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Cisco to Acquire Linksys

forged writes "The Boston Globe is reporting that networking giant Cisco Systems plans to acquire Linksys later this year for $500M, thus entering the consumer market. Linksys also has a press release. The good news is that those who bought a Linksys access point now have a Cisco access point for 1/2 of the price ;)"

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  1. Sweet! by mschoolbus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally Cisco is going to get some strength behind their networking products!

    1. Re:Sweet! by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sometimes cost is a bigger factor then uptime, at least with home users that don't want to spend thousands of dollors and have to have a CCNA to admin their home router for their 3 computers...

  2. Is Cisco the new Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean, they (seem to me to) have a virtual monopoly on the business router market, and are now seem to be trying to extend it to the consumer market.

    What do you guys think of Cisco, as a corporation? I remember seeing an article on Wired years ago about how happy the employees were about working there.

    Things may have changed now, though.

    tmegapscm

    1. Re:Is Cisco the new Microsoft? by Xformer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wouldn't surprise me. They recently bought Psionic as well and, as far as I can tell, handy tools like PortSentry and Logcheck are nowhere to be found anymore. Instead, PortSentry at least has been assimilated into overpriced Cisco products.

      At least I still have the copies that I downloaded several months ago...

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    2. Re:Is Cisco the new Microsoft? by netdistortion · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Cisco was a GREAT place to work at. I enjoyed working there for about 2 months (contract job). They give their employees IBM thinkpads for work. Great cafeterias, gyms, and discounts on cisco products. There's other benefits, but as a contract employee of theirs I didn't get all of them. http://www.netdistortion.com

  3. And the bad news... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 4, Funny

    The good news is that those who bought a Linksys access point now have a Cisco access point for 1/2 of the price ;)

    The bad news is that those who buy Cisco access points in the future will have a Linksys access point for twice the price ;)

    1. Re:And the bad news... by T-Ranger · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you change the name on the linksys stuff do they magicly stop sucking?

    2. Re:And the bad news... by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just like getting married.

      When a woman changes her name by getting married, she also stops sucking.

      nothing magic about it though

    3. Re:And the bad news... by JPriest · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually for price/performance and ease of install Linksys seems to be dominating the home networking sector. You can pick up a 4 port 10/100 full duplex Linksys router for about $50. My slower 4 port cisco (806) router was $550. Maybe They can offer less expensive IOS/firewall home LAN solutions now.

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    4. Re:And the bad news... by elmegil · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sounds like you married the wrong woman, buddy.

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  4. FP! by Jennifer+Ever · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well bravo. Cisco's inraods into the consumer market didn't do too well, so it's a smart move to pick up an established brand. This also puts Cisco into direct competition with companies making both client and infrastructure devices (i.e. 3Com, Intel, etc).

  5. Expect a price hike for Linksys equipment by yerricde · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The good news is that those who bought a Linksys access point now have a Cisco access point for 1/2 of the price

    That is, until Cisco raises the price on all the devices sold under its Linksys brand by oh, about 50 percent so that it doesn't compete with Cisco brand devices.

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    1. Re:Expect a price hike for Linksys equipment by binaryDigit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is, until Cisco raises the price on all the devices sold under its Linksys brand by oh, about 50 percent so that it doesn't compete with Cisco brand devices.

      That doesn't make any sense. If Cisco raised the prices by 50%, then the Linksys stuff WOULD compete with Cisco, since they'll now be in similar price categories. How on earth is Cisco going to differentiate Linksys vs Cisco if this occurs? Makes more sense that Linksys continues to be the low price option and Cisco to be the corp. higher price option. Remember, Linksys is in the consumer market, Cisco almost exclusively in the corporate. Linksys would get killed by the Netgears and SMC's of the world with such a price hike.

    2. Re:Expect a price hike for Linksys equipment by ciscoeng · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Doubtful. The reason behind the purchase is to gain more market in the home network business, so there's really not much incentive to raise the prices.

  6. 1/2 the price, sure... by softsign · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The good news is that those who bought a Linksys access point now have a Cisco access point for 1/2 of the price

    And 1/4 the quality!

    1. Re:1/2 the price, sure... by Pii · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Toy though it may be, Cisco has zero presence in the home market (Well, other than *my* home... I've got 7 Routers, and a Layer-3 switch), and on the store shelves next to the Netgears and Dlinks of the world, the LinkSys name does just fine.

      People have bought into Wireless. People have bought into broadband routers, and SOHO firewall appliances. The home networking market is exploding, and Cisco can no longer afford to ignore it as a means of adding to their bottom line.

      Besides, who doesn't love the WET-11?

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    2. Re:1/2 the price, sure... by kawika · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Amen, brother. I just spent two hours on the phone with a friend who was trying to find the working Windows XP driver for a Linksys 802.11 card. The card was poorly labeled and their list at http://www.linksys.com/download/ is only easy to search if you do a view/source on the HTML.

      Finally, I gave up and told him to email tech support. Turns out that particular card shares a plug and play ID with a card that takes totally different drivers. You have to determine the driver you need by looking at markings on the card! For those of you who have dealt with PnP you know this is a horrible sin. The whole idea of PnP was to let the computer figure this stuff out.

  7. Does this mean my CCNA certs by Punk+Walrus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will require me to get CTHULHU? Cisco Training: Home User, Limited Home Use?

  8. In the end just leads to more domination by millwall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think Cisco should have stuck to their core business and not try to diversify. This move will only be good for those few customers that will gain a Cisco access point for 1/2 of the price right now.

    In the end it will probably just help create a new MS-like giant. I've never been a fan av any kind of corporate giant.

  9. Buy them to kill them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have no doubt that Cisco is feeling the effects on their bottom line by Linsys' low cost alternatives.. it's time to eliminate that problem...

    1. Re:Buy them to kill them... by nolife · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, they still have Netgear, D-Link, Siemens, and SMC to deal with in the low cost market.
      I do not think they are trying to put them out of the market but trying to offer a Cisco product line that meets all needs from bottom to top. In the enterprise world, most purchases are done because you already have an existing companies product so why not buy them for everything. Hell, I'd bet most large companies would seriously consider Cisco PC's or heaven forbid Microsoft business class routers and switches if they were offered.

      Most companies do not selectively choose individual lines unless they have too. It is not surprising to see Compaq servers, Compaq san's, Compaq tape backups, and Compaq PC's and laptops on every desk and server room in a corporate environment.

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  10. Maybe Lynksys can support another platform! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sure the Lynksys router I have works with my Mac/Unix/Windows network, but you'd think by their website you have herpes if you run anything other than Windows.

    Hey, why'd you all get quiet all of a sudden?

    Uh, I have to go...

  11. This Sucks!!! by warpSpeed · · Score: 4, Insightful
    How long until Cisco kills off LinkSys?

    I like LinkSys products because they are functional and cheap. Ciscos products are functional, robust but not cheap. I guess Cisco is getting scared of the competition, and decided to crush them...

    1. Re:This Sucks!!! by binaryDigit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I guess Cisco is getting scared of the competition, and decided to crush them...

      Huh? How is Linksys competition to Cisco. Linksys stuff is primarily aimed at the home/small office. Cisco stuff is targeted towards corps/isps/large installs. I've never heard an IT guy for a large install saying "Gee should I go with Aironet or the WAP11" or Joe Bob saying, "I wonder if it's worth it to pay 10x more for an Aironet wap vs the Linksys". Cisco apparently wants into the lowend market. Where you do have a point is to see how long Cisco keeps the Linksys name. Do you lose consumer familiarity with Linksys to push the "prestige" of the Cisco name?

  12. The real difference by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cisco:Hard to configure, very configurable.

    Linksys:Easy to configure, not very configurable

  13. Ultimately Bad by Bonker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the short term, this will probably be quite good for both Cisco and Linksys, but after a while both entities, if they still exist as separate entities, will start to regret this move.

    First of all, Cisco now has a lot more to worry about, and they've have lot to worry about lately what with their stock prices fluctuating and a slowly decreasing demand for networking hardware as more and more IT firms belly up and more of the ones who stay in business consolodating their IT servies through hosting firms and the like.

    The consumer hardware market is *very* low margin. There's a reason that they call this stuff 'Commodity' hardware... including networking hardware. If Cisco has to play the commodity hardware game for long, they're going to start feeling like having a company come buy them out as well.

    Second, the number of players in the networking field keeps getting fewer and fewer. This seems like a good thing for the companies-- they don't have to compete as hard or do as much R&D to stay at the top. What this means for them in the long run, however, is that they become less able to deal with business crises and the advent of new tech. Just look at the way wireless is taking off right now. If you think this technology is done by a long shot or that there aren't new companies sprining up to exploit it, you should study it a little more. Sooner or later there will be a 'powerhouse' company spring up for an aspect of networking that's troublesome for Cisco, and then they'll have problems keeping up and staying competitive if they cut back right now at all.

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  14. New CISCO Innovations from Linksys by bahwi · · Score: 5, Funny

    To increase usability, all CISCO routers will now come with a web interface accessible on the rarely used port 80. It will have a default username/password of: admin/password. In case the username/password are forgotten, CISCO tech support can use their back-up account that they have in all CISCO boxes to access the box and change the admin password. No one will be able to find out this secret account, we're kinda sure of that.

  15. no change or cheaper products. by ayf6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would imagine that cisco wouldn't do much to change the actual linksys line. I doubt they would build on their router's OS since the whole idea in the consumer market is to have an easy to configure product. Cisco will probrably want to keep a sharp distinction between their consumer products with easy to configure web interfaces (ie the old linksys ones) and their mid to high end corporate products. I do not think that either the consumer needs to worry about products becoming hard to configure, nor do i think that corporate IT needs to worry about a decline in quality of the high end stuff. This merger is not meant to "improve" technology. Its simply meant for cisco to enter a new market. I seriously doubt anything will change pricewise. If it does it would probrably mean cheaper consumer products since cisco has much more in assets and could seem to be in a position to undercut netgear. Just think, now we can have microsoft vs cisco price wars for the home network... Soon we're going to be getting home routing equipment for free if it follow the netscape vs internet explorer model ;)

  16. It's the (smart) Walmart way... by aksansai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cisco provides outstanding quality networking and communications products for the IT sector of the enterprise. However, with the dot-bomb era of the computing industry, Cisco's shares have fallen drastically as a result of companies not actually needing to acquire Cisco equipment as much as they thought. The effect on Cisco? Over-stocked inventories required price-slashing to remain competitive. Their existing market segment is slow, sustained growth. The Linksys acquisition caters to a dynamic, expanding market.

    The reason I say it's the Walmart way is because Walmart provides just about everything you can think of that is smaller than a car - some of the Walmarts where I live actually have the Walmart Appliance section. Walmart sells clothing, food, tools, etc.

    Most individuals looking for high quality (cost) goods will not be purchasing their designer fashions at Walmart. Instead, they choose to go to Dillards, Parisians, Eddie Bauer, and other higher quality - smaller customer base distributors. Yet, when you look at it in the end - who makes the most money (by a huge margin)? You guessed it - Walmart.

    The vast majority of consumers are middle-class to lower-class individuals. Many companies that have taken a huge beating in the market place are looking for cost cutting measures. 40 Linksys switches or 10 Cisco switches for the same cost? The "Linksys line by Cisco" would be like the "Great Value" Walmart brand. The Cisco native branded equipment, I would imagine, would be for the people who still want to shop at Eddie Bauer, etc.

    Linksys is a highly popular choice for cable companies who provide their broadband service because it's extraordinarily cheap with a pretty decent track record. Cisco acquires not only Linksys, but its existing relationship with all of the companies who buy Linksys equipment in bulk. As a result, Cisco gains market share into an arena it previously untapped venture without having to invest the capital to pursue moving into an already crowded arena.

    I would imagine the Linksys brand name would stay around for quite a while (much like the legacy of USRobotics when purchased by 3Com) to diversify the two segments of the company for marketing purposes.

    The only caveat to this acquisition is the fact that it was a purchase of another company. Many companies which made acquisitions before the dot-bomb crash did not efficiently integrate the companies, and they ended up either being dead-weights or misused to the point of extinction. Only time will tell.

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  17. VoIP by m0i · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe Cisco will push IP phones to consumers thru Linksys, at an affordable price.. Big market there!

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  18. At least they are doing something they're good at. by anocelot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call me crazy (OK, you're crazy!) but it seems to me that Cisco is getting a little more bang for their buck here then simply acquiring new market share by finally doing something that investors are conformable with. i.e. Acquisition. ;)

    The biggest news here is that cisco will finally be able to enter a complete solution into the content delivery market. A company can provide online content with massive high-end cisco name brand stuff, and use the acquired linksys stuff to give them the other end of the pipeline as a complete package.

    As more local telco companies are looking at providing high-speed internet access, this becomes very interesting indeed.

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  19. How is this possible? by Planx_Constant · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the Thong song as much as the next guy, but how on earth did Sisqo ever make enough to buy a consumer electronics company?

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  20. I work in Wireless Networking... by craenor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linksys makes the best home networking equipment. I mean, just stop and forget everything you know about networking...and think about it from a n00b perspective.

    You want something cheap, attractive and easy to setup and use. For those knocking Linksys quality, allow me to let you in on a little secret...they are the best. In the home networking, wireless networking business, Linksys gear rules.

    Now yes, I work in wireless networking...but guess what, I don't work for Linksys or Cisco. I work for one of their competitors. Despite my strong sense of company loyalty, I'll still admit freely that Cisco equipment is the best for Corporate networks (duh) and Linksys equipment is the best for Home Networks. People with Home Networks don't care about firewalls, security, layering and routing, they just want their 3 computers online at the same time, with a high speed connection.

    btw, before anyone puts words in my mouth. I tried to stress that Linksys has the best quality gear...and they do. I didn't say anything about their tech support, which is "lacking".

    Craenor