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Updates on War in Iraq

New Developments on the war in Iraq: Oil Fields ablaze in southern Iraq. Turkey opens airspace to U.S.. US Forces 3rd Infantry Fire Heavy Artillery at Southern Iraq. The schedule has been accelerated due to infrastructure destruction. CT: Explosions and heavy anti aircraft fire heard in Baghdad. We'll continue to update as new information warrants.

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  1. Hit them hard, and hit them fast by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    I was against this before, but now its too late for that talk. I just hope they hit them hard, hit them fast and get Saddam out of there so we can come back home with as few killed as possible. Pray for the troops

  2. Re:Scud Missles launched by taniwha · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    well - there's no way to know they are Scuds, could be El-Samouds (sic) you can't really tell what a missile is while it's in the air apart from how high and how far it goes (it's not like they have photos .... unless your expecting it) - and both of those sorts of missiles have those sorts of ranges.

    What I found funny was the US claim that they'd shot down 2 of the 4 missiles with patriots ... that's 50% much worse than the 100% the elder Bush claimed in '91. Of course that time it turned out afterwards that what he was saying was bullshit and they'd missed every single one (or got only 10% depending on which report you beleive). So I guess 50% of 0 probably isn't really any different that 100% of 0

  3. Re:And it all could have been avoided... by mondoterrifico · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This can't have seriously gotten modded up? Complete rubbish. I mean does every single person on slashdot eat and shit US propaganda?

    Why is it that there are never any skeptical viewpoints on whether your government, who has lied as a matter of policy(Iran-Contra anyone?), is feeding the US population a stream of lies and half truths.

  4. Re:And it all could have been avoided... by justsomebody · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    200 years after the founding of the (admittedly flawed but still admirably fair) American democracy

    God, I hope you don't really believe the things You say. Democracy is not what you have, on paper and by name maybe, but reality is different

    destroy the country than give up their power?

    Then it's probably America the one who should lead in this.

    Who in the right mind would give America power to decide for others, I know I didn't

    Explanation
    1. Whenever US interferred in some nation they caused more pain and sorrow than it was.
    2. Whenever US calls their judgement, who the fsck gives them right, but they still do
    3. Most of the last wars (10 or 20) in the world were actualy caused by US
    4. Most of the wars were longer because of US

    Conclusion. I hope you'll get a new Vietnam (read as ASS KICKED)

    I guess I hate America and what it represents (or you can call it a lie), not Americans, there's many people from US whom I know who are just plain people, no politics, no bullshit.

    p.s. Please, get a new sucker to be president, Bush is not sane, or get a better remote (democracy)

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  5. It really is an Evil Jewish Conspiracy (tm) by SailorBob · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Palestinian from Jenin said killed in Baghdad bombardment
    By THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

    A Palestinian man from the West Bank city of Jenin was said to have been killed in the US missile strikes on Baghdad early Thursday morning.

    The family of Ahmed Raed Elbaz received a phone call from relatives in the Iraqi capital to say that Elbaz had been killed in the bombardment that targeted Iraqi leaders.

    The family set up a mourning tent and said that Elbaz was a bus driver in Baghdad.

    Both Iraq and the International Red Cross said that one civilian had been killed and 14 wounded in the air strikes.

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  6. Re:but Saddam by Tackhead · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    > said during the interview with Dan Rather that he will NOT set the wells on fire and I believed him. My trust in Saddam is now shattered. Going to see my shrink.

    And Hans Blix said this morning that he was surprised that Saddam had any Scuds either!

    B-b-b-b-but the inspections were working!

    (Sure, they were working if Blix defined "working" as "every day my inspectors continue to find nothing, I can keep my cushy UN job", Anyone who's watched an Andersen conslutant on an IT project should have seen through Blix's snowscreen from Day One.)

    Ah well, ignorance is Blix.

    In other news, pro wrestling is fixed.

  7. This war is piracy by rednaxel · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    When RIAA says file sharing, copying, etc is piracy, I always remember RMS, when he says that to copy a file cannot be compared to "attacking ships on the high seas, kidnaping and murdering the people" (link below). Pirates used to steal gold, but this time the pilleage is oil.

    Some Confusing or Loaded Words and Phrases that are Worth Avoiding

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  8. Perspectives by The+Bungi · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Flashback to August, 1998. President Clinton, in the middle of his impeachment scandal, orders a cruise missile attack on Afghanistan and Sudan. He is ridiculed and berated for this - 'wag the dog' is a phrase often used. Take it a little further. In August of 1998, 2,000 marines and 1,000 paratroopers land in Afghanistan, occupying Kandahar and Kabul. The world is in an uproar. France, Germany, Russia and China (among others) decry "american imperialism" and condemn the action in a UN resolution. The Clinton administration counters saying that it had good intelligence indicating that terrorists operating and training in Afghanistan were about to launch attacks on American interests and even cities. Clinton is ridiculed and criticized for this.

    Except that September 11 never happens.

    Now fast forward to March, 2003.

    To all you self-righteous americans who claim they're "ashamed" of being american, and to all others who think this is an agression against your beliefs or your comfortable position in the world pecking order - I say this: too fucking bad.

    If the security of the United States depends on taking out Saddam Hussein, along with a few thousands of his soldiers and (regrettably) a few thousands of Iraqi civilians, too bad. Too fucking bad.

    This war is not about oil, about momey or about anything else than security. If you can't see that... well, too bad. Too fucking bad.

  9. Re:USA PR by TKinias · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    scripsit Xerithane:

    Lets say you have a wife. If someone pulls a gun and aims it at her head, do you wait till he pulls the trigger until you do something?

    Sorry, but that's a flawed analogy. Try this: You have a wife. Someone (who you think is a pretty sick f*ck) says ``y'know, I was thinking about picking up that new Glock; it looks pretty cool.'' So you kill him, because he might at some point in the future actually buy that gun, and might if he buys it, think about pointing it at your wife.

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  10. Re:but Saddam by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Please do not judge americans by the above poster. You cannot be offended by that post because he gave you a fair warning -- he quoted the free republic.

    In america, when someone quotes the free republic you stop paying attention to them, and slowly back away from them.

  11. Re:Mmmm Oceans by triptolemeus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's all about fear. Nothing else.

    Fear is kinda funny: the saver you get your live organized the more scared you get. Right now the US has come to the point where the government fears its civilians, and the whole nation fears the world. And so it behaves like a big kid, slamming the faces of the not so fortunate. Kinda really makes me sad.

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  12. Re:Thoughts From An American by Jason+Earl · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Bringing Israel into the picture is a perfect example of what I am talking about. That's racism, pure and simple. The rest of Middle East hates Israel because they are Jews. Apparently being Jewish is a sin so hideous that it justifies blowing up their children.

    Of course, the war in Iraq has nothing to do with Israel either, but it's the sort of propaganda that the leaders in these nations use to get their population to focus on the "Dirty Jews" and the "Yankee Devils" instead of on the problems created by their own government.

  13. Hahaha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Those so-called "Peace" protestors are the largest group of _hypocrites_ I've ever seen. They cry "Peace" and "No war" and yet are causing violence themselves - how "peacefull" of them. They are being just as destructive as the war is. It proves that the protestors aren't really for peace but are using the war as an excuse to act as like those who they are protesting against.

    Also, _none_ of these protesters were _ever_ around when Clinton was bombing places. If Clinton was still President and was doing this war not one peace protestor on the planet would be found. Again peace protestors are being hypocrites!

    I say this, if any so-called hypocrite "Peace" (hahaha) protestor gets to the point where they threaten or otherwise near are to hurting my family I _will_ defend myself and my family. Period.

    As for the cowardly surrender people of France - you people are hilarious - and pathetic. Ha, yeah that hurts destroying a McDonalds restaurant in France - destroyed by so-called "Peace"full non-violent non-destructive people. Again hypocrites in action doing just as much damage as this war. This war is just an excuse for them to express something they always felt - hatred against the US.

    Keep up the hypocrism so-called "Peace" people! You're just providing fodder for my and others amusement when we can point out your false beliefs.

  14. Re:Island Life by pi_rules · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I grew up in a world where the U.S. was the good guys, and we were happy to be good guys too. Now this war has proven that America is a bully. Funny how sometimes the bullied kids fight back. Does the word 'Columbine' mean anything to you?

    Bully my ass. I'm sorry, but this is just nuts. That son of a bitch launched four missles into Kuwait today that he's been forbidden to own by the UN for 12 years. You think he found them under his couch and decided to lob them over just to see if they went "boom"? You think he "forgot" they were there? He knew he had them, and they should have been destroyed. He was ordered to do so diplomatically by the UN 12 years ago. He didn't.

    Can you really come up with a good reason as to -WHY- that's acceptable? He disobeyed UN orders. He's on his own. We disobeyed UN ordera and have now got 40 countries giving us the "OK Nod" for the operation. Nobody, aside form the USA and the Brits were willing to take a stand against him.

    You think Saddam's a nice diplomatic fellow that desrves a few more years? Fine. Go fucking live there.

  15. Re:Island Life by RobinH · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    That son of a bitch launched four missles into Kuwait today that he's been forbidden to own by the UN for 12 years.

    You must be psychic. Last I heard, it was only a rumor that they were Scud missiles, and most likely they were short range missiles that he was permitted to have. Heaven forbid that an army retaliates when you attack them.

    Can you really come up with a good reason as to -WHY- that's acceptable?

    Nope, it's not acceptable, if he has the weapons. Did he have WMD last time? Did he use them then? If he's such a threat, then why didn't he use them in 1991?

    The rest of the world needs proof that he has these weapons before we're willing to punish him. Where is the smoking gun? Is the fact that he's not co-operating considered evidence? Don't we give accused criminals the right to remain silent? Do we have any evidence that he still has WMD or has any credible links to al-Qaeda? No.

    The rest of the world is trying to follow international law. The U.S. and Britain helped create that law, but it doesn't mean they are above it. Iraq may be in breach of the law, but now the U.S. and Britain are too. How do two wrongs make a right? The U.S. and Britain validated the authority of that law by going to the U.N. to make their case, and then when it was taking too long, they broke the law by taking matters into their own hands.

    The law allows the use of force in 2 situations:
    1) When someone initiates agression against your territory or that of your allies, you may retaliate.
    2) When authorized by the U.N.

    Iraq never attacked the U.S., was never linked to terrorism, and was not a credible threat to anyone but his own people. (Perhaps a peacekeeping mission would have been appropriate?) Plus, an attack on Iraq was NOT authorized by the U.N. Therefore, even if you can somehow morally justify this war, it's still illegal. Therefore, the U.S. is a bully.

    Go fucking live there.

    Hmmm, that's an awfully rude comment. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? So, you want to drag it down to this level, eh?

    Go fucking live there? I don't have to go anywhere. I live in the sovereign nation of Canada, whose policies, just like other countries, are NOT dictated to us by the United States. The American government has no authority here. You got a problem with that? Take it up with the U.N.

    In the mean time, you, the rest of you yankee bastards, and that moron president of yours can kiss my maple syrup covered ass.

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