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Opera 7.10 Released (First Opera 7.x For Linux)
joshieck writes "The much awaited (at least I know I've been waiting for it) Opera 7.10 has been released. This marks the first release of Opera 7.x for linux, and is a cause for rejoicing.
Even if it is a 'beta,' it's opera, so you know it's gonna be good. Go get it at Opera.com, or go right to the download page. From the Press Release: 'Opera Software today released Opera 7.10 for Windows and Opera 7.10 for Linux Beta with features that are not only new to Opera, but also completely new to the world of browsing. Right from the beginning, users can see the two new buttons FastForward and Rewind in the toolbar, accelerating Opera users' Web navigation. Users can also speed up researching with the completely new Notes features or view photo files with SlideShow.'"
Hell, NCSA Mosaic had an 'annotate' function.
'Completely new' my ass.
"Opera 7.10" was not released. "Opera 7.10 Beta 1" was released. It does mention further down in the paragraph that this is a beta, but it still gives the impression that this is a release.
This is why I go to pclinuxonline.com for my Linux news.
Chris
on Suse 8.0!
Have more testing to do however.
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Add these lines to your hosts file if you want to block Opera from downloading the Cydoor ad banners in the free version. I've also renamed /usr/share/opera/images/operabanner.png to get rid of the default image.
0.0.0.0 ins1.opera.com
0.0.0.0 ins2.opera.com
0.0.0.0 rgs1.opera.com
0.0.0.0 rgs2.opera.com
0.0.0.0 rps1.opera.com
0.0.0.0 rps2.opera.com
0.0.0.0 www.cms1.net
0.0.0.0 www.cms2.net
0.0.0.0 www.rgs1.net
0.0.0.0 www.rgs2.net
0.0.0.0 www.bns1.net
0.0.0.0 www.bns2.net
Also, Opera still doesn't display my ISP's homepage properly. Hopefully it will be fixed in the next release :-).
Why is this assumed to be Opera's fault? Have you tried encouraging your ISP to use cleaner HTML? I had a quick look; it could be stand to be Tidied.
Right from the beginning, users can see the two new buttons FastForward and Rewind in the toolbar
You mean like Safari Snapback?
...and it's fairly pretty. I've been using Mozilla for quite a long time, mainly due to cross-platform compatibility, but this is definitely going to be worth looking into.
Though I can already see a couple of things that will cause problems. I'm running triple-head xinerama and gnome/sawfish, and when maximizing Opera, it fills one screen, but thinks that it has the realestate of all three, so stuff ends up being rendered off of the viewable area. I don't know if this is an Opera problem, a Gnome problem, or a Sawfish problem, but I won't be able to do much to fix it until I get around to installing a newer version of Gnome anyway. Hopefully this'll correct at that point.
Definitely pretty though.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Because Opera is worth the money.
Or why should I settle for an ad-supported browser?
Because the ad does not report your surfing habits and is generally innocuous.
And especially since I have so many free and open source choices.
It's a free planet. If you prefer them, use them.;)
Why would I not use Phoenix, Mozilla or Konqueror?
I use the Windows version of 7.10 and it is simply amazing. The interface is extremely smooth and has loads of little touches that are simply missing from Phoenix 0.5 and Mozilla 1.4.
I'll paste in a pro-Opera 7.10 rant that I posted in elsewhere: To illustrate the customizable interface, check out this pic of my personalized Opera.
I hope that helped.;)
Is this a sigs-optional kind of place? 'Cause I am totally down with that if you know what I mean.
I agree. Websites coded to W3C standards generally render well with Opera. However, how many sites actually validate? There aren't very many (check out the source code of microsoft.com, yahoo.com, and other large sites... lots of coding errors). Until more web developers adopt the standards, I want to use a browser that doesn't choke on messy HTML and CSS.
Why is this assumed to be Opera's fault? Have you tried encouraging your ISP to use cleaner HTML? I had a quick look; it could be stand to be Tidied [sourceforge.net]. Face it, opera has loads of bugs specially with CSS. I use clean HTML (valid XHTML 1.1 strict) for my site, and opera 7 still display column incorrectly if you have text with spaces as the content of that column. That and lots more CSS bugs. I can't be bothered listing those bugs one by one. The HTML of that ISP is fine enough, if IE, Netscape can display that site properly, is it really that hard for Opera to fix their "various display" problems?
0. Mouse gestures (you know, the things that Mozilla and Phoenix ripped off from Opera) are now customizable.
Because Opera never copied anything from Mozilla? Oh, and I was using mouse gestures in Black & White before Opera had them.
I've been using Opera since 7.0 came out for windows. Though yes the occasional web page has minor compatibility issues with Opera, i will never go back to IE. The main reason that EVERYONE should switch to Opera is Mouse Gestures. A quick flick of the wrist now gives me features like back, forward, close page, new page, minimize, refresh, and more. Until you get used to it you'll never know just how much sense mouse gestures make. Pr0n browsing productivity is through the roof! Just Like netscape and Mozilla, Opera has tabbed browsing. I thought I wouldn't like that at first but it keep my desktop really organized. Will never go back to multiple windows, but Opera has the option if I wanted to. Another nifty little feature is when you start, you have the option of opening all the pages that were open when you last closed Opera. This is always handy, but especially so after your browser freezes while you had 10 pages open...annoying to go back to them one by one. No longer an issue. I've also switched to Opera's brand new mail client, M2. Not as mature as Outlook but I would still say it's nicer overall. Try it out. Factor in the Skinning feature, 3D effects on buttons, and the truely useful fast forward, fast back features, and you've got to wonder how long until either MS steals these features or Opera becomes the new standard.
Careful with the flamebait there, buddy. Mozilla and Phoenix have a hard time "ripping" anyone "off". Their users saw a feature that they liked and enough developers agreed so they wrote it. Welcome to open source. Don't be so abrasive.
So, Moz is ripping Opera off when they use mouse gestures, eventhough that's a common theme among many programs. People have been using mouse gestures for ages. But when Opera has tabbed browsing like mozilla, its just Opera being great and not ripping off. Give credit where credit is due. The Browser landscape is so filled, there's no ripping one thing off from a competitor, its all minor changes.
And you pay money because you like the product. Sure there are free alternatives, but they aren't Opera. I personally have both Opera and Phoenix on my computer, but Opera runs faster for me, so I just use Phoenix when a page won't display correctly (pretty rare for me nowadays)
I'm the guy with the unpopular opinion
It is really great. I had been using Phoenix 0.5 for a week now, but I have now fallen in love with Opera. I'm still too poor to dish out $40 for a web browser, but I would if I could. The rendering is great. Pages load very fast. I haven't run into any pages that don't look right (I haven't been to that many sites either). I could also liked that I had a greater choice of page fonts, as opposed to Phoenix (configuration issues?) The eyecandy is fascinating. Smooth effects all over, from forms (buttons, scrollbars) to toolbars and page tabs. Plus, I've got my qt settings really sweet now with transparency, great anti-aliased fonts and such, so the menus also look great. One of the things that took me by surprise was the size, only 4 megs (3986283). This was linked with qt, but nonetheless, this is pretty small for a full fledged browser with e-mail client. I haven't set any custom mouse gestures or keyboard shortcuts, but I looked at the interface, and it was pretty simple to do. I think I'm staying with Opera for a while.
Robert Bindler
A Computer Science student's views on technology.
It seems that other applications have soured your view of adware. Opera's banner ad is just that, a banner ad. No tracking of viewing habits, no pop-ups, just a banner ad like what you might see on any webpage you surf, including Slashdot. I don't think they even allow flashing ads that distract from a web-viewing experience, either.
Let's not forget that ads help fund the internet and not all are inherently evil. It's like Butt-Head once said to Beavis: "You see it's like, you need stuff that sucks to have stuff that's cool."
how about the inability to change from the "in system window display" like you could with opera 6.0.
Press ALT+P, go to WINDOWS, check "Open pages in new window".
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
Up to version 6.x, Opera's DOM support was next to non-existent, which meant Javascript and other dynamic stuff wouldn't work properly, if it all. Remember NS 4.x's CSS usability? Yeah...
With 7.x, Opera has finally fixed this wanting need. Every site I visit that uses dynamic HTML etc works very well [as long as there is no proprietary crap code. Even 7.10 has many improvements and bugfixes over 7.
Give it a go and let us know if things have changed for the better. If not, tell us which sites give you troubles.
- CD
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
Simple - upgrade to 7.10, then go to PREFERENCES -> SKINS and select your toolbar magnification scale. I've set mine to a perfectly usable 40%. Additionally, you can use more skins that may suit your needs better.
That's your main complaint solved. Let's optimise things a bit, shall we?
Turn off the navigation bar: VIEW -> NAVIGATION BAR -> OFF.
Right-click on the main toolbar and press "I" [or "Images only".]
Finally, if you've registered Opera you can do this to good effect - remove all the toolbar buttons that you don't use by right-clicking on them and selecting "REMOVE". Then click on the status bar [if it is visible] and drag it on to the main toolbar. Select VIEW -> STATUS BAR -> OFF.
Have fun.
P.S.: To get to www.cnn.com from "cnn" faster, turn off local computer searching by going to PREFERENCES -> NETWORK -> SERVER NAME COMPLETION... and un-check "Look for local network machine".
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
WAY TOO MUCH graphics for old, slow machines.
Um, you do know you can turn off most of those features via the "view" menu? View, Skin, uncheck Special effects for instance to turn off the button "animation". There are also lots of light-weight skins to choose from.
I've seen many people complain about real estate usage of Opera. F11 switches to full-screen. It even gets rid of the ads in the free version.