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Free IPv6 Subnets Are Going Away
ar32h writes "The 6bone is going to be phased out soon.
This means all of us who have IP addresses or subnets beginning with 3ffe from tunnel brokers like Freenet6 are going to be sorry out of luck." According to the linked phaseout plan, "It is anticipated that under this phaseout plan the 6bone will cease to operate by July 1, 2006, with all 6bone prefixes fully reclaimed by the IANA," but there are a number of sub-deadlines along the way.
128 bits. Hard to belive they are running out considering how few people are running ipv6.
http://ebgp.net/ccc/
The problem is till IETF gets the next protocol going we will be without IPv4 addresses and your isp is going to sell you a nated connection.
http://ebgp.net/ccc/
ARIN is the reason there are no more IP addresses. Their polices don't allow small compaines any way to dual home and their stupidity results in lots of compaines getting far more addresses than they need. Did you need more than a /24? I know you got more because they can't dish out any less than /22 or so now.
I think that ARIN should start a policy that for any new allocation, 1/16 must be dual homeable. These addresses would be dual allocated to two ISPs at the same time and that any large ISP that needs more address space must set up agreements with other ISPs. This would force them to change from the model they use now to one with more cooperation.
Right now I need 16 address that can be routed via either NTT or Telstra but to get 16 with ARINs model, I have to pay then too much and then they give me far more addresses that I will ever use.
I've used Freenet6 and Hurricane Electric's tunnels; I must say that he.net's tunnels have had much lower latency [and have been much more reliable] than Freenet6's. That said, Freenet6 was incredibly straight-forward for a lot of users (Debian even does all the bally-hoo for you after your register, but it's nothing a simple self-made script won't accomplish) and certainly should be lauded for their simplicity.
One of the main problems with it is security. What firewall admin in their right mind would allow users to do end-to-end encryption through a firewall without being able to control the traffic?? IPV6 will NEVER take off. Besides, there's no shortage of IP addresses if IANA would get off their ass and allocate them. There are huge class A network yet to be touched and more and more businesses are just finding NAT'ing is easier and more secure anyway. Why pay ARIN for address space when you can NAT several thousand people to one or two IP addresses?
I've got a Hurricane Electric tunnel, and i'm pretty happy with it as well. i've had connections running through it for a few weeks with no disconnections. the one thing that i really like about Hurricane electric is that once your tunnel is approved, they give you a cut and pasteable set of commands to get your tunnel running with all your IP and subnet information already in it. the freenet6 setup is fairly complicated compared to he.net
Yes, but some things will be dead in the distant future, and some things are breathing their last breath now (ever checked Netcraft? BSD is dying!)
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If you happen to have at one IPv4 address, you are automatically allocated a /48 subnet on IPv6 with 6to4. For free. Good luck trying to run out of addresses (for the non-initiated, a /48 contains 2^80 addresses).
This article is unnecessarily alarming, but then again, who would bother reading an article with this headline: "6bone users have to change addresses in three years"?.
Finally! A year of moderation! Ready for 2019?
Why do they need to be on IPv6? Hell, even Slashdot won't qualify for permanent IPv6 address space. One reason is that everyone has IPv4. When there are finally some people who are on IPv6-only, then it will be time to get Slashdot and other places on IPv6 (in addition to staying on IPv4).
It's not about whether IPv6 is going away or not. Obviously it's here to stay. But unless the IPv6 folks get their heads out of the sand, it will stay ... dormant. Give me a reason to be an early (e.g. before there are IPv6-only users) deployer of IPv6. And no, I don't mean on some limited tunnel network; I mean real natively routed IPv6 with my very own IPv6 address space (there's plenty of it to go around now in case you haven't noticed, although it sure seems a lot of people haven't).
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
I mean, I understood why IPv4 addresses cost so damned much - there was a really limited supply. (Having taken econ in high school and college, I'd like to think I understand the basics of supply and demand.)
I thought the point of ipv6 was that there was so huge a supply that it really didn't matter. So - then - WHY do they charge so much for blocks? $2500/year is a lot! Yeah, I know, on a PER ADDRESS basis it is nil, but still!
Anyone have an answer?
Or is it "because they can?"
quis custodiet ipsos custodes - Juvenal