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HP Calcs Live On Under PalmOS
philipsblows writes "Emulators for HP Calcs have been around for a while, but HP is actually getting behind this one, allowing ROM images to be included to support emulation of 48sx, 48gx and 49g (all separately and at the same time) on your PalmOS device. Unfortunately, it has to be a color device, but this is great news anyone who would otherwise miss out on using an HP calc. Check out Power48 here." And unlike a calculator, the software is free (and Free).
I've only got an m515, looks like this sucker will only work on a Tungsten or Clie.
Drat.
--Fesh
Kill -9 'em all, let root@localhost sort 'em out.
The 48GX and SX roms have been freely available (courtesy HP, of course) from www.hpcalc.org, and probably other enthusiast sites. It is interesting that HP is actually backing an emulator, though. Hey, where's that RPN troll when you need him???
I am a bit disappointed that it does not work on monochrome devices like the good old Palm Vx, which I'm happily using for a long while now. The original HP48 display was monochrome and would perfectly look on my Palm. Now only if those keys weren't color :)
This is cool, but it's not new. There has been a HP 48/49G emulator for Windows CE for some time now. It even runs at an acceptable speed on the newer Pocket PCs. There has also been a Psion version.
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This program emulates the hardware of the HP48SX, HP48GX, and HP49G. In order to legally (morally?) use this software, you need to have the ROMs, or develop your own equivalents. The ROMs are copyrighted by HP.
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but also with the new high definition screens (320x320 or higher) so people who have a IIIc (like myself) are SOL.
-- the cake is a lie
HP calculators still being sold, but nobody is sure for how long. There was thread discussed at hp.misc.calculators (that can be read at http://www.hpcalc.org). One thing is certain: the division responsible for R&D new HP calculators, the ACO has been closed during the merge with Compaq (http://www.hpcalc.org/goodbyeaco.php). In five years from now, HP will be recognized as a brand of so-so printers, shitty computers, not as an inovative and ingenious company as once has been. But that's the life... and Carly won't be near the mess... But that's my opinion...
PC HP calc emus:
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/pc/emulators/
Or check out all the other emu goodies at that site:
http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/
Or just search http://www.handango.com for "HP 48" for more emus for all portable computing platforms.
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The other unique feature of many of the HP calculators was the bomb proff design. The keys are tough clicky keys designed to be used by professionals for years. HP made scientific and bussiness calculators. On the HP calcs (11B ??) has as strong a following in the account world as the HP48 in the engineering/scientific world.
"dc" command on linux except that dc is only good for integers
You probably want to check the man page on that:
dc - an arbitrary precision calculator
Look for the 'k' command. Also you should be useing p not =.
'dc' is GNU software and should compile on anything with libc.
While recently looking at HP's online store, I noticed the HP-48GX was listed as a "closeout" item. It appears that once the existing inventory of HP calculators are sold, HP will be out of the calculator business. Carly sucks.
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In all, I'm highly impressed with this, though it will take a few weeks to see if I treat it like a toy or a real calc.
Cat, the other, tastier white meat.
Since reading the article isn't hard at all, you may notice that the article says;
The HP48/49 ROM images distributed with this emulator are the property of and copyrighted by Hewlett-Packard. Their inclusion in this package is for the convenience of the end-user only. If you (the end-user) are not legally permitted to use a particular ROM image you must not install that ROM image to the VFS storage mechanism.
What part of that did you fail to understand?
Everything in the world is controlled by a small, evil group to which, unfortunately, no one you know belongs.
I sent an email to HP customer service, asking what they had for RPN calcs since I wanted a scientific RPN calc, but was too cheap to pay $150 or whatever.
In addition to pointing me to low-cost retailers, the reply hinted that there were going to be new models coming.
I hope that the calculator business doesn't die. I only like RPN calculators. I have a mangled 17BII on my desk and a 12C in the drawer. I want one to replace my 12C so that if the new one grows legs, I won't care as much.
That brings another reason I like RPN, no one can use it so no one is tempted to walk off with it.
I had many HP calculators. Lved them all. Loved RPN.
Power48 is an impressive emulator... BUT:
1.- Start time is too long. Screen is too crowded and plain complicated for a PDA LCD.
2.- If you need a very good calculator use EasyCalc and you'll be happier at any resolution. http://easycalc.sourceforge.net/. Fast startup and
decent interface. Clearly not as programable nor a large library of tools, still very usable.
Now, here is the irony: HP should have been a king of the PDA arena using their experience in the calculator group... but somehow they become WinCE clone makers. Very sad. What happened?
If all you want is a good scientific/graphing calculator for your Palm, get EasyCalc. :) )
(It appears to be in English now, too.
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Check out the HP 41 emulator
There is a lot of software available here as well.
There are more HP calculator emulators for different platforms here.
Humorous signatures are over-rated.
Sure, they were popular with highschool and college kids, but people who do real work with calculators are pretty much unanimously in favour of HP's.
Not "were", but "is" (at least in Texas, unfortunately). TI has a sweetheart deal with the state: Their TI-83+ is the prerequisite calc for all schools administering the state-standardized exams (and that's basically every public school in Texas). Hundreds of thousands of dollars, per school district, flow into TI's coffers as a result.
Having been raised on HPs, I find the TI's EOS (algebraic entry system) extremely tedious to use. No intermediate answers (well, you can access the previous answer), just keep typing in numbers and parens until you're through, hit the enter key, and keep your fingers crossed you didn't make a mistake.
I shudder to think what colleges are requiring their engineering students to use (when I was in engineering school, the 41CX was a necessity to survive).
Sure, they were popular with highschool and college kids, but people who do real work with calculators are pretty much unanimously in favour of HP's. Of course, this is a small and shrinking group of people, which is why HP is out of the calc business.
No, TI is more popular with incoming people than with dinosaurs precisely because HPs used to be more popular globally, fell out of popularity, and now all the younger people are using TIs. HP lost the market themselves, not because of a bunch of people who don't "do real work with calculators".
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So did I until I started playing with custom menus (which come pretty intuitatively to HP48 users). Being able to find progs according to context makes a big difference if you've got a lot of them. Saves a lot of time spent wading through var-link listings.
I think that you can't get any better than hpcalc. Perhaps the news groups like comp.calculators.hp48 (or something like this).
But as a repository I doubt that anybody surpassed hpcalc.org.