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NARA Goes Online

TeachingMachines writes "NARA, the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration, has gone online. NARA's self-described mission is 'to ensure ready access to the essential evidence that documents the rights of American citizens, the actions of Federal officials, and the national experience.' A very relevant site for the times, with transcripts and images of the most politically important documents of the United States. Included are the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights. Check out the list of available documents. The site is pretty large, with some incredible exhibits, and even an image of the original Magna Carta. Definitely worth a look."

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  1. oh great... by tadheckaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that its online, we get to nuke it back off? You people are just too easily amused.
    *checks out the website thats growing slower*

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  2. Fantastic! by 955301 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Folks, this is the answer to our prayers! Once the masses can get to these documents via the web, they'll actually read about the rights they have and discover that they're being taken for a ride by any number of special interest groups, politicians, media conglomerates, Attorney Generals *cough*, little ole' ladies, etc.

    Time for us to just sit back and enjoy the ride. Any moment now, the US population is going to wake up.

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    1. Re:Fantastic! by KDan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They have been able to get to those documents in public libraries for a while. Access is not enough, they also have to 1) know they exist, and 2) give a damn.

      Anyway, It's a shame they're not posting up all the declassified US govt documents that are coming out and linking Cheney and Rumsfeld to all sorts of evil shit... Now that would be worth having online on a reputable site, so that we don't have to go by the word of journalists anymore, but can see for ourselves all the evil shit that has been going on...

      Daniel

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    2. Re:Fantastic! by skillet-thief · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The fact that the documents in line only go up to the 1950's is a sign.

      But no! Hang on! The sixties are coming soon!

      When the 60's doc get on line, that's when the revolution is going to happen!

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    3. Re:Fantastic! by schmink182 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Anyone that claims to have gotten out of high school without learning these concepts and our rights as US citizens must've been the most complete fucking moron on the planet

      It is just as easy to sit through an American Government class without learning anything as it is to sit through Algebra or English and not learn anything. The only precondition is that you have to not care, which is easily met.

      ...and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

      Agreed.

  3. But who watches the watchers? by Spazholio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    According to the blurb, the mission of this is:

    to ensure ready access to the essential evidence that documents the rights of American citizens, the actions of Federal officials, and the national experience. (bold mine)

    Last I checked, the archive is run by the government (www.archives.gov), so how upfront are they going to be about the "actions of the Federal officials"? This seems like a good idea, but it could easily become little more than a "rah-rah-look-at-how-great-we-are" propaganda machine. I truly hope not, because it seems like a great idea.

    1. Re:But who watches the watchers? by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Considering the choices they have made from the National Archives so far, they are pretty much showing our history warts and all. The Dred Scott decision is there, as is the Censure of Joe McCarthy and Pres. Teddy Roosevelt's Corrolary to the Monroe Doctrine. I didn't peruse the site at length, but those certainly don't fall into the "rah rah look at how great we are" category.

      I look forward to seeing transcripts from the Nixon tapes there in the future. And transcripts from the Iran-Contra hearings. And so on. And so on.

      This is a good start. At long last I can say that the Feds got something right here.

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  4. Yes, it's worth making these documents available by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    after all, it's a historical archive of rights
    we used to have.

    It'll certainly be useful when kids start asking these questions:

    "Daddy, is it true you used to have the right to privacy?"

    "Daddy, is it true you used to have the right to see the evidence against you and defend against it?"

  5. Magna Carta by Talking+Goat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember seeingone of the original copies of the Magna Carta when I was in the 2nd grade, while on a field trip. And now I can look at the original, online... I still like going to the museum best.

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  6. NARA goes online by corporate+zombie · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know about anyone else but I've had them bookmarked for over a year. It's not like they just woke up and smelled the internet.

    -CZ

  7. until by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    to ensure ready access to the essential evidence that documents the rights of American citizens

    until it was /.`ed

  8. Excellent site by esconsult1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    For those of us who were not born here and are behind a little bit on why we are really here.

    We leave our country and move to the United States because of the nebelous thing called "Freedom". Having all the relevant documents in one spot that can be studied is a fine thing.

    For you who were born here, perhaps the Gettysburg address has lost its thrill, but for me, when I heard it on a recent "Civil War" showing on PBS, my hair stood on end and a shiver ran down my spine.

    Especially these days, readers should re-acquaint themselves with the constitution, the bill of rights, and some of the famous speeches of past leaders. It takes a little digging to find what you need on the new site, but it's all there.

    Maybe i'm a little off topic, but just thinking about what this adopted country that I love so much stands for, and the fight that we on the home front are doing to make sure that our freedoms and rights remain intact in the face of so many obstacles -- makes it all worthwhile.

    1. Re:Excellent site by dalamcd · · Score: 2, Insightful
      For you who were born here, perhaps the Gettysburg address has lost its thrill...

      Lost its thrill? If you asked a random person on the street about the Gettysburg address they'd likely give you a blank look. If you then said, "You know, fourscore--" they would finish "and seven years ago!" and maybe give a you a great big sloppy grin, but 99 out of a hundred wouldn't be able to tell you anything beyond "our forefathers".

      dalamcd

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  9. Voting Records of Reps by Speare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe this exists somewhere I've not found. I'd like to see a nice searchable voting record for Representatives, which is indexed against Presidential Vetos and Supreme Court rulings. If a bill was originally drafted by a non-legislator, I'd like to see that, too. Then on top of that, summarize certain interesting tallies.

    Rep. Harry Careless (X-SS) has sponsored 2 and voted in favor of 18 bills, subsequently Vetoed or Struck.

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    1. Re:Voting Records of Reps by vtechpilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are on to something very important here, almost nobody know how their elected officials voted on past bills, and fewer still know how they intend to vote on upcomming bills. Personally I would like to create a service (for free hopefully) that would allow people to sign up for email based updates about their representatives. When they sign up, their email address is associated with thier officials. Then whenever a vote occurs, an email is sent out with a summary of the bill, and how their representatives voted. Hopefully the idea is that people would be better informed as to wether or not a given official is really representing their interests, and perhaps question whether or not they want to re-elect that person. Hmm, maybe I can get a grant from the government to do this....

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    2. Re:Voting Records of Reps by mdxi · · Score: 4, Informative

      While it doesn't have the depth of analysis you desire, the raw information you want (adn much more) is available both in paper form and online at thomas.loc.gov, which is pretty much a one-stop shop for any sort of legislative information. You can even read complete transcripts of that fantastically exciting periodical "The Congressional Record".

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  10. Good Site but It's Sad by sepluv · · Score: 5, Interesting
    First I would say this site is a very good idea. I do not think people should judge it as a "propoganda machine" yet. It certainly does not look that way to me. It uses some bad HTML and does not validate (even the homepage has invalid HTML) but it is not bad (and /. is probably worse). I have not looked at it all but it seems very comprehensive and interesting from the perspective of a non-USAn.

    I am not in the US but I must say that I think the US Constitution is very well written and a great model for any nation (even if I may not totally disagree with small parts). I just read the Constitution and Bill of Rights and it it is well-written, timeless (i.e.: still applicable) and looks like the authors really cared about democracy and wanted to start a true democratic republic where the people had the power (and were not controlled by a government but had ccontrol over a truly democratic congress).

    However, the more I read of the Constitution, the more it seems that the modern governments of the USA try to break every rule (just go through them) it sets (to the extent that I believe many countries are far more democratic). Something I did not know that is interesting is that it seems to implie that the USA government is not allowed to have a permenent army but when attacked the citizens may form one for a short period (hence the right to bear arms, I guess). Throughout it really does put the citizens control, but, I guess, it did not work...

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    1. Re:Good Site but It's Sad by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's easy to lodge claims against the U.S. government when you don't actually cite an instance of the government breaking "every rule."

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  11. loc.gov by Anderlan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Has the US Code, the above important documents, and thomas.loc.gov has current and past legislation; all this was up in 94.
    What's new here?

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  12. Re:Solaris? by SiMac · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope you used a scan you can't detect...It's never good to nmap the government.

  13. it doesn't matter by zogger · · Score: 2, Interesting

    --those documents have no relevance to reality anymore. The executive, judicial and legislative branches ignore them, they are almost completely corrupt and compromised now, the cops and military just take and follow orders, any orders. We have a theoretical constitutionally based representative republic, in reality, we have a totalitarian technofuedalistic autoaucracy that is a blend of socialism and corporatism, that runs on crimes, bribery, blackmail, state organized "terror" and massive bureaucratic malfeasance and indifference.

    There are so many examples it's a waste of time to list them. We have millions of people who already can read, they are fully aware of the concepts contained,they even go so far as to get arested to challenge laws, and it's a complete dismal failure for the most part. We don't have the critical mass numbers of those sorts of people. When the "fix is in" to the extent it is now,and with the levels of apathy we have and the obvious demonization efforts and mass psyops being used, there's nothing short of using number 4 in the list of "boxes" we have to effect any meaningful change. I'm sure you know which that "box" is, the list that starts with "the soapbox".

    I am cynical and pessimistic of this nation changing to anything but "more" big brotherism. If there was even a 10% drop in the amount of money, time and effort put into entertainments like fictional TV, movies, music, sports, videogames, etc and put into honest awareness rising and activism,and if millions of people would just shun either working for "the man" or would engage in a universal massive "no" saying to illegal and unethical orders and edicts when they are given, then maybe, perhaps, but I have seen no reductions in that after watching and being a political activst for just at 4 decades now. Next year I'll hit my 4th decade exactly from when I started actually working politics and various issues as a major part of my life. In fact I'd say there's LESS activism and awareness now then back then, even with the tremendously easy ways we have to communicate and get information now. And the various so called laws passed recently, based on extremely coincidental reichstagg events timing? And the level of intrusive and manipulative technology available to governments,with any numbers of intelligent people perfectly willing to sell, maintain and profit from them, and their accumulated and planned accumulations of advanced and exotic weaponry along with just a massiveincrease in conventional weaponry they have spread out to police departments all over, and their obvious perfect willingness to use these devices and their human mercenary "assets"? Nope, I'm extremely pessimistic.

    I'm not saying I have personally given up, but I will say I am heavy into what is in essence a plan B now, just personal survival basically, and I have been for around 6 years even moreso than in the years previous to that,and have been waiting for the second shoe to drop. We are one major so called "foreign terrorist" attack away from it being all over when it comes to ANY so-called born-with personal soverign freedoms or ANY honesty in government. And that second shoe drop could come this very year in my estimation.

  14. Strange Typo by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the National Archives and Records Administration keeps the US Constitution, it's a museum, not an archive.

    With the way things are going, they may as well put all of the federal government's documents and operations online, since there will be no practical way for any alleged citizen to get into the soon-to-be-made W3S (Washington DC Special Security Sector).

    You can pick any event in American history to show the downfall starting (my favorite is Shay's Rebellion), but after the events of 1913 (Federal Reserve and income tax), 1933 (overblown socialism and anti-gun law), 1945 (atomic/nuclear bombs and OSS/CIA), the Cold War, the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, and now the War on Anything Islamic ... well, it's time to say that the Republic is long dead.

    Get over it. Adapt and survive. Buy weapons, ammunition, reloading equipment, tools, books ... I know I am. As Bruce Sterling has implied, life moves in clades, and if we need something solid and dependable around, we'll have it orbit ourselves.

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  15. Your questions show how much is already lost. by Erris · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Daddy, is it true you used to have the right to privacy?"

    First the question won't be asked because the meaning of the word privacy will have been altered beyond recognition. You child will think they have a "right to privacy" and that it's worth dying for, but they will have no clue to what this means:

    "Amendment IV
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    The "right to privacy" is a diluted positively asserted thing which can and does allow unreasonable searches without warrent specified by the much more powerful limit on government action above.

    "Daddy, is it true you used to have the right to see the evidence against you and defend against it?"

    "Amendment V

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    Your child won't know what a Grand Jury is and due process of law has already been perverted so no such thing is needed. The secret court says you are a terrorist, knowing how they know would alowy you to hurt more people off to jail you go.

    What's all this fuss over anyway? We stared at the Soviets and global destruction for 50 years without becoming a police state. China is still around. Now, becase some jackass in Afganistan manages to kill a few thousand people we panic?

    What do we think we are going to stop? Terrorists WILL get their hands on nukes, they will take out cities and nothing can be done about it anymore than Israel can keep people from pipe bombing cafes. The world will go on.

    The only thing we can assure is what kind of world that will be. We can become another slave state or we continue to offer hope to the world for a better tomorrow. If we get lazy and turn on each other not only will the terrorist have won, they will have been right.

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  16. Public docs... It's already been done. by Flabio · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm involved in a project called bluemud.org, and we already have most of these documents available. Plus on bluemud.org they're searchable by topic, keyword, and publication date.

    We have over a quarter million documents waiting to get filtered into the directory, of which about 1100 have already been processed and are available to the general public. The rest of them are being filtered as quickly as possible and for impatient people, they can be viewed by registering on the site.

  17. Re:Federal Register could use some updating by dmeranda · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is interesting that you link to the GPO website for the FR rather than the NARA site. The official record keeper and editor of the FR is NARA, wheras the GPO is just responsible for the physicial reproduction and publication. Both run websites, but I find the NARA site to be much better. Also don't forget their joint website Regulations.Gov which went online earlier this year to try to better track proposed regulations still in their comment period and keep the US public better informed.

    For those who don't know, the Federal Register is perhaps the most important function of the US National Archives, and most relevent to US citizens' day-to-day activities. I especially like the fact the that NARA FR website is updated daily with each new issue, including a very well organized table of contents. Furthermore each "publication" within the FR is available in both text and PDF format (no proprietary MS formats here!).

    Perhaps of the few things which I would like to see improved are: (1) online avilability of FR issues prior to 1998, (2) more frequent revision of the CFR, (3) easier cross reference between issues, dates, and page numbers, (4) an RSS feed of the daily table of contents, (5) FTP access to the FR, and (6) digitally signed (GPG?) issues.

    As far as the functional duties of the NARA, keeping the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and so forth are incredibly important, but usually don't affect the citizen directly...those historic documents' power really is expressed indirectly by governing what Congress can do and how the Justice department works...they are just the framework on which the bulk of the legislation and regulations hang. Please don't get me wrong, those foundational documents are what defines the US and and our freedoms, and as such are the most important documents we have. But seriously those documents are very stable and unchanging and don't require much action on the part of the NARA to maintain beyond being just a glorified museum.

    But the NARA is right at the center of the US government and has duties way more important than playing museum.

    The Federal Register is where the many thousands and thousands of highly detailed regulations, notices, presidental orders and so forth are recorded. It is the very presence of these writings in the Federal Register which makes them official and binding on the US citizens. The Federal Register is the primary means by which the government informs the country about what it expects us to do and not do. And it is the NARA which has the ultimately important responsibility of recording what's official and what's not. That's an incredibly powerful position if you think about it.