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Beep! Beep! You have Broken the Law.

medscaper writes "Authorities in China are using computers to spam mobile phones of law-breakers until they turn themselves in. Apparently, lots of illegal advertisements as stickers with mobile-phone numbers listed are placed around large cities and are becoming an eyesore. So, the authorities call the cell phones incessantly with recorded messages that demand the "businessmen" to turn themselves in."

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  1. Hmm... by MacFury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How well does this actually work? Wouldn't they just get a new phone number?

    1. Re:Hmm... by bubblegoose · · Score: 4, Informative

      The article discuss that. It says that they would have to pay fees to change their number, and they would lose any business from their ad.

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    2. Re:Hmm... by thynk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How well does this actually work? Wouldn't they just get a new phone number?

      From the article

      Those who prefer to change their "poisoned" number rather than face punishment incur the fees and inconvenience of switching, and also lose any business their ad might have generated.

      So changing the number comes with a pretty high price. Course, I'm "sure" after they get this message, every one goes right in and turns them selves in. I wonder how long it will take before someone figures out how to bypass this.

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  2. With my luck.. by Bush_man10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would be sitting behind one of those people in a movie theater. If they are stupid enough to get into that situation you know they are one of those people who leave their cell phones on during movies. :) Excellent idea though..

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  3. Easy to cause trouble with by gorf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if I don't like someone, all I have to do is make up a few ads with his number on and stick them up places, and the state will spam him for me?

    1. Re:Easy to cause trouble with by fatty+bimble · · Score: 4, Informative
      read the article: "The numbers are also checked manually and require the approval of a senior official before the bombardment can begin, he told the People's Daily. "

      I suppose if your enemy posted up your number all over the place *AND* you answered your phone trying to sell something, you'd get in trouble.

      BTW, if you made a few ads and posted them, people interested in the ads would spam the number in response to the ad, regardless of the state's actions

    2. Re:Easy to cause trouble with by isorox · · Score: 4, Funny

      Police Caller: I want some XXX.

      Dont we all

  4. Beep Beep. Your Credit Card has been charged... by presroi · · Score: 5, Funny

    with the current fee of US $200 Thank you for committing this crime. Your local Police Department.

  5. Unfortunately... by Theaetetus · · Score: 5, Funny
    They're using that 'text-message speak' that's become so popular here:
    "UShdTrnURslfIn,Lwbrkr"

    and no one can figure out what it means. ;)

    -T

    1. Re:Unfortunately... by anonymous+loser · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually the Chinese and Japanese languages lend themselves better to text messaging. I suspect that's why it is so much more popular in Asia, along with the fact that it's still a nightmare to send messages between providers in the US (i.e. dumbass wireless companies shooting themselves in the foot).

      The difference is that a single character typically represents an "idea" rather than a sound, although there are some cases of the latter, as well. When you can make most words in your language by combining at most 3-4 characters, it is much more efficient to express yourself in writing compared to English, whose average word length is 5 (according to my typing teacher from high school). Added on to that, Asian languages don't use a lot of the "superfluous" words you find in English like definite articles, pronouns, etc. Also, a lot more of the content is picked up by context and left "unwritten".

      So, packing all of these language "features" together means that it takes a lot less writing to express exactly the same concept. As a point of reference, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is 752 pages in English (paperback edition), and 210 pages in simplified Chinese (also paperback).

      p.s. a side note on "predictive text input"

      US cell phones have "predictive text input", Chinese and Japanese phones have this as well, and for a much longer time. It is a necessary component of entering any kind of text into a digital device in Asia, and has been constantly researched and developed basically since those languages were available on computers. If you want to try this out, and you have Windows 2000 or XP, try installing the IME for Chinese or Japanese, and playing with it.

    2. Re:Unfortunately... by Suidae · · Score: 5, Funny

      Asian languages don't use a lot of the "superfluous" words you find in English like definite articles, pronouns, etc. Also, a lot more of the content is picked up by context and left "unwritten".

      Contextual English possible. But make speaker sound Asian.

  6. Or as Ellen Feiss would say... by psoriac · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was having a conversion, on the cell phone. And it was like, beep beep beep beep! And then, like, I had broken the law. And I was like... hunh?

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  7. Turn yourself in by sssmashy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Upon answering the call, the wrongdoer hears the pre-recorded message--

    "You have broken the law by posting illegal ads. You must immediately stop this activity and go to the Hangzhou Urban Administrative Bureau for punishment. DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200."

  8. I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore by agentkhaki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So basically, rather than taking the time to track these folks down, they're just going to annoy the culprits into submission...?

    At first, I was going to say "why not just turn the phone off?"

    But phone being off -> no incoming business calls either. Turn the phone on -> be spammed by police and have your minutes wasted. Turn yourself in -> no more spam + you getting a fine + you no longer hanging stickers.

    But couldn't you just block whatever number the cops are calling from?

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  9. Article Text - the site is getting slow already by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Authorities in China are turning to technology to nab vandals--they use a computer program that spams the wrongdoers' mobile phones until they turn themselves in.

    Officials in Hangzhou, the capital of China's Zhejiang province, have developed a system which bombards mobile phones with pre-recorded voice messages, according to the official newspaper, the People's Daily.

    Businessmen who put up illegal advertisements which contain mobile numbers have become the target of the computerized phone-spammer.

    According to the report, illegal stickers have become an eyesore in recent years, with China's coastal and urbanized areas blighted with a blizzard of advertisements.

    This is because the postcard-sized stickers, which promote everything from fake identity cards to counterfeit academic certifications, are cheap to produce and offer some anonymity.

    The new system rings the mobile phone numbers of illegal advertisers at 20-second intervals, said the People's Daily.

    Upon answering the call, the wrongdoer hears the pre-recorded message--"You have broken the law by posting illegal ads. You must immediately stop this activity and go to the Hangzhou Urban Administrative Bureau for punishment."

    Those who prefer to change their "poisoned" number rather than face punishment incur the fees and inconvenience of switching, and also lose any business their ad might have generated.

    The system also dents the advertisers' bottom line as ad respondents are unlikely to get through, thanks to the mobile barrage. As the anti-sticker scheme is newly launched, results have yet to come in, said the report.

    Ordinary folks need not worry about being spammed by mistake as the phone numbers are taken from photos of illegal advertisements, said Wei Yunxiang, an official with the Hangzhou Urban Administrative Bureau.

    The numbers are also checked manually and require the approval of a senior official before the bombardment can begin, he told the People's Daily.

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  10. from the headline... by r00t_ur_b0x · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought Ellen Feiss had become a cop.

  11. Profit by agentkhaki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait, wait, wait... Couldn't you just get a 900 number associated to your phone, and post that all over town? Every time the cops call you, if they wanted to talk to you, they'd have to agree to the charge (or can they just bill you without asking - even better) ... Pure profit, at the expense of the government.

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  12. Law Enforcement in China...well, Hong Kong by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Amazing how on top of the latest trends in people abusing public places, spamming, etc. the chinese police are. Granted, they have a tradition of being viewed as repressive in the US, I was impressed with a small matter I had with a Hong Kong seller not delivering the goods and how they hauled the guy in and grilled him (not literally.) After he scampered home he sent me an email faster than the investigating detective. I get a hit and run in San Jose, CA, and the cops have better things to do... Probably explains a lot of why obvious crime efforts in Spam go unpunished.

    I'm sure the answer exists somewhere in the middle ... it just seems I was lead to believe in a different future by Adam-12 and Dragnet.

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  13. Fight SPAM with SPAM by techentin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't it obvious? Spammers annoy everybody because they can do so without cost. The police have found a way to cost them money, which may actually result in less (sticker) SPAM.

    The logical extension is to apply the concepts of open source collaboration for email SPAM. Today a shady business can pay $5000 to a spammer to send 10,000,000 emails, and they get a profit because of the 0.01% response rate. Wouldn't it be a lot more fun if they got 10,000,000 emails and 10,000,000 web hits? Then let them try to sort the wheat from the chaff.

    Stop filtering, and just hit REPLY

  14. This is the Perp. by The+Jonas · · Score: 4, Funny

    No! "Now Go Away Or I Shall Taunt You A Second Time".

  15. Wait for them to go to the theatre by chrisseaton · · Score: 4, Funny

    They won't have to turn themselves in

  16. Same here in the Netherlands by CvD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They did this about a year ago here in the Netherlands. Phones listed as stolen were sent a barrage of SMS messages, basically every couple minutes, making the phone nearly unusable (incessant beeping of arriving messages, full inbox, etc)

    In the GSM system, there is a SIM card which is linked to your phone number, subscription, etc. You put this card into your phone and use it. The phone itself has a unique identifyer as well, the IMEI number. It was these serial numbers which were used to identify stolen phones. So putting in a new SIM card won't work, because the phone will still identify itself to the network with its IMEI number.

    I never saw any report on how sucessfull this was, however. I can imagine that in a lot of cases the owner didn't even know it was stolen (if they bought it second hand)...

    Anyways, seems like a good way to harass people who use stolen phones.

    Cheers,

    Costyn.

  17. Re:This is the police by wolf- · · Score: 4, Funny

    In future generations, this approach will be termed as "UN Action".

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  18. Finally, Law Enforcement that makes Sense.... by BaCkBuRn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Back in the good ol days officers of the law had discression when it came to interpretation of the law. When I was a youngin and was caught blowing up the neighbors mailbox I wasn't made a posterchild for federal anti-blowing-up-stuff ads like today. I was repermanded by a 7 foot tall ogre with a gun and a badge. I stopped blowing up mailboxes reeeeal fast.
    China's police figured out that jail and fines arent the way to stop most crime. It's all about the psychological punishment of having your phone ring untill your brain explodes. Hopefully more law enforcement agencies will catch on to the use of psycho-enforcement. (yey I coined another buzzword)
    -bb

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  19. Similar problems in VN by dutky · · Score: 4, Interesting
    When I was in Viet Nam we saw these short strings of digits painted on almost every vertical surface in HCMC. Each number was accompanied by a very short message (one or two words in vietnamese) but no other information whatsoever. When I asked our guide about them he told me that those were 'advertisements' and that the numbers were telephone numbers. He also said that the advertisments were highly illegal (because they were eyesores) and that the police would have any number found thus posted shut off by the telephone company (government run, of course).

    While this policy didn't seem to be having a discernable effect in HCMC, we didn't see the advertisements (at least not to the same degree) in other large cities (specifically Da Nang, Hue and Hanoi).