kind of miss those InfoMagic CD sets for $15 that had redhat, debian, slackware, suse, and the several cd's of docs. Those were the days.
Linux _does_ attract windblows "programmers"
This truly may be the end of Linux... you know.
I think the problem is windows developers are still indoctrinated in the point and click mentality. They seem to think that since a tool requires typing it must be worse. Personally I've found that the bottle neck caused by having to use the mouse so often is crippling. I find that windows desperatlely needs tools like 'find' 'grep' 'sort' and 'bash'. Not to mention the Windows window manager is a bottle neck all of it's own. With a typical window manager I can map each destop to it's on key combo to acces desktops and windows directly rather than sequentially.
I think it says alot that I who still hunt and peck for my typing find the command line to be a faster interface. Ok it's not a pure hunt and peck any more but I can't type without looking.
I got a call from Microsoft today, asking if I was going to renew my MSDN subscription.
I told them I didn't do enought windows development to justify the cost anymore, which is true enough.
I got the impression that the salesperson had ticked that box a few times recently...
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Well, that explain why there's so much bloatwares in the open source world. haw haw
How is "grandmafied" a good thing? That just attracts every tech-inept social reject who for some reason doesn't like windows (like... its "cool" for him to use Linux now..) I WANT to program dot clocks. I want to know WHAT THE SYSTEM IS DOING WHEN I INSTALL. I want simplicity. Thus, I hate Suse, I hate RH. I love Slackware. Go Volkerding! Go!
Amen, brother. Linux must remain the exclusive domain of social rejects who vastly overestimate their own technical skills. Like you, for example.
compiler != development tools.
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I started out programming systems under DOS (DBase, TAS, etc.) and then later under Windows (C, C++, Delphi, Visual nasty Basic). I only started developing under Linux when I heard about it 3-4 years ago.
Until then, I'd never heard of Linux. I knew about the existence of UNIX in general, but the small firms I worked for couldn't afford it and then when I worked for larger software houses, I was pigeon-holed into the Windows development area so got no exposure to UNIX. I just recall bigoted sysadmins complaining about these "Windows toys".
The first time I used Linux was installing Mandrake 6 (or something like that) from a magazine cover CD, where I immediately fell in love with the wonderful power of the command line again, along with the marvelous tenet of programs that "do one job, and do it well".
So yes, I fall into the ex-Windows (badoom-tisch!) bracket - how many other Slashdotters do?