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Microsoft To Demo 'Palladium' At WinHEC

1010011010 writes "According to Microsoft Watch, Microsoft will be demonstrating Palladium (also known as 'Next-Generation Secure Computing Base') at WinHEC in May in New Orleans. The 'trusted root' is now called the 'Nexus' by Microsoft. Developers wishing to write 'Nexus-aware' applications will apparently have to pay a licensing fee to do so. The product manager for Palladium, Mario Juarez, says, 'It's important to note that nexus-aware applications will not hinder any apps or anything else running in the regular Windows environment.' I'm sure you can all hear the word 'yet' at the end of that sentence. There's talk of phasing in Palladium, starting with Longhorn Server in 2005. I wonder how Microsoft will convince consumers that loss of control is a good thing, and how long the convincing will take. I, for one, am already planning to transition my company away from Microsoft software. Hopefully that won't get messed up by and dumb mandatory-palladium legislation from the Fritz types."

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  1. Did somebody say warez? by shogun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me be the first to point out the irony of someone called Juarez being in charge of an anti-piracy system.

    1. Re:Did somebody say warez? by BluRBD!E · · Score: 2, Funny

      Erm...actually juarez is an adaptation used by the "elite" to make fun of ignorant new commers to the warez scene. For example, say I'm "elite" and sitting in a main distribution irc channel and some newbie comes in saying "HEY GUYS! GOT ANY WAREZ!?!?!?!" I may respond with "NAH WE AINT GOT ANY JUAREZ!!!!!!" Or at least something to that effect.

  2. No one can tell you what the Nexus is by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    You have to experience it for yourself.

    Oh, and it does the opposite of setting you free.

    1. Re:No one can tell you what the Nexus is by Poeir · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I didn't say this, someone else would.

      Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

      Neo: The Nexus?

      Morpheus: Do you want to know what IT is? The Nexus is everywhere. It is all around us, even now in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

      Neo: What truth?

      Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Nexus. is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance.

      --
      Sigs are like bumper stickers.
    2. Re:No one can tell you what the Nexus is by kfx · · Score: 3, Funny
      the nexus is happiness - if happiness was like a blanket


      A very thick, very wet blanket... And uncle Bill will tuck you in with plenty of cozy cinderblocks to hold it down...
    3. Re:No one can tell you what the Nexus is by DShard · · Score: 2, Funny

      This blatent disregard of Paramounts copyrights is exactly why everyone NEEDS microsoft to fix computers from enabling us to abuse material, such as the screenplay quoted here. You obviously did not give a second thought of how that careless quoting used to illustrate your point actually dilutes the owners product (ie the screenplay, movie, soundtrack, Jean-luc action figures, your personal DVD collection, LCARS, Whoopie Goldberg, use of the term "Engage", things that have to do with space, bad scripts, and any reference to "Q" including and not limited to "Quit this listing of dribble")

      Further, I hereby copyright this and all derivitive posts, and sanction the Nexus to come and save my interests because my business model is one that disenfranchises me from my customer. My intention is to get everyone who uses my product to hate me because I use the term customer and thief interchangably. Your viewing of this material and not having nexus on your system proves that final point.

  3. How to convince people loss of control is good by speedfreak_5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I wonder how Microsoft will convince consumers that loss of control is a good thing, and how long the convincing will take."

    Tell them if they don't they'll be supporting terrorism.

    --
    Why yes I am paranoid! Thanks for asking!
    1. Re:How to convince people loss of control is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Shopkeeper: Take this computer, but beware: Windows carries a terrible curse.

      Customer: Ooooh, that's bad.

      Shopkeeper: But it comes with a free Media Player!

      Customer: That's good!

      Shopkeeper: The Media Player is also cursed.

      Customer: That's bad.

      Shopkeeper: But you get your choice of a free downloadable movie!

      Customer: That's good!

      Shopkeeper: The movies contain Digital Rights Management technology.

      Customer: [stares]

      Shopkeeper: That's bad.

      Customer: Can I go now?

  4. Another Microsoft Moment by Taliesan999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    After having bought MS Visual Studio C# .Net, not realising that the "Standard" version doesn't play with non MS databases, I can't wait for the day when my OS/Computer refuses to let me use MySQL via ODBC because the drivers aren't signed/Palladium compatiable. I'll be so happy to be secure and safe from subversive and dangerous open source technolgies.

  5. damn by lingqi · · Score: 4, Funny

    One day I will boot up WinPalidumb and a ghostly image of Whoppie Goldberg will lure me to this place of pure happiness.

    Of course, being cool as I am I will realize that it's all fake and as harsh as real life^H^Hnux is, that's where we belong...

    And I will bring back William Shatner; possibly saving (enter)price(line)?

    *ducks*

    --

    My life in the land of the rising sun.

  6. Nexus?! by C0LDFusion · · Score: 5, Funny

    And when Nexus gets to version 6, will it be physically and emotionally indistinguishable from a human being? Will we have to hire Blade Runners to keep Tyrell Corpo...I mean, Microsoft's crazed creations off earth?

    Nexus v.6: I want more life, fucker.
    Bill Gates: Sorry. Planned obsolescence is a bitch.

    --
    Only in slashdot are posts of solidarity modded at -1 Redundant, while posts of antagonism are modded as -1 Flamebait.
  7. What i want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This seems to me like pretty clear trademark dilution of the Lexus-Nexus trademark. I don't know what "Lexus-Nexus" means, but i know it's what comes to mind when someone says "Nexus-aware."

    Anyone agree or disagree on that?

  8. Re:Microsoft To Demo 'Palladium' At WinHEC?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This reminds me of the time MS decided to demo Win98... I think the conversation went something like:

    demo guy: Well, Bill. You just hook up the scanner and Windows will automatically find and install the drivers for it.

    Bill: That's great!

    demo guy: Yes. It is one of the great features of Windo- Oh, boy. That's not supposed to happen.

    *BSOD appears on a 3 story screen*

    *audience laughs*

    */me shudders after thoughts of the future run through my head*

    I can see it now...

    demo guy: You plug in your printer and WindowsPA automagically detects it and installs the printer drivers.

    Bill: That's great!

    demo guy: Yes. It is one of the great features of Win- Oh, boy. That's not supposed to happen...

    *BSOD fills 3 story screen*

    BSOD: All you data are belong to Microsoft.

    *Audience laughs*

    */me laughs becasue /me is using Gentoo Linux!*

  9. Re:Unsure by scott1853 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let me give you the rundown on the demo.

    1.) Attach scanner
    2.) Wait for BSOD
    3.) Convince everyone that's what its suppose to do now because Windows was able to detect it was an evil scanner sent to cause you enormous grief by not being WHQL certified.

  10. In the tradition offollowing with the "leader".... by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... I am arranging a group on SourceForge to bring "trusted computing" to linux!

    One of our developers has already approached RMS but apparently he mumbled something about "GNU/trusted computing" before the developer hung up the phone.

    ________
    Open source hosting @ $3 / Month - Cheap Web Site Hosting

  11. Re:Big Brother is Watching..... by vvikram · · Score: 3, Funny


    I dont have anything to hide....

    except probably your username?:)

  12. Wish this was a joke... by inkswamp · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder how Microsoft will convince consumers that loss of control is a good thing, and how long the convincing will take.

    Oh that's easy! All you have to do is convince everyone that having control over your computer just helps terrorists.

    Sigh. Now if only I were kidding.

    --
    --Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
  13. Palladium... by StriderA · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone else see this story title and immediatly think of a giant Palladium RPG session inside microsoft? Who knows, maybe it's just me. :)

    --
    "When will this FP stuff stop?" "After the great growing..." "The great growing?" "Yea, when people grow up."
  14. Those where the days... by sokkelih · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why dont you people bash Microsoft anymore? It used to be so much fun.=)

  15. Speaking of mispronounciations... by Randolpho · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... am I the only one who sees "WinHEC" and reads it as "WineHQ"?

    'Cause I really did. I was all "What? Microsoft is embracing Wine? No wh-hay!" ;-)

    --
    "Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."
    -Marilyn Manson
  16. Re:how will this protect from viruses ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've personally witnessed Computer Science Master and PHD students who should know better open up arbitrary code.

    Just today my "professor" asked me what the command was to change directories. I told her "cd", then she cocked her head and asked me if I was sure.

    It occured to me that I must be dreaming.. but I knew I wasn't.

  17. Yoink by Renraku · · Score: 2, Funny

    In a press release addressed to the world from Bill Gates... "Hello citizens of the world. I would just like to congratulate all the owners of our Palladium-enabled operating system! You won't have to worry about viruses -- they won't run on your system. You won't have to worry about those nasty games such as Anarchy Online or Doom 3, either. We are only going to allow our operating system to run our software. Some of you have asked about the exclusion of 'Minesweeper' from this version of Windows. To be blunt, Minesweeper takes so much time and effort to produce, that we've decided to sell it as a separate product. That will be another $500, per computer, per user. That covers one year worth of updates. It will also require a CD-key and server verification! Once again, I'd like to thank the U.S. Government for helping us out, and you the people for voting with your dollars. Its clear that all the software manufacturers EXCEPT for Microsoft haven't lived up to your standards, so you'll never have to deal with them again!"

    --
    Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
  18. Re:Security by ftobin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where can you go today?

    Freedom is slavery.

  19. They are the same organization. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Haven't you heard? The U.S. government is now a subsidiary of Microsoft. Or is it the other way around?

  20. "I wonder how Microsoft will convince..." by Joey7F · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I wonder how Microsoft will convince consumers that loss of control is a good thing, and how long the convincing will take. "

    Not long. A glimpse from the future...

    Microsoft Windows XP2 makes your favorite operating system even more user friendly.

    Tired of viruses, spyware, and popup ads that aren't from Microsoft? So are we, so XP2 utilizes a brand new technology called Palladium. You can now be confident that only Microsoft tested, and approved programs can run on your computer.

    Security is a good thing (TM)

    Back to the present...

    --Joey

  21. Darn! by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I darn you to WinHEC, a Fate Worse than Death!

  22. Re:BSOD Frequency by Ivan+Raikov · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you are BSODing 3 times a day, it is some or another software you are running.

    That's the problem right there, running an application, even a small one. I have found Windows to be extremely stable if you simply don't mess with it by running applications. But users insist on doing just that, poking and prodding, clicking and dragging, making demands on the OS, and then they're surprised when the thing crashes and blame Microsoft. Same thing with viruses, users running things, and clicking on things, and displaying things with executable content, busy, busy, busy subverting the function of what is otherwise a very stable operating system.

  23. MS will ace this demo. by MongooseCN · · Score: 2, Funny

    The goal of Palladium is to prevent users from running certain software on their system, and as we all know MS Operating Systems are great at preventing things from running.

    Is Palladium suppose to carry over to things off the computer? Because I know many businesses that wouldn't run if they used Windows.