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Congress to Make PATRIOT Act Permanent
955301 writes "As if it was unexpected, the New York Times (free reg...) has an article on attempts by our Congressional Republicans to eliminate the expiration of the Patriot Act. Everyone may thank Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah for getting this 9/11 snowball rolling, and the general population for our current leadership." There's another story in the SF Chronicle.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm glad I'm Canadian.
The Partiot Act has already helped to catch many terrorists. If it is made permanent, who knows how much good it will do in the future.
This is the well being of America here, people.
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That chilling effect you feel is not your lack of trousers...
I wear pants.
Oh, but trust me...we'll get them when we challenge the amendment that makes challenging the amendment illegal...
There are no giant squids within a thousand miles of here. Either my anti-squid paperweight works or the squids have been in a good mood lately. My guess is the former.
/. If the government wants us to respect the law, it should set a better example.
Maybe they're just assuming all geeks are intelligent?
I remember when legal used to mean lawful, now it means some kind of loophole. - Leo Kessler
The Patriot Act is unconstitutional. Period!
... and things like this will only lead to the same end ...
... and if laws like this are not repealed, then other laws with similar or worse implications will slowly be approved. The people simply won't tollorate it!
... Patriot Act III: The gov't has the right to put cameras on every street corner, business, and suspected terrorist's home???
.... so if you don't report your USE tax (state taxes for purchasing items on the internet w/o paying taxes at the time of purchase), then you're going to jail for atleast 5 years since the purchase was made encrypted and, if you fils your taxes online, that was encrypted as well! Also (I don't want to protect hax0rs, but ...) if you break into a server using SSH, there is 5 years as well!!
... yet another reason the US "system" is in need of serious reform ... to prevent businesses from "funding" politicians to get these kind of crazy laws passed!
Seriously, it was another "Act" that was passed by King George all those years ago that severely limited our freedoms that caused a revolution in this country
As soon as this terrorist thing cools off a bit, this "Act" will be revisitied and decalred unconstitutional.
Any "law" that gives the government the right to spy on people will not last
I understand the need for security, but this has gone too far! What is next
Now I know this is a bit off topic, but this "Patriot Act" series has to come to a screeching halt! PA II, not yet passed, allows the US government the right to add 5 years onto a jail sentence just for using encryption when commiting a "crime"
These "patriot" acts are just another example of big business paying off politicians to get rediculous laws into place that will protect their interests (even though it may LOOK like they are protecting the people).
To the US gov't: Stop wasting time on this kind of stuff and go find bin Laden!
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Too late to be known as Bush the First, he's sure to be known as Bush the Worst.
What use is a phone call ...
... when you are unable to speak?
The Supremes just upheld a law that makes burning a cross at a gathering a crime.
not surprising since they're all black, but when did diana ross' backup singers get influence in the legislative branch?
If you mod me down the terrorists will have won
Ask Clinton... Oh wait, he was just dodging the draft.
We can say a lot about Americans. That they are stupid egomaniac boars who don't know anything besides their own country, that their education system is horrible beyond repair, that they think with their cruise missiles, ...
but we can't blame them for the current government.
It was not voted by the majority of the US voters.
It's way too early for you to say the "war on terrorism" is a total flop. So far it's driven the Taliban out of Afghanistan and taken control of Iraq. This is in only about 15 months.
...I find your lack of jingoism...disturbing...
Mr_Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your apologist's ways, Operagost. Your sad devotion to hackneyed cheerleading has not helped you conjure up Osama Bin Laden, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Iraqi hidden weapons of mass dest...
Darth Ashcroft: *choke*
Moff Cheney: Enough of this! Lapdog, release him!
Darth Ashcroft: As you wish.
*thunk*
Moff Cheney: This bickering is pointless. Lord Ashcroft will provide us with the location of all terrorist bases by the time the new PATRIOT Act is operational. We will then crush our opposition with one swift stroke.
Shrub: Yaay! Can we use the nookular weapons?
OK, so maybe it's not this bad yet, but the more we piddle around with every crooked third-world dictator, the more I'm reminded of the constant war-making in "1984". War is Peace! And we still haven't caught OBL yet...are we still trying, even?
But what does my opinion matter, I just vote here. It's not like I have any money or anything.
Sheep don't moo.
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It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
*sigh* Do we have to shoot down this stupid argument again?
Oh, all right....
I have a magic anti-tiger keychain. I know it works because I haven't seen a single tiger since I started wearing it.
/. If the government wants us to respect the law, it should set a better example.
Yeah. While Baby Bush was AWOL. Snorting up lines of coke and drunk off his ass, no doubt. Hypocrite.
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You DON'T want to know what goes through a truly messed up person's mind.
And yet, you took the time to tell us...
... the "liberation" of Iraq wasn't about oil or WMDs (did anyone ever believe this?) but to bring DEMOCRACY to Iraq so you Americans can flee your police state. Now that's clever.
Free as in mason.