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Phoenix and Minotaur Get New Names
blazerw11 writes "Phoenix and Minotaur
have been officially renamed to Firebird for the browser and Thunderbird for the mail client. Interestingly, they're both named after cars I often see in my neighbors' lawns. At least these cars were pretty fast before they were put up on cinder blocks. Personally, I like the names and the browser is great. I'm writing this with one of the last Phoenix Nightlies."
You'll also notice that the Mozilla team's MacOS X browser has been renamed Camino. Cars are definatly in style for them.
These folks must not have looked very hard if they thought "Firebird" was a name with no conflicts in the open-source world. Firebird SQL is on SourceForge, a pretty obvious place to look.
Use UPX to compress phoenix.exe. I'm running one of the nightlies and I got it to go from 6.6MB to 2.7MB. It's not a lot of space, but it helps, and there's no decrease in speed.
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for in-class use you might wanna try ghostzilla. We switched to it in my high school computer programming class (a joke, I wanted to vomit when I saw the teachers code formatting.) and not a single person was ever caught using it.
It will do cool things like open inside existing windows in greyscale with images only shown on mouseover, and it will disappear when you mouse leaves its area on to come back with a flick of the wrist. If you don't need precautions that serious, it has lesser settings of paranoia.
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because there was some copyright problem with Pheonix (taken by someone else, don't remember whom though).
What your talking about though is codenames. Those are supposed to change once the product is released. Excuse me if i'm wrong, but Pheonix wasn't a code name, It was a product name.
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Phoenix was renamed to avoid potential legal problems from Phoenix BIOS.
Quit renaming all the browsers! Every time I recommend them to a friend or coworker, the name changes and they get confused. :(
You don't recommend them very much, do you?
Netscape was "re-named" to Mozilla--which, in a way, is just publicizing the name it always had.
"Gecko" has always been the Mozilla render engine.
"Phoenix" stared out as "Phoenix" as "micro-Mozilla", and we've known for, oh, six months or so that it had to be re-named.
Minotaur is almost brand'spankin' new--and every mention I've seen of it had "to be re-named to thunderbird" stamped on it.
Something similar happened with the Chimera browser too, I think.
Composer is available in Mozilla, too. Making it stand-alone is going to happen. According to the New Roadmap, the GRE/toolkit will be the basis for all the stand-alone applications such as the browser, mail client, composer, and any other application created using the GRE/toolkit (which could be anything -- as long as it adheres to the MPL). This has been in the works for a long time. I remember hearing about breaking apart the applications way back in early 2002. The GRE was created not soon after, and now we have it being employed to finally create the stand-alone applications that were once fully integrated into the Mozilla process.
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And to further prove I'm a retread, here is the page for whiny bitch windows users like me to install a choice of nightlies.
I'll go stand in the corner.
Honestly, as much as I admire the work these folks do, I have to wonder how one medium-to-high-profile open-source project can decide to use the name of another.
Mozilla's Firebird browser is not going to be confused with a relational database. Without customer confusion, there isn't a trademark problem.
--Asa
actually, AMD was naming them after breeds of horses for the most part, hence Morgan, Palomino, Mustang (which i have not heard of from AMD but i dont know everything), thoroughbred, and so on. I think thunderbird may also be horse related. I think they should just cut the crap and make the Clydesdale core since thats what all these overclockers who buy and fry the latest and greatest chip want you to think they are hung like anyhow.
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Speaking of Borland, what about the OSS fork of the Interbase database? It's named Firebird. I could see this becoming a bit of a problem. At least there wasn't any desktop-level software already called Phoenix, particularly OSS software.
We use both Firebird and Phoenix at the office. Now, we're gonna have to start calling them "Open Interbase" and "Mozilla Junior" or something.
uhm, yeah, why am I bothering again?