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Opera 7.10 Released (First Opera 7.x For Linux)
joshieck writes "The much awaited (at least I know I've been waiting for it) Opera 7.10 has been released. This marks the first release of Opera 7.x for linux, and is a cause for rejoicing.
Even if it is a 'beta,' it's opera, so you know it's gonna be good. Go get it at Opera.com, or go right to the download page. From the Press Release: 'Opera Software today released Opera 7.10 for Windows and Opera 7.10 for Linux Beta with features that are not only new to Opera, but also completely new to the world of browsing. Right from the beginning, users can see the two new buttons FastForward and Rewind in the toolbar, accelerating Opera users' Web navigation. Users can also speed up researching with the completely new Notes features or view photo files with SlideShow.'"
They've added a few features since the 7.0x releases (for Windows), which is really nice, but I find that the biggest difference is the quality. They've really taken the time to polish their product a lot. Sure, some bug remain. Overall, though, I find that it's just very enjoyable to use.
Opera 7.0 has so many problems regarding display and usability I don't even know where to begin; how about the inability to change from the "in system window display" like you could with opera 6.0.
I like the fact that there are indy folks still out tehre in the browser world, but I'm not going to give opera free props just cuz they aren't MS. 7.0 has too many problems, and many of teh changes that were made from 6.0 were just plain wrong.
-rt
Great news - I sure hope Opera make some money out of their browser. years ago, it was well worth paying the license fee considering that IE4 and Netscape 4 were the competition. Now that Mozilla, Konqueror et al have gotten so good, I wonder if it's so compelling anymore.
I just installed RH9 and Mozilla 1.3, finally the fonts are beautiful, it renders fast, and tabbed browsing is heaven. I am loving life. Can someone give me some good reasons why I should use Opera over Mozilla (or at least, why i should use Opera in certain situations)? I'm generally looking for insight into the whole browser landscape.
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The web didn't exist in 1990.
If you like the product, why don't you just PAY for the thing, instead of defeating their ad banners? Really.
Isn't it time for Slashdot to get an Opera icon? It has a Mozilla icon, a Netscape icon, and even an AOL icon.
/me sulks:)
Opera happens to be my favourite browser and I want to see it's giant O at my favourite tech news site.
Is this a sigs-optional kind of place? 'Cause I am totally down with that if you know what I mean.
I like Opera, but I really can't afford to donate (or buy, whatever you want to say) for the non-ad version. When I can I probably will, but right now I can't and I see no reason why I should feel bad about modifying the version I have now. The fact that I'm using it and recommend it to almost everybody I know alone is a more valuable (although less evident and tangible) to them than my paying would be.
I'll give them money when I can.
That's great that you will give them money when you can, but we aren't talking about a donation thing here. We're talking about a product which gives you two options of use: buy it, or use the free version with ad banners. If you choose the free version and disable the ads, then you are stealing.
I haven't downloaded the product, so I haven't verified the license agreement, but I'd imagine that they have wording in there regarding disabling the ad banners.
Just because you use a freely downloadable operating system doesn't mean that you have the right to take a commercial product and disable their ad banners from within the product. If you don't like the banners, go use one of the other alternatives.
well, actually, he is saving opera money by not retrieving the ads he can't afford to buy anything from.. ;)
and besides this is slashot, where i would guess most people think it is okay to circumvent such things.
is using mozilla stealing from internet sites because it has an popup ad blocker built in? i don't think so. is using opera offline stealing? in private network? 'stealing' from kazaa by disabling their spyware and blocking ads is ok but not from opera?
some people here think that they can do whatever they want with the data they got on their computer somehow, believing that it is _THEIR_ computer and the bits on their hd should be modified as _THEY_ see fit, silly them. some might be even paranoid about what opera sends home and block it for that, believing it again is _THEIR_ system and their network connection.
opera is a nice company and their browser rocks on low end machines, but really, the pay version should have something MORE, not something LESS, than the ad-version, now getting the pay version doesn't sport much difference, the benefit being losing just a small ad, so you pay for the program to do less.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Actually, you pay so that those working on Opera get compensation, and thus increase the chances of better future versions to be released.
There are tons of rationalizations for pirating/modifying software, and half of them have good points, but it doesn't change the fact that it is wrong. You're taking someone else's work and using it in a way that they did not give you permission to.
Admittedly, I have pirated/modified software too. But I'm not so deluded as to rationalize it with technicalities.
I'm using Opera 7 with the banner ads. They don't bother me at all. Banner ads never did (Unless they're the flashy annoying type, which I don't think Opera uses. And if Opera does, then I guess they don't bother me either. =P At least I haven't noticed them).
... and Konqueror. Actually, Opera *introduced* tabbed browsing with their first public version several years ago. I didn't like it then, but for some reason I really got addicted to it when Multizilla came out.
* And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
As a web developer, I will never develop pages for Opera. Just MSIE, Mozilla/Phoenix and Netscape 4.x.
Why on earth do you feel you need to develop for specific browsers? That's just so n00b.
Other than the totally borked horror that is Netscape 4.x, modern web clients - including Opera - generally do things right as long as you do it right.
Or like valuable screen real estate occupied by a banner image (and using bandwidth to download the banners)?
Most already use bandwidth to download the crappy images and plugin data you web DUH-signers throw in the pages themselves. Also, the banner ad is only present if you don't pay - so which are you criticizing, the ad-ware version or the paid version?
(I am sure your web-pages are designed to work with a browser's bandwidth-saving "no images"-mode though - unless you're pushing double standard here.)
I thought that the internet is about freedom and free access to information.
There is no such thing as a free (gratis) lunch. The "free" in "freedom" isn't the "free as in beer" but "free as in speach". Don't mix the two.
The idea of paying for a web browser seems ludicrous to me
Why is it wrong for a company to charge for the only product they make? But hey, if you think software should be subsidized, you're free to use other programs that have a different financing model that lets you use it at someone else's expense.
Why pay for something that is clearly sub-standard?
It's not sub-standard to those of us that use it.
And why do you write web pages for Netscape 4.x (which you mentioned at the start of your trolling) which is clearly sub-standard in every possible way?
Or bombard those who wont pay with flashing advertisments (that probably track usage and habbits anyway).
Lovely unfounded "probably" there. I guess you also turn off cookies in your browser and demand that web sites you visit turn off IP logging...
I know why it is only a 3.2 MB download, portions of the code are missing!
Such as? Is it really that hard to realize that someone actually can write a smaller program that does the same as a bigger one?
This is absolutely the wrong perspective to take on web standards, because it essentially assumes that MSIE is forever. The equivalent in the OS world would be to dump POSIX in favor of Win32 because Win32 is more common (and I'm hoping that sounds as ridiculous to the rest of you as it does to me :) ).
The idea behind having decent standards-compliant-only browsers is that it's supposed to tune people in to the fact that some websites aren't doing what they should, and that they should start complaining to the site designers themselves. "Your website is broken!" ought to be pretty motivational. (Whether or not this tactic has any chance of success is another matter, but I still support it.)
(And beside from all that, being a web developer myself, I normally have this holy fanatical hatred of anything suggesting that MSIE is the One True Standard; its lack of adherence to standards that Microsoft helped develop causes me more problems than any other browser on the planet. Admittedly, Konqueror is an extremely close second, but that's mostly because of its successful attempts to emulate MSIE.)
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