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Knoppix 3.2 Available
TheCrimsonUnbeliever writes "The latest version of Knoppix (bootable Linux distribution on CD) is out -
New features include: KDE 3.1.1 - XFree86 4.3 - Evolution 1.2.1 - OpenOffice
1.0.2 - KOffice 1.2.1 - The ability to
create a home directory on a memory stick or similar - More information is
available at the KNOPPIX
English homepage." If you're getting started with Knoppix (and speak English), you should also check out knoppix.net for the excellent forums hosted there.
I am a big fan of Knoppix, "Linux on a CD" is a great idea. It's also a great tool to have for diagnostics when you can't load the regular O/S. I can't wait to try this new edition.
Knoppix is just the thing that I've been looking for to convert friends and family to Linux - worked with several people.
Does anyone know if this latest version still has the odd bug where XP systems seem to boot incorrectly? This has been the major obstacle to getting it accepted at school - still worries about it affecting the computers.
It's similar to having all your my documents, desktop etc in one folder. This folder happens to reside on a memory stick instead of C:\documents and settings\yournamehere.
Or something like that. Feel free to flame & berate me at will.
I will now redundantly add my name to the end of my post. You know, in case you forgot me or something.
On linux /home/[you] is where all of your settings are saved (for you logged in as [you])
In many systems it is the only area that is writeable for you as a normal user (not running in admin mode)
For KNOPPIX - this means that all your settings will be carried around with you - But not all of your hardware condiguration - So you will be booting into 'your' desktop everywhere you go
All I need now is a supported stick
make sure you get the latest version of 3.2 and not, say for example, the one from v3.2-3-21-2003. they changed the default language from german back to english...
-- Kircle
This is just another testimonial for Knoppix. Quite apart from all the other nice things people are saying about it, when I plug in my NEX IIe MP3 player, Knoppix recognizes it straightaway and places a link to its filesystem on the desktop!
Reality is defined by the maddest person in the room
To claify, say you want file winfix. It's not included on the Knoppix distro, so you make a USB memory stick with you home directory. You'd put winfix on that stick, and it'd register at boottime, and when it was fully loaded, your winfix file from the stick would be in /home/$yourname/, easily accessable. It's because 1. you can't write to a CD-R (duh) and 2. any files you create would be stored on a ramdrive, unless you acessed the hard drive, in which case they would be stored locally on that one box. Storing files on a USB memory stick allows you to keep all your knoppix tools and stuff togather. I hope this helps to clear things up.
Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
It's the Linux equivalent of that folder PLUS the whole HKEY_CURRENT_USER section of registry. By having the /home directory in read-write media while the rest of the system is on read-only media, it functions basically no differently than a really-locked-down system.
Pretty cool really.
Got it, burned it, loved it. Easiest way to install Debian on x86. They put alot of thought in it. One lesser known feature is that it detects wlans and automatically configures the cards to access it. (provided that there is no WEP installed) so it works great at Starbucks....Latte and linux!
~corporate tool, but employed~
couldn't be easier, CTRL-ALT-F1 to get the root console and knx-hdinstall to run the installer, setup the disk with cfdisk and then it copies away, 4 config questions, done.
~corporate tool, but employed~
Joe Barr wrote a good piece about this; I'm still burning my Knoppix 3.2, but I can testify that what he wrote here is a good guide for the previous versions and I'm guessing will be applicable to the new one.
:))
... However, I am optimistic that this is no longer a problem with the new one :) (And my German is good enough that I could get through the German screens, so it *did work* it was just ... worrisome :)). And that was a glitch -- I forget which ISO had the German jumping, but I downloaded another one afterward (the next rev) and it worked fine.
:)
(Upshot: there's a script called something like "knxhdinstall" which leads you through formatting hard drive etc, then transfers the Knoppix base OS and included apps. Previous Linux experience strongly recommended, but it's certainly easier than going in with zero experience with, say, regular Debian
I have used Knoppix as an installer for several machines; that's one reason I keep extra desktops around, for playing with different distros as we asymptotically approach The (mythical) Perfect OS.
It works well, but there are some glitches: with some versions of Knoppix, the hard-drive install method seems to jump between English version and German version, doesn't matter that I had the EN iso, doesn't matter that the system seemed otherwise localized to English
As a perpetual fumbler, this is the only way I have gotten Debian working well, and it was quick n' easy. Knopper deserves the computing version of the Nobel for this
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Having run Knoppix on the same machine as Windows, I sincerely doubt that Knoppix actually runs faster than Windows (unless you are running in console mode, and it's hardly fair to compare that to any windowing environment). The sheer amount of swapping required in Knoppix is astounding, unless your system has 1gb+ of memory. And that's assuming a swap partition on your disk--something Knoppix doesn't require. Pulling everything from the cdrom (and then decompressing it) is an agonizingly slow process.
Yikes. That's really confusing. To define stuff: 1. Ramdrive-a virtual memory drive created in RAM /home/$yourname/ -It's where you store your stuff in unix/linux
2.
3. USB memory stick-something like one of these
4. CD-R: CD-recordable- it's write only, meaning you can only change it once by burning something to it. Compared to the CD-RW, which is a CD-rewritable, which can be written more than once.
6. Boottime-when the computer starts up.
Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
Yes, Knoppix will run without messing with your hard drive. You stick it in the cd-rom drive, it creates any directories that have to be writable into ram, and you can work on the computer without use of the hard drive. (This is why it is so well loved by people who continuiously have to fix computers.)
I do security
It won't write to your harddrive at all, but you'll be able to make your windows harddrives readable through the mount command (the software itself might even do this for you, but I don't know). Also, if your looking for a good linux-on-a-disk distro check out gentoo's live disk at www.gentoo.org. If your system's up to snuff you can even play the linux version of Unreal Tournament 2003 demo right off the disk! You'll need an nvidia card though :(. Still, check it out.
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For those who haven't tried the KnoppixKDE edition, it's great. Last I heard, the developer of this Knoppix remaster was working on a new version. Does anyone know if it is nearing completion?
KnoppixKDE doesn't have all the software that the full Knoppix distro has, but I generally find it to be a little more comfortable and much more unified.
The only thing that was missing (I think) in the last version was Scribus. Scribus is a QT app that comes with Knoppix that looks like it may eventually be a good alternative to Pagemaker and perhaps QuarkExpress or InDesign. It's got a ways to go, but it's already quite useable for simple layout.
-Peter
. Penguins Surely Ca
Try with Timo's rescue cd. It is based on Debian. and you can configure it to include the packages that you need. I recomend it.
http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
Troll? Wtf!
Knoppix 3.2 was released 1 week ago, unveiled at cebit, and put up for download at the start of last week. I'm also glad I got it efore the crowd started moving.
I'm currently downloading from Purdue @ ~50KBps. Remember that wget is your friend, don't iso images download with your browser if you can't resume.
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
Congrats, you made a simple idea about as complex as it can get.
/home is the heirarchy, as described in the filesystem heirarchy standard, where user user home directories are stored.
I think we need yet more clairification,
Ramdrive: a virtual filing system created entirely in volatile storage.
$HOME:
USB memory stick: non-volatile removable storage using the universal serial bus interface.
CD-R: Write Once, Read Multiple removable media, usually disc shaped.
Boottime: shot for Bootstrap, The period immediately after the POST process, where the operating system is laucnhed.
Yep. That's the one you want. The 21st March -EN version had German as the default language!
Reality is defined by the maddest person in the room
One thing that really surprised me was how fast Knoppix runs. Compared to the other distros I've had on my laptop (Redhat and Mandrake), Knoppix screams. The others were noticeably slower than Windows, while Knoppix is at least on par, maybe faster. Of course it's a little slow loading applications from a CD, but otherwise it's a screamer.
The boot speed is incredible, especially considering all the hardware detection it's doing. I'm up and running in about 30 seconds. Win2k takes at least 3-4 minutes, every time.
I've had little experience with Debian. People say it's faster, and now I see they're not kidding.
Full changelog at ftp://ftp.webtrek.com/pub/mirrors/knoppix/KNOPPIX
The best Sysadmin boot disk IMO is Toms RTBT. I use the enchilada cdrom iso myself. Very tight and no compatibility problems ever.
Granted, it's not quite the same league as using Knoppix as a Debian installer, but you can use Knoppix to install Gentoo Linux as well, so you can actually use your PC while compiling stuff, instead of having it useless for a couple of days. Pretty sweet, I must say.
See here for details.
The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet.
--Aristotle
Morphix is not quite ready for primetime, however. I'm typing this from a Morphix boot, after having spent all day remastering it twice to fix the broken autofs config, since it turns out that the HeavyGUI module overwrites /sbin (and just about everything else), rendering the work I did on the base module meaningless. Grr....
For what it has completed so far, though, it rocks, and I will be using it a lot whenever I have to use somebody else's PC at work. (Which is what I'm doing right now.)
Many use Nero with no problems... many however do have problems.
The Knoppix developers have some documentation on how to burn Knoppix CDs with Nero.
Allolex
NONE - Yes, thats right. KNOPPIX does not need any hard drive space.
Read some of the earlier posts about why people use Knoppix - Trial of Linux, PC Support, Your personal interface wherever you go.
The weathers here - Wish you were beautiful
Okay, well, I've downloaded the latest Knoppix ISO and am running Overnet, so here's the eDonkey link (you would be able to download from me if you have Overnet or the hybrid client):
8 73 280|931571d31ff327cc95f850173ec15194|/
ed2k://|file|KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-24-EN.iso|731
(sorry, slash won't let me make a valid clickable link; and make sure you get the spaces out that slash puts in)
Cheers,
Costyn.
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